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Old 2007-12-31, 23:05   Link #121
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Just because it's such an awesome song, here's the karaoke subbed version

Spoiler for video:

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Old 2007-12-31, 23:18   Link #122
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is it possible to download at niconico? hehe
Yes, there's a couple of ways to do it. Here's two...
My preferred method is using a javascript called "smile DLer"
http://nicopon.jp/

Simply plop it into your browser's bookmark folder and then you can put a shortcut to it on your browser toolbar (should work with IE6+ and Firefox).

To use go to the Nico Video you want to Download (make sure it is the last video you saw, refresh otherwise). The title of the video becomes a textbox which you can copy/cut, next to the title an FLV button will appear, click on that.

Note 1: If you click before the video loads in the browser you can d/l right away but it won't load in the browser. (You can always refresh tho)

Note 2: If you wait until the video loads, make sure it completely finish loading, otherwise you have to wait and sometimes the d/l will time-out if it takes too long.

That may be a bit complicated but that's my preferred method since I can d/l the video in the same browser I'm using.

There's an easier way: Use Craving Explorer
http://www.butsu-yoku.com/

This can d/l videos off YouTube, and NicoNico automatically convert them as one of the following formats: FLV, MPEG, AVI, MP4, WAV, or MP3.

It's still in alpha but it's a good program. It does have some minor issues which annoy me, but it's simple as point and click. You will have to be able to read 動画を保存 and 音声を保存 as that is what you'll need to click to save the videos (save video / save audio respectively).

As for the UMG, I love them. The graphics have powered up a bit
All the character look so much better! Especially, I think, Battler looks awesome!
lol. I thought that girl who appeared before Eva was Battler (name unreadable) sister!
Rosa looks younger than Jessica in that UMG.

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Old 2008-01-01, 20:11   Link #123
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幻想の蝶 (Gensou no Chou)
幻耀の蝶 (Genyou no Chou).
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Old 2008-01-02, 04:40   Link #124
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I use the greasemonkey script to dl videos from niconico. www.nicovideon.jp has details (you used to be able to dl a video simply by adding a "n" after nicovideo in the url, but I think the person got tired of running it)

As for the nakanai video, it's the same good stuff. My copy should be on its way soon, and I'm also interested in hearing the other 2 songs in the CD.

ico-san has gotten much better with her drawings over the years. I find her Sean Conn... I mean Kinzou drawing to be quite attractive. And Rosa still pisses me off in the game, but if she looked as moe in the game as she did in this MAD, maybe I wouldn't have been that mad .
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Old 2008-01-02, 08:20   Link #125
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I think Sean Connery would be able to play a good Kinzou

Spoiler for Kanon:
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Old 2008-01-03, 00:43   Link #126
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Just because it's such an awesome song, here's the karaoke subbed version
wow, the pictures look so pretty... If they are ever going to release this game they should get that artist to redo the graphics.
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Old 2008-01-03, 23:41   Link #127
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A better way to convey the meaning of the song title would be saying that the butterflies glow in such a way that you'd think it's an illusion, but I couldn't think of a concise way of putting it in English.

Quote:
The Glimmering Butterflies
Vocals: Shinra Etsuko
Lyrics: Nakagawa Yusuke


As if hurrying the sound of rain
The curtains rise again
The time of suspicion comes around
With the fate of being tested

The butterflies clad in light now beckon you
The world will close the exit before long
Ah, throwing love astray

Oh, the lit determination-
Count the screams that didn’t reach you
That the storm painted over
And follow the spiral of sadness

The butterflies flickering in the light went crazed again
The door of the world opens and invites you
Ah, love is astray
Simply carve only the words left behind by distress
And let the exchanged vows and endless prayers
Ah, sleep in your chest

The butterflies clad in light summon illusions
The world breaks and hides into the night
Ah, love is invisible
Hey, return those voices echoing in the sea
Let them ride on the fleeting miracle and millions of dreams
Ah, and dance
Quote:
Genyou no Chou
Vocals: Shinra Etsuko

Amaoto sekasu you ni
Futatabi maku ga agaru
Utagai no koro wa meguri
Tamesareru sadame to

Hikari matou chou-tachi ga ima temaneku
Sekai wa yagate deguchi o tozashi
Aa ai o mayowasete

Arashi ga nuritsubushita
Todokanu himei kazoe
Kanashimi no rasen tadori
Tomosareta ketsu i yo

Hikari yureru chou-tachi wa mata kurutta
Sekai no tobira akete izanau
Aa ai mo mayowase
Urei nokosareta kotoba dake tada kizande
Kawashita chikai hatenaki inori
Aa mune ni nemurasete

Hikari matou chou-tachi ga yobu gensou
Sekai wa koware yoru e to kakushi
Aa ai ga mienai
Umi ni hibiku ano koe-tachi o nee kaeshite
Hakanaki kiseki ikuoku no yume
Aa nosete maiodore
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幻耀の蝶
歌:新良エツ子
作詞:ナカガワユウスケ
作曲:表本裕二
編曲:表本裕二


雨音 急かす様に
再び幕が上がる
疑いの頃はめぐり
試される運命と

光まとう蝶達が 今 手招く
世界はやがて 出口を閉ざし
嗚呼 愛を迷わせて

嵐が塗りつぶした
届かぬ悲鳴かぞえ
哀しみの螺旋たどり
灯された決意よ

光ゆれる蝶達は また狂った
世界の扉 開けて誘う
嗚呼 愛も迷わせ
憂い残された言葉だけ ただ刻んで
交した誓い 果て無き祈り
嗚呼 胸に眠らせて

光まとう蝶達が 呼ぶ幻想
世界は壊れ 夜へと隠し
嗚呼 愛が見えない
海に響くあの声たちを ねえ返して
儚き奇跡 幾億の夢
嗚呼 乗せて舞い踊れ
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Old 2008-01-04, 12:43   Link #128
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I just played Umineko's chinese translation version and fell in love with it. A lot of reasoning has been posted so I think we can start push teh discussion to a higher dimension: what is the central theme of Umineko? For Higurashi, the theme is for friends to trust and bond with each other, combined with overwhelming will to trigger miracle and win the game; what will be the equavalent in Umineko?

Watching some videos now... I'm gonna post my thoughts in a bit. Before that, some details I missed during the gaming:

Spoiler for questions:

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Old 2008-01-04, 13:53   Link #129
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Old 2008-01-04, 14:16   Link #130
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I just played Umineko's chinese translation version and fell in love with it.
There's a chinese ver?!?!?!?!? can you tell me the name or site for it?
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Old 2008-01-04, 14:27   Link #131
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There's a chinese ver?!?!?!?!? can you tell me the name or site for it?
http://www.acgol.cn/bbs/thread.php?fid=121
translation group forum...

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Old 2008-01-04, 15:45   Link #132
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Old 2008-01-04, 16:09   Link #133
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Spoiler:


edit:

Spoiler for another thing about Eva and her receipt:


edit 2:
Spoiler for kanon:

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Old 2008-01-04, 16:34   Link #134
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One crucial point nobody ever touched is this line of Rudolf, the night before the massacre

「…………………俺は多分。
………今夜、殺されるだろうな。」


He says he will be killed

How come?

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Old 2008-01-04, 21:19   Link #135
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One crucial point nobody ever touched is this line of Rudolf, the night before the massacre

「…………………俺は多分。
………今夜、殺されるだろうな。」


He says he will be killed

How come?

Spoiler:
For some reason I find Beatrice to be a badass version of Hanyuu

Spoiler for Rudolf:


@kgptzac: To activate the 2nd op you would of had to unlock the music box and then just click on version b
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Old 2008-01-04, 22:24   Link #136
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ok i think i gathered enough information to make up my rather arrogant theory.

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Old 2008-01-05, 05:50   Link #137
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Your theory makes sense
But
That part definitely doesn't
They, mainly Battler, insist that the chain IS a reliable way to make an enclosed space

And besides,
If I'm not mistaken, Genji supervised the construction of the mansion and until the end he said there's no secret passage.

I think that by the situation they were in the last 2 chapters, if he really knew a secret passage, he would blurt it out already. It was obvious that someone was out there killing everybody. Unless he believed he would be spared


But your theory leaves room for lots of combinations in future chapters since there are no murderers-wannabe inside the family at first arriving in the island


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Whatever,
It doesn't make any difference
It just implies that Rudolf is up to/on something
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Old 2008-01-05, 11:24   Link #138
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"For some reason I find Beatrice to be a badass version of Hanyuu"

o.o I don't think it was me who said that lol. Anyway, Battler did try to deny it was the witch's doing at the end of 1st tea party and said "you can find a way to do this trick if you go out and buy some detective novels", which I still clearly remember.

I don't know what other background information about the servants and what they knew and what they are not telling... Nanjo did suspect Genji consider himself outside of the entire affair at one point, and seeing Genji's reaction to most of the stuff, I think he and rest of the servants were withholding information...

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Old 2008-01-05, 13:26   Link #139
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"For some reason I find Beatrice to be a badass version of Hanyuu"

o.o I don't think it was me who said that lol. Anyway, Battler did try to deny it was the witch's doing at the end of 1st tea party and said "you can find a way to do this trick if you go out and buy some detective novels", which I still clearly remember.

I don't know what other background information about the servants and what they knew and what they are not telling... Nanjo did suspect Genji consider himself outside of the entire affair at one point, and seeing Genji's reaction to most of the stuff, I think he and rest of the servants were withholding information...

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My bad
I messed the quotes

I remember that part of the tea party
But Battler was mocked for giving that excuse

I'm not an expert on detective novel stuff, but on the few novels I read I never came across a case with a closed-space made with a door chain, so I cannot speculate how to defeat that "secret room"

I even considered the possibility of murder+suicide in that room
that would solve the case, the only thing left is the reason for the murder+suicide
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Old 2008-01-05, 15:32   Link #140
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Eva's body was found on the bed, and she was wearing shoes. I think it was hinting that she was killed not on bed but was standing up or something. Either she fell on the bed or the killer put her body on the bed... There was no motive, we saw Eva and Hideyoshi were love-love just before perspective left them...

I want that ice pick shooting device ;_; it must be a Doraemon item!
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