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But what happened was that while he was running Freedom was trading shots with Calamity. Freedom was in the air firing all guns at Calamity who was on the ground firing back into the air. So most defintely it was simply the resulting explosion from the two of them that killed Shin's family. But I find it hard to place the blame soley on Calamity since he was shooting in the sky and not on the ground. I mean how does a guy whose shooting at something in the air fire a stray shot into the ground? |
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2008-03-23, 11:38 | Link #1242 | |
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I did state my reasons, and I'd also agree with you, if there's a 3rd instalment, it CAN be a good one, HOWEVER... THere needs to be switch of focus to new characters. And judging by how the popular Kira and Lacus are, their sheer popularity will mean they will be brought back for yet. another. lame. series. |
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2008-03-23, 12:20 | Link #1243 | |
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2008-03-23, 13:24 | Link #1244 | |
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2008-03-23, 14:00 | Link #1245 |
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er....The Destiny Gundam wasn't in episode 1.......Anyhow, I would love to see the love between Lacus and Kira grow! Kira's freedom did actually kill Shinn's family, or more or so likely to. Shinn had no way of knowing who killed his family, since he was not looking when the incident occured.
On a sidenote, even with the reoccuring cast, it might be able to do well. I knew/thought Destiny was going to be crap, since Seed's ending gave almost no possiblity of another series. Unlike Destiny, I think another sequel might be easier to make for Destiny rather than seed with lacus and kira in plants and all. The ending of Destiny surprised me, like the end end....Why did rey die? Kira and Athrun were going to pick him up. Didnt he say he wanted a future? *Rey heads off with Kira and Athrun* Talia:Rey come here... Rey:But...but...I want to live! Talia:REY GET YOUR BUTT OVER HERE. |
2008-03-23, 18:05 | Link #1246 | |
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2008-03-23, 18:06 | Link #1247 | |
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2008-03-23, 18:12 | Link #1248 | |
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To blame it on the druggies is ridiculous because they were fighting Freedom who was in the air. And eitherway it's kinda pointless because Shin doesn't even remember Freedom, etc. He doesn't blame them, he blames Orb. If he saw Calamity again it'd be the same thing with Freedom. |
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2008-03-23, 23:39 | Link #1249 | |
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2008-03-24, 05:36 | Link #1250 | |
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2008-03-24, 10:08 | Link #1251 |
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Shinn was shown to be completely unreasonable in what he wanted orb to do. Did he want orb to have joined the Earth Alliance? If so then why did he get so angry when they DID join them. Did he want them to ask ZAFT for help? Thats one of the reasons i thought Shinn was a crap character; He simply didn't make any sense.
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2008-03-24, 10:33 | Link #1252 |
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No, he wanted Orb to pay. Maybe he was selfish to want it, but, ultimately, the country reminds him of the life he once had and lost.
We have to remember that Shinn was no intellectual, nor idealist (though there are many instances when his morality is exposed, like when he rescues the prisoners from the EF camp). He was just a talented orphan with strong emotional issues |
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Yes, how unreasonable for someone to get pissed at Orb's hypocrisy at changing postions, years AFTER doing so would have prevented the deaths of many innocents! Quote:
In Seed, the EA fleet outside the islands threatens to invade unless they are allowed use of the mass driver. Atha says "up yours, I'd rather die than give up my beliefs" and the EA says "have it your way." In Destiny, Orb, under no such threat, decides to roll over and ally themselves to the EA, and does so by forcing the Minerva into a trap. See the difference? |
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2008-03-24, 10:36 | Link #1254 | |
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2008-03-24, 10:38 | Link #1255 | |
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^ Word. I find it funny that, being a SEED fan, a bit disappointed with Destiny, but still having Shinn as his favorite character of the second series, I have often to struggle with both CE haters and hardcore Kira/Lacus/Athrun/Cagalli fans who just hated Asuka |
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2008-03-24, 10:44 | Link #1256 | |
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The way Shinn was "wasted" was also pretty much the point of his character. I can well imagine that the imagery of him crying in Lunamaria's arms at the very end had been the endpoint the creators had been aiming towards from the very beginning.
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2008-03-24, 12:38 | Link #1259 | |
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Then there is the fact that a good population of Orb's citizens including Shinn's family are coordinators. The EA was being run by Azreal who was head of blue cosmos. Accepting to lay down their government so EA could take over would NOT have been good for ORB's citizens. There is also the issue with the War against ZAFT. ZAFT might have ended up attacking ORB under Zala, which yet again would have put ORB's citizens in trouble. However when ORB joined EA, they were not forced to give up their government. They were not forced to risk civilian lives. Instead they took a precautionary measure to SAVE their civilians. Shinn was angry WELL before he new they had been put in a trap by the EA, therefore that reasoning is moot. |
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