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Old 2008-04-04, 16:05   Link #1
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Macross Frontier Character Discussion - Alto Saotome

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Old 2008-04-04, 20:31   Link #2
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Ok, i suppose that somebody must say it...
I am really scared by the meaning of this pic:



Alto has some relation with the Kabuki and is a onnagata… or they only look for to satisfy niche of "traps"?
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Old 2008-04-05, 01:07   Link #3
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@jett that's alto?!?!? i thought it was sheryl!

any way I think alto is an interesting and sympathetic character.I'd say more but it's only episode 1.
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Old 2008-04-05, 07:22   Link #4
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I am really scared by the meaning of this pic:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9...ltohimeon2.jpg?
For starters, we know thanks to the special first episode that he's not happy at all with being labeled a female because of his looks --- so it's pretty obvious that that image shall have something to do with it.
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Old 2008-04-05, 07:28   Link #5
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Ok, i suppose that somebody must say it...
I am really scared by the meaning of this pic:



Alto has some relation with the Kabuki and is a onnagata… or they only look for to satisfy niche of "traps"?
Yeah, too bad it's a series spoiler to mention it now. It's not the first TV series that aired this year to introduce this element into a character development. However, he is the first one to be pissed about it. Maybe Kabuki is seeing a resurgence in Japan or there is a decrease in onnagata in Japan now.
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Old 2008-04-05, 08:15   Link #6
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He needs a haircut :3
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Old 2008-04-05, 09:24   Link #7
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Haha Princess Alto ftw.
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Old 2008-04-05, 14:52   Link #8
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Haha Princess Alto ftw.
Doujin material.
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Old 2008-04-05, 15:11   Link #9
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I think he's much less reticent then most of your typical main characters. For example, he seems pretty happy after his encounter with Ranka Lee's little Nyan-Nyan song. He even zooms up on her with his camera. Maybe he has a personality?!
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well, he certainly more "girly" then hikaru was.

at leased he doesn't have a mullet hair cut.

So one thing we know, is that he attends a sort of military cadet high school? or at leased a high school that has a military cadet club? i don't think all high schools have power glider runways.

oh well, as long as they aren't emo-random teenagers to pilot god-hacked robots.
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Old 2008-04-05, 16:01   Link #11
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Everyone knows that emo-random teenagers are the best pilots!!

I just hope he doesn't become automatic pro and engage SEED mode out of nowhere.
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Old 2008-04-05, 16:32   Link #12
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Everyone knows that emo-random teenagers are the best pilots!!

I just hope he doesn't become automatic pro and engage SEED mode out of nowhere.
*crucifies HaveCrayons before the Macross Altar*

Forgive his sins! he is but only a Gundam heathen..oh ok, just the liver too. he doesn't need it anyway.



Unfortunately we don't have "seed" mode in Macross, but we have something similar, but it only happens between when two individuals of opposite gender get busy with each other to bring out the special thing.

Anyway, Altro should have rudimentary training to pilot a vehicle, in cadet clubs they do teach you the basics, so seeing him pilot the Valkyrie wasn't surprising.

Seems like a pretty passionate character, but no emo here, these mecha don't feed off emo-vibes like does special gundams need.

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I think he's much less reticent then most of your typical main characters. For example, he seems pretty happy after his encounter with Ranka Lee's little Nyan-Nyan song. He even zooms up on her with his camera. Maybe he has a personality?!
His personality is probably something like, "The only thing that I like more than flying around in the sky is shacking up with chicks who are half my height."
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*crucifies HaveCrayons before the Macross Altar*

Forgive his sins! he is but only a Gundam heathen..oh ok, just the liver too. he doesn't need it anyway.



Unfortunately we don't have "seed" mode in Macross, but we have something similar, but it only happens between when two individuals of opposite gender get busy with each other to bring out the special thing.

Anyway, Altro should have rudimentary training to pilot a vehicle, in cadet clubs they do teach you the basics, so seeing him pilot the Valkyrie wasn't surprising.

Seems like a pretty passionate character, but no emo here, these mecha don't feed off emo-vibes like does special gundams need.

That was sarcasm by the way =x
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That was sarcasm by the way =x
so was mine.

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Old 2008-04-05, 17:53   Link #16
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You know, nowadays when you are making an anime, you have to include a TRAP character just for the sake of following the trend.

This being said, since Kabuki is only played by males, I do not consider that playing Onnagata equals to TRAP... This also means that that photo has to be Alto since Sheryle cannot play Kabuki for this very reason

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Ok, i suppose that somebody must say it...
I am really scared by the meaning of this pic:



Alto has some relation with the Kabuki and is a onnagata… or they only look for to satisfy niche of "traps"?
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Old 2008-04-06, 08:21   Link #17
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But having onnagata or onnagata-like characters shown in real life with identity issues and being emo or pissed off is becoming popular. So is there a reaction against onnagata now in Japan?

Another anime currently being aired has 2 of these characters in it. One that has finished had 1 character but without the identity issues. That character was emo about something else.
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Old 2008-04-06, 16:51   Link #18
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Aww come on, how can we be sure Alto is a trap? Alto has too much Gar potential to be a trap (tell me that shot at the end of the episode isn't screaming Gar)

Edit: When rewatching the op it seemed a bit more likely, for one thing they have the same eyes (colour and structure) and their hair is the same colour too. Will Alto's Gar potential be undermined?

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Old 2008-04-06, 21:08   Link #19
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Most of us were saying that he isn't a trap. Aruto obviously has his sexual identity in place and is not trying to fool anybody.

Also, onnagata is not a subset of trap. More info about onnagata and Kabuki is here.

But this won't prevent people such as Micheal from teasing him about it.
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Old 2008-04-07, 07:38   Link #20
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Eheh. Family name Saotome, sensitive about gender issues... I smell huge crossover potential. Be afraid...

(and yes, I know they most likely use different kanji, but that never mattered to anyone who wanted to write fanfic anyway...)

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