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View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 15 Rating
Perfect 10 57 54.29%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 28 26.67%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 12 11.43%
7 out of 10 : Good 7 6.67%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.95%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2008-01-24, 03:36   Link #1
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Old 2008-01-24, 03:46   Link #2
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I watched the RAW because i felt like it. I understood a little, but I'm going to rewatch it when it's fansubbed in a couple of days. I liked this episode, and I can't wait to see what happens next. (I'm blatantly trying to be vague so I don't give away any spoilers)

I'll rate it for real when I understand what they're saying, lol. XD
... It hasn't even aired yet. And it won't for another 8 hours or so.

I don't even care if this post and yours get deleted, you're posting blatantly false information.
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Old 2008-01-24, 12:33   Link #3
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... It hasn't even aired yet. And it won't for another 8 hours or so.

I don't even care if this post and yours get deleted, you're posting blatantly false information.
I don't get it, but I deleted my post. Happy now? (time difference you know)
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Old 2008-01-24, 13:37   Link #4
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I'm lost for words.

Where should I start?

Confusing, I guess, would be the first word.

The truth about Konoe Fumina is out, though I'll spoiler tag this just to be safe.

Spoiler for Konoe:


There seems to be an armour that resembles that of Silver's in Seireiden, wonder what that's all about.

I never knew Hecate can hold out her own against Shana, shooting her own fireball to counter Shana's. Though it's all anime-original, not complaining about the battle itself.

Hecate retreats after stuffing Silver back inside Yuji, Johann then temporarily takes control of Yuji's body (leading to more confusion for the viewer) so that he could convey something very important to Pheles.

(Man, Pheles is so cute when she's fawning over Johann. )

Anyway, Pheles decides to leave Yuji alone after hearing what Johann had to say, but won't reveal what it was. Before leaving, she leaves a cross-shaped Hougu for Yoshida.

With Konoe out of the way, maybe the story can get back on the novel side of things.
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Old 2008-01-24, 13:39   Link #5
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whhops, Kinny beat me to it. Aw well
edit2: not to mention that he already saw part 2. /me points a gun at Kinny. Spit out your secret
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Old 2008-01-24, 14:25   Link #6
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just to explain a few things
1.hecate=king of guze ( so very powerful)
2.falling cubes = magnesia (fecor's spell)
3.this fight is not anime original(a lot of details was changed though)
4.silver is not physically in yuji (still in bal masque), the hand was "warped" though boukun I (or II?) in the reiji maigo
just in case you don't know, fecor is that strange looking guy flying around
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Old 2008-01-24, 14:45   Link #7
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Geez, Hecate still wants Yuji's memories?! Damn, she doesn't give up on that. At least now I see Hecate's got some combat skill.

Well, it was good while it lasted nearly half the season. (Konoe)

Think the cross that Pheles gave to Yoshida might indicate a sense of forebodance over the horizon. Is it actually a Hougu?
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Old 2008-01-24, 15:40   Link #8
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This episode is a lot more to my taste! This episode for sure went to Yuji and Shana for their moment. Good from beginning to end.....best episode by far. But Yuji is super annoying now, went from somewhat strong resolve person (his resolve was still growing) to completely useless and screaming and crying before anything happens. Preview for the next episode seems like it's going to go back to the boring phase....

Looks like Pheles is starting to feel sorry for Yoshida.

And Johan comepletely kicks ass, super powerful, he couldn't even be touched. Pheles is super powerful too but completely emotionally unstable.
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Old 2008-01-24, 15:44   Link #9
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overall very satisfactory on this episode. follow the original story, although it seems too hurry. nice fighting, enough description in the story (and i think the rest mystery will be explain in next episode). drawing style is above average, generally good use of special visual effect and BGM.

the 'use' of konoe san was one of my big concern because i really don't want JC make a character just for MOE and viewer's service but no relation on the main story. in this episode, the 'twins' hecate and konoe san is interesting try, hecate try to collect memories from konoe san is some how related to S1 and i guess it may be a hint of the later story, may be an original ending of S2 just like S1 (especially the original novel has a long way to go before its end) .

battel sence is not so smooth but really appreciate on magnesia and aster (star). very exciting, and it shows hecate and fecor is not that common guys. a clap to the strom of pheles and johan too.

one of a reason i love this pieces is character's love and emotional description. in this episode, a good kiss of pheles and johan, and the description on shana, wilhelmina, kazumi and tanaka is just enough for explaining their action, although it can be better.

pheles that meet johan and shana with tears are stunning. also for yuri's wilhelmina ;p
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pheles that meet johan and shana with tears are stunning. also for yuri's wilhelmina ;p
What!? Another Margery x Wilhelmina scene again? (unless I misinterpreted or misread what you wrote)

Anyway, looking forward to this episode. Btw, what do you say about this episode in comparison to episode 13?
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DAMN IT im usually patient and wait for subs but not this one im watching the RAW i dont care if my japanese is about as good as a pile of dung. Kinny thanks for the break down and congrats on being the first.
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I wonder something .
Spoiler for episode 15:
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At the end?
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At the end?
cliffhanger ending for the win ?
yeah ...I am afraid I can see that one coming .
Then we'll have to wait another year for season 3 . ;_;
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FINALLY! We've waited so long ;___;
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FINALLY! We've waited so long ;___;
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fecor's magnesia (falling cubes) is considered to be the strongest defense spell, and himself is a guze no ou. so naturally he is extremely strong , but he looks and acts a bit wimpy.
hecate's staff = Trigon
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Damn you, Hecate i_i
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Old 2008-01-25, 10:45   Link #19
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I didn't catch what Hecate said when she aimed her staff at Yuji after absorbing Konoe.

About time she resumed her antagonist role.
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just to explain a few things
1.hecate=king of guze ( so very powerful)
2.falling cubes = magnesia (fecor's spell)
3.this fight is not anime original(a lot of details was changed though)
4.silver is not physically in yuji (still in bal masque), the hand was "warped" though boukun I (or II?) in the reiji maigo
just in case you don't know, fecor is that strange looking guy flying around
So Silver was in Bal Masque all along. But how does that explain Konoe's purpose of preventing extraction of Silver from within Yuuji then, if I'm not mistaken?

Awesome episode overall but Pheles is gone now.
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