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View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 17 Rating
Perfect 10 7 10.61%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 10 15.15%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 25 37.88%
7 out of 10 : Good 15 22.73%
6 out of 10 : Average 7 10.61%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 3.03%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2008-02-08, 11:14   Link #21
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I guess those guys in the Outlaw didn't think of using alarms or sentries to prevent ambushes like that.
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Old 2008-02-08, 11:27   Link #22
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It'll be cool if Pheles pops out of Kazumi causing guts and stuff to fly all over the place in the middle of the 2nd to last boss fight.
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Old 2008-02-08, 11:57   Link #23
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It'll be cool if Pheles pops out of Kazumi causing guts and stuff to fly all over the place in the middle of the 2nd to last boss fight.
o.0;

Nah, I don't want to see her insides flying over the battlegrounds. And I don't want Kazumi dead as well.
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Bad animation aside, not a bad episode actually.

Not a lot of action, but in terms of character backstory.

After missing for so long, Sydonay finally re-appears, leading his monstrous-looking subordinates in annihilating an Outlaw, killing all Flame Hazes and humans alike. This attack is taken straight off volume 8. That old geezer you see would be the leader of the Flame Hazes in that Outlaw.

Tanaka finally discovers his future lies with Oga-chan, and who can blame him for it after seeing her nearly getting killed in the Fuuzetsu? And so he and Satou part ways, with Satou seeking out work in one of the Outlaws, though it'll be at the risk of his own life.

Wilhelmina reveals she was nearly killed by this Sabrac guy, and wouldn't be standing now if Pheles and Johann hadn't saved her life.

Instead of the comic relief role in the past few weeks, Ike at last goes back to his role as a sagely observer, giving people the nudge they need, this time it's Tanaka receiving his help.

And to make up for being such a useless wimp, Yuji finally starts acting cool, and actually beating Shana in a duel for the first time. (Though Shana wouldn't admit it, and kicked him anyway with her usual tsundere response. xD )
Shana's back to her tsundere self? Oh, joy.

Other than that, I'm going to give benefit of the doubt that this is sort of a transition episode into another arc, and we are finally seeing everybody (except maybe Kazumi) "making a choice and fighting for it." It was evident that Yuji made his a while back, but now it seems that many of the parties involved are also choosing their paths. Best example of this is obviously Eita, who finally stands firm with what is important to him and makes the decision to escape the world he was never meant to be in.
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Old 2008-02-08, 18:16   Link #25
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I wonder how would Eita ignore the truth of the world now that he's been exposed to it. There was a possible option of exposing the truth of the Guze to Ogata in order to for both of them to avoid being eaten while frozen in a Fuzetsu.

Anyways, I think Kazumi's time to shine a bit is around the corner in regards to the crucifix.


Anyways, if anyone wants to see Yuji to open up a can of whoop-ass on the Balle Masque immediately, give 'em J.C. Staff a Hell-ya!
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Old 2008-02-08, 19:10   Link #26
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Spoiler for ep18 preview summary:


Yuuji has been pretty complicated recently...
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Old 2008-02-08, 21:20   Link #27
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It'll be cool if Pheles pops out of Kazumi causing guts and stuff to fly all over the place in the middle of the 2nd to last boss fight.
I second that. Kazumi just tends to get on my nerves a lot...
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Old 2008-02-08, 22:09   Link #28
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Kazumi is annoying and all but... the amount of hate on her is a bit extreme... O_o;;
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Old 2008-02-08, 23:35   Link #29
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Kazumi is rather honest about her own turmoil.

Kazumi's hidden message to Pheles:

So you're tell me to just simply quit?
I refuse to get ripped.
You green-haired scrawny bitch.
You're only good in giving fucked up gifts.
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Kazumi is rather honest about her own turmoil.

Kazumi's hidden message to Pheles:

So you're tell me to just simply quit?
I refuse to get ripped.
You green-haired scrawny bitch.
You're only good in giving ******* up gifts.
You don't like Pheles? yeah shes a little on the psycho side, but she's still smoking hot. Johan was one lucky bastard.

I'm gitty with anticipation for Yuji's uberness to shine. And I believe Kazumi is going to be a self-sacrificing martyr that's going to push Yuji even further to protect everyone, becoming the super hero Flame Hazes don't do.
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Old 2008-02-09, 10:37   Link #31
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I wonder how would Eita ignore the truth of the world now that he's been exposed to it. There was a possible option of exposing the truth of the Guze to Ogata in order to for both of them to avoid being eaten while frozen in a Fuzetsu.

Anyways, I think Kazumi's time to shine a bit is around the corner in regards to the crucifix.


Anyways, if anyone wants to see Yuji to open up a can of whoop-ass on the Balle Masque immediately, give 'em J.C. Staff a Hell-ya!
I believe for Tanaka, if Oga-chan is to die in a Fuuzetsu, then he would rather join her then bear the pain of living without her, or even worse, see her off as a Torch. If he is to die in a Fuuzetsu, so be it.

Once again, guys, cut Yoshida some slack will ya? It's beginning to get more "annoying" than her monologues about her inner turmoils that you're complaining about.
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Old 2008-02-09, 10:58   Link #32
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You don't like Pheles? yeah shes a little on the psycho side, but she's still smoking hot. Johan was one lucky bastard.

I'm gitty with anticipation for Yuji's uberness to shine. And I believe Kazumi is going to be a self-sacrificing martyr that's going to push Yuji even further to protect everyone, becoming the super hero Flame Hazes don't do.
It's not about me hating Pheles, homie.
She's a hot sexy woman who I wouldn't mind havin next to me.
Yet her mindset is that between a child and a trickster.
I don't know if Kazumi or Margery should spank her or breast-feed her.
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how about both? that'll make some great porn
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Old 2008-02-09, 21:07   Link #34
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you got some stuff in there....
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how about both? that'll make some great porn
Can we avoid a MILF project, please?
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Old 2008-02-10, 09:57   Link #36
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Can we avoid a MILF project, please?
Now that's a real scary thing to say.
That question is already traumatizing me today.
It's obvious that the gap between Yuji and Kazumi is as wide as the sea.
All of the world would expect Shana to say to her, "You can't beat me!"
Everyone says she's worthless and tend to pelt her with heavy bricks.
Because it looks as if Kazumi has lost to a Flame Haze midget dominatrix.
But don't count her out yet, though, personally, she's better off as a nun.
Kazumi may still have a greater role that has yet to be said and done.
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Spoiler for ep18 preview summary:


Yuuji has been pretty complicated recently...
Suddenly...he's pulling tricks out of his arse...

Next thing you know, he is going to study under Wilhelmina in the art of bondage...wait...
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But don't count her out yet, though, personally, she's better off as a nun.
LAWL!

Yes I can see it now...
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Next thing you know, he is going to study under Wilhelmina in the art of bondage...wait...
If that happens:

Yuji's memoir

Today, I met a maid, whose skills were highly paid.
She used her ribbons on me just so that she can get laid.
The maid is kinda like a crook who's read all the books.
The greatest tragedy is the fact that she still can't cook.
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Old 2008-02-10, 16:55   Link #39
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Geez, DX. Quit acting like Cena already if you're so bored.
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Well, since the Balle Masque has already tagged him with a transmitter, I wouldn't be surprised if Yuji gets too obsessed in wanting to fight them.
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