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Old 2008-04-16, 10:14   Link #23641
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Old 2008-04-16, 10:19   Link #23643
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They had 4 AA, 2 A, 4 B, and 1 C.
Ark, once again, that's at the beginning. The forwards are fresh out of boot camp at this point, where the members of Dragon Army have already been in the force for at least a year or two. This is one point I'm not going to compromise on: B+ at the minimum.

Besides, if it's just a matter of bureau policies, I can fudge the details because this is a team of Enforcers, who seem to operate largely outside the established military structure.
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Ignoring the fact that electronics generally need electronics to revieve them, and magical bullets have none,
You’re REALLY just not getting what I’m saying at all are you? Yes the magic bolts have no electronics on board (as we know them), but the devices clearly do have something rather similar and as we’ve already covered that IMO the mage is only minimally involved in the projectiles guidance hence the electronics in the device are really the brains of the operation. Basically the mage is thinking something like “go shot that target.” At the device and the device is turning that into “steer illuminating beam 15 degrees to port, adjust intensity 20% to account for range, perform frequency hopping to counter possible enemy jamming.”

IMO the bolts themselves are normally quite stupid and it’s the “brains” in the device that’s doing most of the work to make them appear smart, hence electronics. Again I see mages as rather like Fighter or Helicopter pilots in this regard they put the target in the pipper and pull the trigger, but it’s the lead computing gun sight makes sure the bullets find there mark via a bit of mathematic and electronic wizardy.

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Nanoha was training her control in the very first episode of A's, with Raising Heart doing the counting.
That doesn’t really prove much to me homing is only half the battle you still need to know how to use your weapons effectively, and indeed multi-tasking to be able to manage your weapons while other stuff is happening is important. It’s also worth noting that Nanoha was new, had no formal training, and while somewhat intelligent RH is no tactical mastermind. Just like her jacket is probably based on having watched too many magic girl shows her tactics are probably in many ways similar she might well be using manual guidance, not because that’s the best or most effective method, but because it’s intuitive and she thinks that how it ought to work.

Frankly this is even a debate IMO you’ve already admitted homing shots are possible canon says they are, given this semi-active modes are also entirely possible and vastly superior to direct manual control. If homing is possible there is almost no logical reason this homing can’t be jammed even less so when we know magic is based on various mathematic principles and spells are basiclly “programs” and so will have clear and set patterns. This is all that’s needed for electronic warfare to be viable and important.

That a 9 year old with no formal training on a backwater planet making it up as she goes along might not know or use this knowledge isn’t really a very compelling argument against it for me.

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Quite simple, Barret F has been explicitely stated to be fire-and-forget, Axel Shooter wasn't. All evidence stacks against RH being in control, you just choose to excuse it.
No you just choose to ignore the mountain of logic that says Nanoha could never do this kind of thing with her brain alone and that RH MUST be providing massive amounts of assistance and basiclly running the show behind the scenes. You also ignore that of an active fire and forget spell can be made that spell can also be turned into a most likely much less complex semi-active homing spell with very little change to the underlying principles.

You keep harping on this manual control nonsense while ignoring that canon has already effectively affirmed my theory as entirely viable by the mere existence of Barret F. You also ignore that no human could possibly exert the kind of control your suggesting without enormous amounts of mechanical assistance, to the point that his job is more to direct the effort then acutally run it himself.

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You should know by now that applying millitairy logic to an anime that does not have realism as a first thought is a lost cause.
No it’s not, this isn’t even about military realism if I was asking for that I’d be bitching about doctrine or poor rank structure. No this is about wanting the characters that are supposed to be and repeatedly described as highly skilled combatants to not be acting like dumbasses in combat. Asking for logical and well thought out actions by supposedly skilled warriors in battle hardly seems unreasonable to me. I WANT the Aces to kick ass and appear highly skilled, but what canon shows us is largely a pattern of ineptitude counter-balanced only by overwhelming brute force.

To many pieces of media do this for my liking they substitute raw power and contrivances for logic and sounding reasoning. It's not like you need to be a military nut to think of this stuff it's just simple deductive reasoning. Acutally the fact that nearly everyone agrees me with can be seen in the fact that other authors have repeatedly come to me for tactical advice to ask if there scenes and character actions make sense. I normally say that if you just use a bit of logic you can normally tell that yourself, but either way it's clear to me that most people where not happy with the level of "skill" shown in the series and are striving for a higher standard in there own fics.

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The way you think is the way one gives verbal commands. Yes, this is slower. However, when I visuallize the battle between Keroko and Tesla, I can visualize the way the beams twist and turn. Putting it into words takes longer then visualizing it, which is near instant. That is the key difference. Mental control works by visualization, not wording.
Acutally it really doesn’t you can think of a pretty picture all you want but a simple image gives no useful information for doing anything unless you’re now saying that devices can interpret flashes of mental images and translate them into discreet commands in which case it’s no longer the mage giving the commands so much as the device performing outright mind reading and guessing at what the mage wants to do.

BMIs are NOT some all powerful thing where just the briefest of thoughts can will the machine to action. They take focus, concentration, and indeed training to function at all and this is unlikely to change given the nature of our brains and the signals they produce. Acutally this could well be another element of training as a mage and why higher level devices seem hard to use for many people the level of thought, focus, and training needed to effectively manage them in battle is likely intense which is just another reason as much of this should be automated as possible. It also nicely explains why they need to be tuned and for the most part it doesn’t seem like you can grab someone else’s device and use it if they are reading brainwaves and such they’re probably tuned for the user with the “sync” improving over time (to a point) and just as likely rigged to ignore any other pattern attempting to give them orders.

Basically a quick mental image will NOT give the device any kind of useful information assuming a reasonably realistic BMI is used. The user will need to focus and basiclly “think at” the device in a manner very much like if he was controlling the action himself… because he basiclly is, but instead of using his fingers he’s using his brainwaves, but make no mistake the same amount of thought is going into the process, but it’s being transmitted and read in a different way by the machine.

For instance say you need to cook diner, but you're going to do it with a BMI controlled robot instead of you hands. Do you seriously think you can just "visualize" the end product and that the BMI/robot will somehow shit out gourmet masterpiece? If you have a shred of logic you'd say "of course not" well then why do you seem to think that some split second visualization will suffice for missile guidance an even more processing intensive task then cooking?

As I said it’s a common assumption among many people that a BMI will for some reason be blisteringly fast compared to manual inputs. What these people tend to ignore is that the human brain is ALREADY the bottleneck in his loop changing the input method will not somehow radically speed up it’s ability to issue useful commands. A BMI biggest edge assuming a still baseline brain isn’t that it’s faster so much as that it can be used when manual inputs are impractical or impossible.

There are pretty much three ways this can be the case:
1- The user is somehow unable to produce manual inputs at all; IE he’s crippled.
2- Carrying a system for manual inputs is impractical
3- The thing being managed has so many facets to it that having the needed number of manual input devices would be unwieldy, in this case though it would have to compete and probably fail with a verbal command scheme, backed by manual inputs for the most common tasks.

Devices are sort of a combo of 2 and 3, they do allot of different stuff and carrying around a set of keyboards and such while flying at 200 miles per hour is hardly viable. Ever notice though that back on base and even in militray command centers the people are all TYPING. If BMI are so grossly superior how come they aren't being used exclusively in application such and command and control where speed is needed? Could it be that there advantage ISN'T some massively increase in speed, but merely born of the circumstances in which a device must be used? Good science says this might well be the case and canon seems to support it if BMIs are so wonderful why do only devices seem to bother with them?

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You might want to switch your sarcasm detector to 'on' I've always suported gender equality.
Whatever when dealing with this kind of debate I always err on the side of the "the person means everything they say" since in the past I've had guys bring up points that I thought her jokes and say "well you didn't dispute it then so you must think it's true".

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What point? 'There is no decent ranged combat in Nanoha' or 'ranged combat in Nanoha is impossible?' The former, yes. The later, absolutely not.
The former is a symptom of the fact that ti's boarding on the later ranged combat IS possible (DUH), but as I've said repeatedly as it's presented in canon said combat is boring in the extreme lacking complexity and depth. You admit as much IMO and the lack of much of it in the series itself show that as some level even the producers seem to feel that way. As I said at the start IMO as it is now ranged air combat has too little complexity to be truly interesting and will instead invariably boil down to who has more magical power, and that annoys me as while power sure as hell matters I like skill to be the final arbiter in a close fight.

I'd also note that Teana was really the only one in the series to have NO form of flight at all. I think that was as much so that she'd have to and could use cover and such on the ground as it was any other reason as that made the fairly stale and bland ranged combat aspects of the series easier to conceal.

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I guess you missed the parts where I said 'replace' and I was talking about individual dogfights anyway, not full-scale millitairy operations.
Said dogfights in the book weren't very interesting either to me and often boiled down to "Random Tie Pilot dose something really stupid, Random Rouge flys behind him and blows him out of the sky" it was only at the higher tactical or strategic levels that I found allot of interest. I haven't read every single book and the ones I did where years ago, but I can't off the top of my head recall a really compelling aerial duel in them.


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That one had me seriosuly questioning whether the author truly realized the potential of the SSD.
Trust me he didn't Stackpole is a technical ignoramus.

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Then again, the Executor got offed by a single A-Wing crashing through the bridge...
After being wailed on by dozens of heavy cruisers for at least ten plus minutes and according to the novel even that hit wasn't fatal at all. What did it in was that they lost control of the ship when the bridge was hit and before the secondary bridge could regain control it careened into the death star. Even in the move note it's not like the ship explodes outright when the A-wing hits and being in space there is not reason for it to "fall" into the death star (don't say gravity the work as been done it would have taken HOURS to happen at a bare minimum) the ship was clearly alive, but out of control which indeed is about what you'd expect after losing the bridge.

If it had been in open space it might have been out of it for a bit and open to more bombardment by the enemy, but without a conveniently placed battle station to ram into it might well have been able to keep fighting fairly well once the secondary bridge fully asserted control.

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She already was primarely melee during the first season. It's like how Belka can fight at ranged as well (one of Belka's top users is a ranged specialist with near zero melee capabillities for crying out loud!), limiting yourself to either creates weaknesses after all.
She wasn't as heavily focused on that aspect though IMO she used more ranged spells and such, in later seasons she seemed to shift more and more towards a total melee alignment. At least that was my feeling, that said both of those examples are clearly rare that much is made clear, I also recall that Hayate style is said to be something of a hybrid, and it's also ancient in nature and while we aren't entirely sure what the differences are, but that could also be a factor.

Also if we go down this route then what's the point of picking a style at all? or even having them at all if one can do anything with any style? Seems to render the entire thing a little pointless dosen't it?

Also limiting yourself to range breeds no inherent weakness IMO since melee weapons are inherently inferior to begin with. Though doing it in the manner of Hayate or most Mid mages seem to indeed breeds in significant weakness, but IMO this is more from bad tactics and decisions then anything else. I basiclly feel that a mage with the right mind set, spells, and tactics need not really know any melee skills at all. To me Felix is an example of this he dosen't have a single spell that's close range exclusive and his only melee weapon would be to try and club the guy over the head with his gun shaped device.

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True, what we have is very little, but it gives us plenty to work with. During episode 5 Nanoha was firing Divine Busters and Axel Shooters like there's no tomorow while dogfighting, showing that it very much is possible to do so. Working with that single scene, making a fast and fluid aerial combat is pretty easy, and without the need to insert all sorts of unproven technobable that will leave a lot of people in the dust to boot.
It's not enough for my tastes I've already used that scene as an excuse to get my mages mobile in combat instead of standing around trading sots, but I still think more can be done.

Also while too MUCH techno-babble is bad not explaining anything or oversimplifying everything is just as bad. Never assume your readers know everything you know, but never assume they're morons either. Some of the new aspects might need a contrived scene or two to set the rules and explain them a bit, but once set down I don't think they're so complex that readers will be baffled by them and that they'll add some flavor to things.

At the moment I writing a sort of Field Manual about my own style of aerial Combat Magic I intend to use in my fic which I shall submit for review at some point in the near future I hope.
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Old 2008-04-16, 11:17   Link #23645
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You’re REALLY just not getting what I’m saying at all are you? Yes the magic bolts have no electronics on board (as we know them), but the devices clearly do have something rather similar and as we’ve already covered that IMO the mage is only minimally involved in the projectiles guidance hence the electronics in the device are really the brains of the operation. Basically the mage is thinking something like “go shot that target.” At the device and the device is turning that into “steer illuminating beam 15 degrees to port, adjust intensity 20% to account for range, perform frequency hopping to counter possible enemy jamming.”
Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that mages with intelligent devices can become dependent on them, probably for exactly this reason?
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Old 2008-04-16, 11:30   Link #23646
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One must remember that he was able to hang on against Vita who's two ranks above him. RH is also particularly fickle - it is the only device we see that ever needed an incantation to activate.
Just something that was used to identify with the magical girl genre for initial impressions. At least that got junked early, imagine if they had kept it all the way to StS and that would have been bad.

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Well, this will come as a little surprise, but this chapter is supposedly combined together with Chapter 8. A little review separated them, though, because I think dropping another Bluecheese Nuke rivaling Chapter 6 (which was capped at 26K words, combined Chapter 7-8 probably slightly more than that) is going to make a lot of people go bonkers and start screaming for my skin .

Nothing big here, really, just a lot of information dump. And I think I got some of the characters OOC (Out-of-Character) and some things OOC (Out-of-Canon) .

Anyway ...

*drops nuke and runs*
Omigawd. You caught me with pants down after Aaron's bomb.

Can't help but say this is certainly one great read of an info dump. Not a dull moment in between the explanations and the character interactions inserted was great as well. =3

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Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that mages with intelligent devices can become dependent on them, probably for exactly this reason?
Management at certain levels, like Tk's example, will have to be done by the device simply because a normal human can't match up. Over-dependence happens when the mage so-call 'slacks off', leaving tasks that could manage reasonably well to the device to handle.

And you have Chrono, who is said to manage nearly every aspect of spellcasting by himself. Of course the degree of which is never mentioned.
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Old 2008-04-16, 11:39   Link #23647
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They had 4 AA, 2 A, 4 B, and 1 C. The guy needs 12, all of which apparently have to be A or above. The math doesn't work out. Even if 3 of the AAs are depowered to A (the leader presumably must be at least AA), that still is 1 AA, 8 As, 1 B and 1C. More likely, the leader is 3A and that crimps the budget even further.
At the beginning, yes. Near the end of StrikerS The stats have changed, where the forwards are ranking AA, with Caro in the A range as well.

Also, you forgot to take into calculation that Shamal and Zafira may or may not have limiters (they're not captains, after all) in which case you will have to acount for an AAA and AA+

Limiters are placed to downpower powerfull mages in a squad, making things more even, while I do agree that the ranking of B+ and above minimal seems more realistic, your math is inherently flawed due to a lack of knowledge of how the limiter system actually works.

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At the beginning, yes. Near the end of StrikerS The stats have changed, where the forwards are ranking AA, with Caro in the A range as well.
Yes, but not officially. Officially, they were still Bs and Cs as the unit disbanded.

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Also, you forgot to take into calculation that Shamal and Zafira may or may not have limiters (they're not captains, after all) in which case you will have to acount for an AAA and AA+
I know Zafira's ID card says AAA, but the official site says AA. Which is it?

But yeah, I'll admit I forgot all about them. I blame this entirely on 7Arcs' shabby treatment of them. If you count them in, then you can probably stretch it to cover all 12 guys.
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I'm probably going to downgrade the squad to 8 members anyways, just because 12 members is a lot to keep track of and give equal "screentime" to. I'm also thinking this squad is going to behave more like a group of contract mages than actual enforcers; they're associated with the Enforcers, but don't have any authority over members of the other branches, so they're kinda like bureau-trained mercenaries, much more loose and less formal than even RF6 is.
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Yes she can, a feature I am still grumbling they never animated.
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It all depends on the how and why. Let's not forget not a few Wolkies and Aces would be quite upset if your intentions were... not that pure.
Oi oi, I am a gentleman, Keroko-kun. Under no circumstances would I attempt to do impure things to Tesla. Now if she did happen to-

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I'm going to need a bit more then a simple image like that.

It looks like a mecha, in which case I already would discourage you. The Nanohaverse is not the place for Mecha.
Yeah...we've already had some...heated discussions about the inclusion of mecha here.
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Deductive fanboy logic could actually turn that into 'StrikerS was mildly disapointing because of a lack of Yuuno' :3
That's...an interesting interpretation.

And not one I ever considered. It's not like that's the only flaw in StrikerS, but...

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I suppose I felt cheated mildly, seeing how Nanoha talked about the role of Strikers. Things like teamwork, etc, in the end of things, held little weight in the story. I'm fairly sure the 'whole Aces got saved by Forwards' in 26 was supposed to represent that, but c'mon, out of everything possible, that was the least palatable.
I figured that might happen eventually; "student saves master" is a long-used trope. Still one of those "saw it a mile away" ones, though.

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Goddammit, then the whole concept falls apart! DA is supposed to be a backup unit for Enforcers in the field, providing a significant boost in firepower for lone mages trying to retrieve LLs and/or dealing with hostile forces. How can they do that if they're barely better than a squad of mooks?!
Hey, the gap between "squad of mooks" and "named character" is a pretty big gap if the show's anything to go by.
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Actually I already thought of something like that, an "Armor Integration System" that has a few advantages: 1. Greatly boosts the defensive abilities of both the Knight Armor/Barrier Jacket, and any defensive spells cast. 2. Since the device elements extend throughout the armor, it extends the ability to cast multiple spells at the same time. One with a normal device, one with an offhand if aplicable, one through the armor itself, possibly for Defense, and perhaps even one through the mage/knight's base capabilities. 3. The main purpose of the system, stress reduction for both the device and the user, allowing not just for easier use of high end bombardment spells, or especially the Cartridge System, to the point where multiple Cartridge Systems can be employed, such as one on the main device and up to three on the armor. (though at that point the user would be experiancing the same stress as if they were using a normal Armed device if they fired all four at once, and there would be further stress risks to the device)
...Though now that I'm looking at this one a second time, it would have to be busted down on some aspects to balance it out.
So it's basically a massive reinforcement system? Huh.

I might tone it down in some aspects, true, but I don't think the concept is outright unfeasable. Multicasting would be my biggest point, although I do have a multicast system myself, so I can't really complain. I'll keep it in mind.
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Ranged combat, anti-infantry with one or two anti-material spells, like a hypercharged javelin throw intended to pierce through multiple layers of armor. Extreme penetration and explosive power at the cost of a long charge-up time (20-30 seconds).
That's a heck of a power spell. On par with a heavy Buster or something...who's using this spell again?

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I'm back Now cooled off and with my head on the right place

Use this time to develop a lot of new interesting ideas.
Though, not involved with MSNL but still using Koji, Yui and Maren...and maybe Altea and Treize too
It's another original story I'm working on (with this makes three of them)

I haven't decided the name yet (like Elemental Guardian...or something alike )
Basically, it's a mix of Prism Ark, Erementar Gerad and a bit of Zero no Tsukaima

Anyway...here's my lightspeed backlog breaker

Spoiler for Backlog:


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Ok, now, I guess I'll be working on a remake of the last chapter, and make it acceptable. Maybe just change the whole Relic number 11/Experimental Relic Weapon mess I made...

Well, off to work on it ~kamo
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Well, speak of the devil. We were just last night wondering where'd you'd been. Nice to have ya back.

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Yes, for one multi-casting is not device dependant, the device still taps into the users magic supply to cast the spell, so I don't see where the stress-reduction part comes from. If anything, having two spells cast at the same time would increase stress on the user.

The defensive plus is an OK though. I see no problem with having a Device in armor form either.
Maybe the multicast thing uses some kind of mana battery or something, gives you a booster shot of mana so you don't have to expend as much of your own. I had an idea sort of like that, I just never got around to using it. I agree that normal multicasting would be tricky to do, but maybe no more so than the Blaster System or what.
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Dude… it was causing a multi-color laser light show in the fucking sky all you’d need to do to “detect it” is look up. Everyone awake and looking up in the facing hemisphere knows SOMETHING weird happened in the sky that night, though perhaps not quite what.
I think even a simpleton might think a flashing night sky means [I]something[/s] weird's going down.

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Ark, once again, that's at the beginning. The forwards are fresh out of boot camp at this point, where the members of Dragon Army have already been in the force for at least a year or two. This is one point I'm not going to compromise on: B+ at the minimum.

Besides, if it's just a matter of bureau policies, I can fudge the details because this is a team of Enforcers, who seem to operate largely outside the established military structure.
Since we're on Enforcers again, I have a question: Does an Enforcer have to be atttached to one of the three main branches, or could you have a non-division Enforcer? Just in theory.

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Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that mages with intelligent devices can become dependent on them, probably for exactly this reason?
I believe you're right, and for that reason.

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Holy Backlog.
Oh please, it was worse a few days back.
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Holy Bluecheesium.

Aaron makes a grand comeback with the first of the blueecheese bombs. Thumbs up for the profile and double thumbs up for the effort behind this.

Lastly..

THIS! IS!! HAYATE!!!

=3
*kicks Tormenk into The Pit*

:3

*runs*

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Those of you on IRC might recall I mentioned this before, well I was serious and so I present the initial profile of someone that most of you might find a bit familiar with...
Spoiler for Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen:


He'll be serving as a somewhat morally ambiguous antagonist in my new fic though he won't appear for a bit.
Ah yes, your bloody Red Baron.

Do wanna see how he actually turns out though.
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Spoiler for Belkan Armored System:
Called it :3 . Signum uses something like that in Alpha. (Although more feminine and without the helmet >.> )

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Besides, in Alpha, he has a Device. Though he doesn't really need one. (Protip: Apart from being called "Doc" by everyone - Alpha Yuuno is a fully-trained Special Forces combat medic - Yuuno is also, in my mind, Indiana Scrya. ^_____________^)
For one, it's a Storage Device. For two, it was me who implanted the idea of Indiana Scrya into your head, dork.

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Pretty short this time round.

Though the cliffhanger was evil, and should've been more evil. It didn't feel like she was in danger of death the way those last parts were written. :3
Bahhh :3. I'll try harder!


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I'll pass on that last bit.
Okay, how about exploding brains?

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I was disapointed myself, mainly because I like Yuuno and Chrono, and those two cameos were not nearly enough to satisfy me.
Agreed. Why couldn't they get to kick ass instead of being put on a bus and pretty much never seen again?

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I'm back Now cooled off and with my head on the right place
You're back!!! Welcome home!

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Spoiler for Nova and her lovely spear:
Delicious Etna

*hides

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Evil evil evil. Alpha only gets better and better with each chapter. =3
Thank you

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Warm And Fuzzy Feelings.

Took me a while to figure put that one too.
It's a good feeling too >.>
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But it's so fun to make your eyes spin! XD (Besides this was a lot calmer than if TK unleashed his guns on you.)
Ah, sou sou . But wouldn't TK's way be more entertaining?

*RUNS*

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Oh btw, for MMO fans, check out what I found that would make Gordon Ramstead - Tauren's Kitchen proud.
Oh lol .

Mmm...Delicious Cave Mold.

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Nice short piece. Pretty much the usual pimp!transition piece, but it's okay.

... Does she has a DisCalibur? >_<
DisCalibur?

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That would be a good analogy to use.
With all the dimensional travel, Yuuko seemed to be a good source of explaination

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Yay! Welcome back Flame!!
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Warm And Fuzzy Feelings.

Took me a while to figure put that one too.
I see

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Yuuno has earned the title of "Tank."


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Well, speak of the devil. We were just last night wondering where'd you'd been. Nice to have ya back.
It's good to be back...again

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Warm And Fuzzy Feelings! (nipaa~)


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You're back!!! Welcome home!
tadaima~

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It's a good feeling too >.>


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Yay! Welcome back Flame!!


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Just fixed part 3 of the previous chapter...not much changed though, just enough to match part 2

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*Peers in*

What's this about someone returning? If so, I say this to the returning person:

おかえりなさい。 *Bows*

:3
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You’re REALLY just not getting what I’m saying at all are you?
No I don't, which is my point! Overcomplication and overtechicalization of a simple magical system. I can handle a limited degree of technobable, but as soon as terms like 'SACLOS' and whatever follows start to get mentioned, things go whoosh.

I mean, come on, do you really think Seven Arcs, who did not bother to research militairy strategy, biology or the Laws of Physics, would do research on this?

*Will formulate a more computable reply tommorow. I caught myself nodding off at least three times trying to reply, and I quite honestly don't trust what I'm typing when I'm this tired.
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Deal with backlog later...I HATE this goddamned formatting system...


AND NOW...


LegendS Episode 3!


READ IT!


Lelouch vi Britannia Reiji di Tabibito COMMANDS YOU!!!!





Spoiler for Episode 3, Part A:


Spoiler for Episode 3, Part B:


Spoiler for Episode 4 Preview:


Spoiler for Episode 3 Supplementary:
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Ah, finally got around to starting this...

Spoiler for Darkness Within, pt 1:
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Ah, finally got around to starting this...

Spoiler for Darkness Within, pt 1:
Well I'm intrigued :3 I look forward to what you plan to do with this story :3

Oh yeah, anyone get the feel that this is what Syn might look like when she's older? :3

Spoiler for Syn 19 years old-ish?:


*RUNS*
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Old 2008-04-16, 19:05   Link #23660
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No time to read profiles or episodes, class in negative 1 min, so I'll be quick...

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Yuuno has earned the title of "Tank."
He'd always been a Druid, why not?

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Oh lol .

Mmm...Delicious Cave Mold.
I heard there was Cruchy Spider Surprise in there too, but using King Crab legs. And that is awesome.

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Oh yeah, anyone get the feel that this is what Syn might look like when she's older? :3

Spoiler for Syn 19 years old-ish?:


*RUNS*
Might work, though if only Keroko hadn't been using so much of Lindy, my impression of Syn has been one of more 'flesh'...

Btw, in my crack, Juliet Scagletti is the 3rd of the Vivio-dan. Only problem is, I'm not too sure how Vivio or Syn might act with an incorrigible trouble-maker around... Heck, I don't even know if Julie might be a lightbulb, if you know what I mean. :/

And you might say Fate and Kha's parenting ways kinda spoiled her. Which the end-product might have Syn being rather... pissed?
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