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View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 11 Rating
Perfect 10 7 9.33%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 12 16.00%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 20 26.67%
7 out of 10 : Good 22 29.33%
6 out of 10 : Average 9 12.00%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 4 5.33%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 1.33%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2007-12-18, 12:22   Link #61
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All that needs to happen now is that Yuji is a splitting image of Johan and the harem theme will be complete!

I get the feeling that Wilma knows Pheles in some way.

Both the problems that Yuji is going to face can be easily mitigated by following Plan A, AKA leave the city. I try not to think about it, but staying in one place is asking for trouble not just for themselves but for the people around them.

Ha! Wishful thinking over the harem theme but Pheles is a few hundred or thousand years too old for Yuji.

Better yet, instead of Pheles looking for Yuji, why not Shana and Yuji gather all the available Hougu from Friagne's old hideout and go hunt Pheles instead?
One way or another, she'll inevitably encounter those two.

Shana and Yuji, the successors to the original Engage Link.
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Old 2007-12-18, 13:47   Link #62
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Ha! Wishful thinking over the harem theme but Pheles is a few hundred or thousand years too old for Yuji.

Better yet, instead of Pheles looking for Yuji, why not Shana and Yuji gather all the available Hougu from Friagne's old hideout and go hunt Pheles instead?
One way or another, she'll inevitably encounter those two.

Shana and Yuji, the successors to the original Engage Link.
Now that would be great. I've been wanting them to go Bat Man style since the early episodes of S2. They could hole up in Friagne's place and Shanatan and the Boy Wonder Yuji could actually go and hunt out Pengu... I mean the Tomogara instead of waiting for something to happen. Either that or Kung Fu style where Shanatan and her sidekick Yujimbo go from town to town hunting out the efil existence eating bad guys and teach them morals via the way of the melon bread fist.

Oh well harem style loving with (alleged) slice of life is good too....
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Now that would be great. I've been wanting them to go Bat Man style since the early episodes of S2. They could hole up in Friagne's place and Shanatan and the Boy Wonder Yuji could actually go and hunt out Pengu... I mean the Tomogara instead of waiting for something to happen. Either that or Kung Fu style where Shanatan and her sidekick Yujimbo go from town to town hunting out the efil existence eating bad guys and teach them morals via the way of the melon bread fist.

Oh well harem style loving with (alleged) slice of life is good too....
... Yujimbo? That's the best you can come up with?

But anyway, those two are enjoying life as it is now, because they won't have it for long.
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Old 2007-12-18, 15:11   Link #64
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Ha! Wishful thinking over the harem theme but Pheles is a few hundred or thousand years too old for Yuji.

Better yet, instead of Pheles looking for Yuji, why not Shana and Yuji gather all the available Hougu from Friagne's old hideout and go hunt Pheles instead?
One way or another, she'll inevitably encounter those two.

Shana and Yuji, the successors to the original Engage Link.

Age doesn't mean much. The age difference between Pheles and Johan might be very large.

The most unlikely scenario would be if Chigusa and Kantaro told Yuji that he was actually adopted and that Pheles and Johan were his true parents though they themselve don't know of it.


Too much on the defense, I have to agree that Shana and Yuji try going on the offense for once.
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Old 2007-12-18, 15:17   Link #65
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Age doesn't mean much. The age difference between Pheles and Johan might be very large.

The most unlikely scenario would be if Chigusa and Kantaro told Yuji that he was actually adopted and that Pheles and Johan were his true parents though they themselve don't know of it.


Too much on the defense, I have to agree that Shana and Yuji try going on the offense for once.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

That unlikely scenario really cracks me up!

By the way, doesn't Shana know any other sword combat style because she seemed too much of a kendo fighter in the way she holds her sword.
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Old 2007-12-18, 16:23   Link #66
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ok i have a few preditions here, i have a feeling that Konoe is Pheles or that green hair girl in the opening is Pheles.

where is Khamsim dont tell me he only shows up for 2 secs in ep 10 and then never appears again
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Old 2007-12-18, 16:31   Link #67
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Ha! Wishful thinking over the harem theme but Pheles is a few hundred or thousand years too old for Yuji.

Better yet, instead of Pheles looking for Yuji, why not Shana and Yuji gather all the available Hougu from Friagne's old hideout and go hunt Pheles instead?
One way or another, she'll inevitably encounter those two.

Shana and Yuji, the successors to the original Engage Link.
I read somewhere that Friagne owned a mountain of Hougus, most of which had little practical use. So, unless he kept a handy index of his possessions, they'd have too much work just cataloguing his stuff.
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Old 2007-12-18, 16:34   Link #68
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I always thought Friagne kept his (mostly useless) loot in his personal hammerspace, though, which evaporated when he died, causing them all to be redistributed...
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Alright, so this episode was ok nothing special though finally there will be a conflict around next episode which I was waiting for last freaking 11 episodes! Although I admit that it was pretty funny episode as they threw some humor here and there.
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ok i have a few preditions here, i have a feeling that Konoe is Pheles or that green hair girl in the opening is Pheles.
No comment about the word "or" since I might get in trouble, but I didn't think about the possibility that Fumina Konoe is Pheles in disguise. With all this hectic stuff about continuity and straying from novel material, it's really possible.
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Old 2007-12-18, 19:34   Link #71
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No comment about the word "or" since I might get in trouble, but I didn't think about the possibility that Fumina Konoe is Pheles in disguise. With all this hectic stuff about continuity and straying from novel material, it's really possible.
Well even if something like that were going to happen, how would they explain the last scene of the last episode where we have Pheles calling out Johan? lolhecate is definitely going to come out with her identity after the pheles arc.
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Old 2007-12-18, 20:12   Link #72
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No way Konoe is Pheles in disguise. I'd like to say they're at least representing the Evil Council, since other than that they've done absolutely nothing this season besides repair their floating castle of doom and issue cryptic remarks. Which makes me wonder when they actually do anything that's in the novels, since last season's finale was anime-original, right?

But then, the Battle Butler makes me want to think they're some third-party good guys. Not sure what that could be, though. Maybe the Bone Collector?
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Its a good chance that Konoe is Hecate, that bracelet she wheres makes her "human" so that no one would be able to sense that she's actually a tomogura.
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Well even if something like that were going to happen, how would they explain the last scene of the last episode where we have Pheles calling out Johan? lolhecate is definitely going to come out with her identity after the pheles arc.
Any scene can be represented in a dream. So let's say Fumina was dreaming back then.
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If that's the case lets just say the whole show has been Yuiji's dream.
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Old 2007-12-19, 06:41   Link #76
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Its a good chance that Konoe is Hecate, that bracelet she wheres makes her "human" so that no one would be able to sense that she's actually a tomogura.
I don't think she is, especially with the wind rushing in towards the city which I think symbolises the arrival of Pheles
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I don't think she is, especially with the wind rushing in towards the city which I think symbolises the arrival of Pheles
Wind = Pheles approaching, sure, but why does that mean Konoe can't be Hecate?
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If that's the case lets just say the whole show has been Yuiji's dream.
Okay. Sure. Yuji wakes up one morning and realizes that he wasn't a torch at all - that the 9 months he spent fighting against tomogara was all just a dream - that flame hazes and the Crimson World didn't exist at all... so why is Shana sleeping next to him?
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Okay. Sure. Yuji wakes up one morning and realizes that he wasn't a torch at all - that the 9 months he spent fighting against tomogara was all just a dream - that flame hazes and the Crimson World didn't exist at all... so why is Shana sleeping next to him?
Cuz Shana is his Childhood Friend who always sleeps next to him since they where children. She also calls him "Onii-chan" since she always wished to have a big brother and Yuji was her only male friend. He and his actually much cooler and succesfull best friend, who somehow does not have any luck with women and is only there for comedic relief.
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No way Konoe is Pheles in disguise. I'd like to say they're at least representing the Evil Council, since other than that they've done absolutely nothing this season besides repair their floating castle of doom and issue cryptic remarks. Which makes me wonder when they actually do anything that's in the novels, since last season's finale was anime-original, right?
There are some episodes from the novel itself. Marjorie arc (episode 8-9) is from vol. S. The arrival of Sakai Kantaro and study session are from also the novels. I think that starting from now onwards, the story is from the novels except the part about Fumina. The season 2 ending may be aligned closer to novel storyline, but rather than an anime original, I think.
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