Spice and Wolf - Episode 10 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

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note: Poll is closed until the episode airs in Japan, for obvious reasons.

• Episode 10 will be broadcasted this 5th march at 1:30 AM (Japan Time Zone),
  which means this 4th march at 4:30PM (GMT 00).

[serenade_beta]

Expectations:

-Of course, an explanation of sorts for Nora.
-Something revealed about Mr. AHAHAHAHAISOUNDEVIL
-Armor selling

[Ice Climbers]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Expectations:

-Of course, an explanation of sorts for Nora.
-Something revealed about Mr. AHAHAHAHAISOUNDEVIL
-Armor selling

Third should come with a twist

[Tri-ring]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Expectations:

-Of course, an explanation of sorts for Nora.
-Something revealed about Mr. AHAHAHAHAISOUNDEVIL
-Armor selling

Spoiler for My speculation:

Well we already know that bunch of mercenaries are roaming on the new road looting anybody that passes by. So we just need to figure out why are they looting?
Lawrence said himself that at the present town, selling armor was common meaning there must be alot of mercenaries gathering to this town which leads to speculate that there would be a place to provide their service(battle field) or place that introduces an employer. Meaning mercenaries don't need to rob other people near this town. So why are the mercenaries looting?
And If my sepculation is right, what would happen to the armor and Lawrence who bought it with credit?

[deffusse]

Need to know more about her [Nora] anything anything..... ... will be fine

[Masanori Ota]

Raw is out.

[LKK]

Initial thoughts.

Spoiler for ep 10:

Things are not going well for Lawrence in regards to whatever business he's trying to conduct. Every merchant in town turned against him. He's been blackballed. His increasing frustration as he tried again and again was hard to watch. And when his frustration overflowed onto Horo, it was hurtful to watch. What I want to know though is why didn't he go after her at the end? He knew he'd done wrong. Why, oh why, didn't he go after her and apologize??

[Deathkillz]

Spoiler:

Things doesn't look good for lawrence...hell sure I didn't catch the reason why he is being rejected a deal but it's the fact that he is being rejected that even I can see...the poor dude took his anger out on poor horo aswell...someone is working in the shadows to put him out of business -___-

No mention of nora O.o

[FlareKnight]

Spoiler:

Damn this situation has gotten pretty bad. Agree that I don't have much of an idea why he has been shut down like this. Though its pretty ugly that no matter where he goes its no good. The whole getting water thrown at him was just going over the line.

Got to go back and watch the start of the episode that had some good moments. Horo once again gets Lawrence going. That girl is just great .

But damn the end was pretty rough. Lawrence is frustrated to the limit and takes it out on Horo. She's just been supportive and standing by him through this difficult period. I can understand getting that upset with things and sadly the people you care about are the first to get lashed out at. Still...poor Horo

Hopefully they find a way to overcome this.

[monir]

Originally Posted by LKK

Initial thoughts.

Spoiler for ep 10:

Things are not going well for Lawrence in regards to whatever business he's trying to conduct. Every merchant in town turned against him. He's been blackballed. His increasing frustration as he tried again and again was hard to watch. And when his frustration overflowed onto Horo, it was hurtful to watch. What I want to know though is why didn't he go after her at the end? He knew he'd done wrong. Why, oh why, didn't he go after her and apologize??

Oh my gosh! Seriously girl, I'll catch up to this series just because of this post because I want to watch episode 10 so badly.

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep10:

-Horo barked and scared away a dog while she waited for Lawrence...

-Hoh~, the Church doesn't seem to think well of the fact that Nora seems to be the only one to stay safe while walking along that road to that city...

-"Well, fairy Nora seems to be the type of girl you like" <--fair-accurate translation
Lawrence... Don't tell me... You...

Lawrence gets defensive over Horo's teasing.
What followed truly was funny.
Lawrence=Lolicon? Likes blond hair? Likes shepherds? Do tell, Lawrence!

-Crap... Lawrence's little play-around with that guy in the "Correct Scales" episode turned around and hit him hard... into debt...
And none of the people he knows would give or help him at all... And he gets more strained and stressed out, and then one of the people he was talking to made him realize that bringing Horo around was having a pretty negative effect...
And more stress and he snapped at Horo...
Oh boy...


One mention of Nora, and that was it...


Preview: Wolf and Greatest Secret Plan; a comeback?

[metronome]

whatever happens, you shouldn't lashed on someone that could actually have the "cheat code" to help you when you really do not have a way out.

but ya I know it is common that usually the one that's closest to you gets snapped first when you are frustated~~

[Tri-ring]

Spoiler for Here is the outline:

As you may remember, in episode 9 Lawrence bought armor from Latepria tradings through credit and was planning to sell those armors to Mebiryo tradings. The credit will be handled between the two traders and Lawrence planned on gainning commision transporting the goods, but it turns out that the armor market had dropped. To make things worse Latepria trading had sold the credit to Mebiryo. So Lawrence now is in debt to Mebiryo who had just lost a fortune in the Armor market and will have no mercy in stripping Lawrence.
Lawrence has two days to come up with the money or the commerce union he is inlisted will pay up the debt and send Lawrence to the mines to payup his losses. Lawrence is now walking all around town to ask for a loan but is turned down at every doorstep and is told he is unsincere having a female(Horo) tag along with him in asking for a debt.

By the way, I liked how Horo importuned Lawrence in Oiran Kotoba, the interaction was just like an Oiran cajole her guest for gifts.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Tri-ring

Spoiler for Here is the outline:

As you may remember, in episode 9 Lawrence bought armor from Latepria tradings through credit and was planning to sell those armors to Mebiryo tradings. The credit will be handled between the two traders and Lawrence planned on gainning commision transporting the goods, but it turns out that the armor market had dropped. To make things worse Latepria trading had sold the credit to Mebiryo. So Lawrence now is in debt to Mebiryo who had just lost a fortune in the Armor market and will have no mercy in stripping Lawrence.
Lawrence has two days to come up with the money or the commerce union he is inlisted will pay up the debt and send Lawrence to the mines to payup his losses. Lawrence is now walking all around town to ask for a loan but is turned down at every doorstep and is told he is insincere having a female(Horo) tag along with him in asking for a debt.

By the way, I liked how Horo importuned Lawrence in Oiran Kotoba, the interaction was just like an Oiran cajole her guest for gifts.

Spoiler:

Damn so that's what the sitaution is. Lawrence is in a worse spot than I had imagined. Had thought it was likely the armor market had some problems. Probably because armor is supposed to be a sure thing its Lawrence's luck that this would happen.

No wonder he is freaking out if it means ending up in the mines if he can't get the money together. Oh boy, Horo has her hands full (after Lawrence gets back in her good graces) in order to save the day here. Though she is more skilled getting into debt than out of it .

Not a lot of time here.

[Souten no Seigyoku]

Its possible its Chloe and company. They havent necessarily given up on the deal with the coins. You dont just give up on a ton of money like that. it can also be done to set an example (i.e. this is what happens to those that interfere with us) as a deterent to those who would meddle in their future dealings.

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep 11 preview summary:

Wolf and Greatest Secret Plan

Lawrence, who had ended up in enormous debt, tried relying on his connections as a way to earn money, but he makes no progress at all.
As the deadline for repayment gets closer, Lawrence to their lodging in a state of half-desperation when Horo brings up a certain secret plan.
It was a gamble that involved great dangers, where the absolute condition was to get Lemerio Company's agreement for funds cooperation...

Still no Nora...
Isn't Horo nice... Be grateful, L.L. (Lolicon Lawrence)


The poll is still closed?

[Vexx]

I'm already lamenting the end of this series..... so few episodes left.... (sigh).

[FlareKnight]

Had just about forgotten the series was almost over. Its just sad no matter how you look at it. Hopefully gets a second season eventually so we can return to the good times.

[Guppy]

One thing about Lawrence's snapping at Horo, though... if I'm not mistaken, he didn't intend to take her with him in the first place, because bringing a woman would have a particular meaning. Even after he explained that, though, Horo didn't take it well and insisted on coming (with some foot-stomping thrown in), to which he eventually agreed.

That doesn't excuse him dumping all his frustrations on Horo, of course, but it's a little more understandable given that she more or less forced him to include her.

[XoBr0k3nxAng3LoX]

um...one question:

what exactly did Lawrence say to Horo when he snapped that got her so upset? o.o [ i know it has something to do with her being a girl and stuff but i dont really know because i've only read the summaries and havnt watched it yet]