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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 - Episode 23 Rating
Perfect 10 234 73.35%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 67 21.00%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 9 2.82%
7 out of 10 : Good 4 1.25%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 0.63%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.31%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 2 0.63%
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Old 2008-03-21, 15:45   Link #881
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Really, though...I'm wondering how Neena can ever play into the scenario again. She's still alive, still has a Throne with her, so either her or her Throne probably might appear again to replace that vacancy Lockon left, even if she isn't as skilled or dynamic.
Wasn't Haro Haro supposed to be Lockon's replacement? He can pilot Dynames after all!
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Old 2008-03-21, 16:14   Link #882
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yeah but he doesnt have nearly as much personality and felt isnt into to robots so that would never be a good replacment.
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Old 2008-03-21, 16:56   Link #883
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only 24 hrs till next episode

i need that fix
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Old 2008-03-21, 18:40   Link #884
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Wasn't Haro Haro supposed to be Lockon's replacement? He can pilot Dynames after all!
If an A.I. is going to replace Lockon, it will be something little more adavanced than a cute bouncing (annoying) little ball. I would think it would be someone like Tiera, the "living CPU".

This reminds me, is Nena a "living CPU"? We all saw her in Veda's terminal with the hologram visuals online in ep. 17 and that is only supposed to happen when someone inside the chamber is interfacing with Veda.
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Old 2008-03-21, 18:45   Link #885
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This reminds me, is Nena a "living CPU"? We all saw her in Veda's terminal with the hologram visuals online in ep. 17 and that is only supposed to happen when someone inside the chamber is interfacing with Veda.
Nena hasn't been shown to have the same abilities as Tieira and Ribbons. Just got into the VEDA terminal, but never showed her with the glowing VEDA eyes.
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Old 2008-03-21, 19:23   Link #886
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That's a good implication, though, considering that Tieria was shocked that anyone could do that.
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Old 2008-03-21, 19:36   Link #887
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Just got into the VEDA terminal, but never showed her with the glowing VEDA eyes.
Maybe the writers wanted to add some mystery and curiosity to her character.

There is also the fact we have never seen a "manual" (keyboard) access port in Veda's terminal which supports the fact that you have to interface with Veda remotely/wirelessly. And wasn't it kinda convenient that the terminal turned off exactly when she got busted by Tiera. Plus there is the fact we have seen Tiera accessing information in Veda's terminal with his eyes closed. If he can do that, why can't she?
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Old 2008-03-21, 21:36   Link #888
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What did Ali (Zwei) do exactly to stop Virtue's GN Field ability?

He still had the GN Field afterwards, but the shots went through....I don't think the particle/compression ratio or whatever had something to do with it this time.
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Old 2008-03-21, 21:37   Link #889
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What did Ali (Zwei) do exactly to stop Virtue's GN Field ability?

He still had the GN Field afterwards, but the shots went through....I don't think the particle/compression ratio or whatever had something to do with it this time.
He cut off two of the GN field generators.
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Old 2008-03-21, 21:39   Link #890
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What did Ali (Zwei) do exactly to stop Virtue's GN Field ability?

He still had the GN Field afterwards, but the shots went through....I don't think the particle/compression ratio or whatever had something to do with it this time.
He used the Fangs. Those literally rammed into the GN Field generators and disabled it.

Although the whole sequence was more of just harassing Virtue than anything.
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Old 2008-03-21, 21:42   Link #891
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And why didn't Dynames use Trans-am against Zwei?
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Old 2008-03-21, 21:53   Link #892
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And why didn't Dynames use Trans-am against Zwei?
He used up his GN reserves on the GN-arms.
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Old 2008-03-22, 00:37   Link #893
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Surprisingly no WD in this episode thread D:

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Ah, I see ..

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Old 2008-03-22, 00:48   Link #894
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Wew.....such a great episode.....

the scene where lockon d*e was very great.....

it was very touching......

Lockon : Yo....omaera....konna sekai de manzoku ka?
Lockon : Ore wa....iyaa da na.....
*Explosion*
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Old 2008-03-22, 07:33   Link #895
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Well I'm back from exile island, and now that this thread is fading I won't go over much more that hasn't been expressed, but I thought I had to re-acknowledge Ali-Al Sarshes' sickdickulous piloting this episode...I know some have blamed Darryl's intrusion for Lockon's lost, and they have fiery-hearts to say Lockon was kicking his a$$, but I just don't see it...Amazing level-up in skills from Lockon (Damn revenge and motivation FTW), but Ali-Al was NEVER at an over-bearing disadvantage in this fight...Even with Zwei's arm cut he was still beyond par...Lockon was really giving' it dude, but did you see Ali circle that moon-size crater, decrease his acceleration, pause with the instant shield block of Lockon's shot, re-accelerate, then unsheathe his huge Zangpaktou, then attack?? Then when he dodged ALL of Dynames' crotch-rockets (Then while they cracked another moon-crater); he then showed his bada$$ Zwei silhouette before dipping off again...I'm just gonna side-step freaking-out on how he was leisurely FLYING BACKWARDS effortlessly zagging Lockon's heated rapid-barrage...Man Ali was sick this episode...He's moved into a class I'm not prepared to mention right now with some of that $hit...

Lockon's death was brilliant as he has to be the first G-pilot I've ever seen to plug in a Nintendo Power-Gun and take down a Gundam...Obviously those with shonen//mecha membership cards know there's no way Ali's dead, but damn, even if he were, he still popped thru that Brolly-spray to frag the GN-ARMS once and for good...

Anyways tuff episode, one of the best ever...10 outta 10...


My final predictions for Ali may involve Ms. Wang picking his tattered body up and giving him an exploding neck-collar as gift to go with perhaps a new suit aswell...She wants to change the world at all costs ya'll...

Final Fight of the season has to be GN-Graham verses Setsuna Trans-Am..Then maybe they Team-up to take on whatever the hell Alejandro is piloting...Mizushima make me look good for once^^...

Til then...

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Old 2008-03-23, 14:34   Link #896
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could i get a link for episode 23 for torrent?
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Old 2008-03-25, 15:36   Link #897
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Old 2008-03-26, 08:13   Link #898
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I'd say no, because of the reasons stated somewhere above:
She was straying through the ship because she was bored, why should she do something, she can do anytime instead of using the once in a lifetime chance to look around?
Except Tieria asks her "how could you" and she says "the same way as always." That was a pretty big red flag that Neena is special in some way we don't know. It's also been very heavily implied that it was Neena who altered the data in the Ptolemy that Tieria couldn't figure out what it was, and it's not a severe extension to connect the dots that that piece of data was what Ribbons and Alejandro needed, the location of Veda.
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Old 2008-03-26, 15:35   Link #899
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It's not "the same as always", it's "the normal way". Which could also refer to how she could enter the room, with the obvious answer "through the door".
Except that Veda was active in her presence, which means she has to have turned it on. So its not refering to the door.

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The point is, that it doesn't make sense! It was never planned, that Nena and the rest of the Trinitys entered the Ptolemaios, let alone that Nena can roam freely through the ship (they even asked for permission to do so, and Nena wanted Setsuna to come with her!). And even if she is able to access Veda, there is no need to do so on the Ptolemaios, since we could see, that they can access Veda from anywhere they like.
They can access Veda from anywhere they like, but only the Ptol and Tieria have access to the highest levels of data. Libonz had to hack the system from Veda's core.
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