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Old 2004-04-09, 05:56   Link #21
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Totan translation wasnt bad although I did notice a couple things probably due to a lack of knowledge in medical terminology. Cerebral aneurysm was translated as arterial lump. Pyramis was mispelled. Some of the aesthetics could have been improved as well to more fit the way a surgeon would speak. I think a neurosurgeon would more likely say "the bullet grazed the middle cerebral artery" rather than "the bullet scratched the central brain artery". Of course, if you dont have a medical background it probably doesnt make that much of a difference.
Those are good points, I will try to do a better job of phrasing such things in the future episodes. We do go fast, but quality is still more important than releasing a few hours earlier. In fact, if you would like to help by editing medical terminology, we would greatly appriciate the help!

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Just another little glitch in the translation, there's a grammatical error at 7:14 - "What do you saying Dr. Becker?"

I'm not trying to dump on ToTan, just give a little constructive feedback, so I hope it's taken that way.
Don't worry, it is taken that way. We will try even harder in the future to catch these types of errors.

I want to repeat that we do not just want downloads because we are the first, doing that is pointless. We do wish to do it as quickly as possible, while still producing a great quality fansub.

We all enjoy this show, and that is why we are subbing it. We are also a Czech based group, we have good knowledge of German, and there will in fact be some parts that are even in Czech later on, when
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We think this will help make our release worthwhile. We also have native english editors of course, we are not all Czech. We are also working with another subbing group to release a French version, and we will be making a Czech version as well, which we plan to ultimately release together as a trilingual subtitled mkv.

I'm really looking forward to this series, and I am glad to see so many others are too.
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Old 2004-04-09, 07:15   Link #22
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I must give my compliment to the Totan Staff--Marvelous job at the first episode. Really, all the semantic and terminalogies aside, I am grateful for this release. There is one thing, for the opeing text-base prologue--the Revelation verse, did you guys just pulled the matching text out of the Bible? If so, which version? and from what language?

*Odd of me to be asking this--I'm not religious by any means. I'm just aware that there are many versions of the bible out there
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Old 2004-04-09, 07:41   Link #23
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The Totan subs use the King James Version
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Old 2004-04-09, 08:09   Link #24
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Wow, this was the creepiest thing I've seen since NaruTaru.

I can tell this is going to get 10 times as disturbing as it goes on...



Now, are they really going to do 78 episodes of this? Where could they possibly get the funding?
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Old 2004-04-09, 08:30   Link #25
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Wow, this was the creepiest thing I've seen since NaruTaru.

I can tell this is going to get 10 times as disturbing as it goes on...



Now, are they really going to do 78 episodes of this? Where could they possibly get the funding?
It should be around that, if you compare the number of manga chapters.
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Old 2004-04-09, 12:13   Link #26
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The manga has actually sold incredibly well in Japan. Along with most other Urasawa mangas if i'm correct, which i could well not be.
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Old 2004-04-09, 12:49   Link #27
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Now, are they really going to do 78 episodes of this? Where could they possibly get the funding?
This show really needs at least that many episodes to do it properly. I was having fits trying to imagine them cramming everything into 26--or worse, 13--episodes.
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Old 2004-04-09, 13:01   Link #28
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if they manage to make 78 eps that are at least as good as the first one ... i'll be happily d/l ing all of em
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Old 2004-04-09, 13:38   Link #29
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Somehow I doubt this will be 70+ eps. It just doesnt fit the mold of other long series. Its not a sports anime, not aimed at kids, not shounen action like Naruto, or a long shoujo series. I would be very surprised if it ran more than 26.
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Old 2004-04-09, 13:50   Link #30
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Actually the director announced in the pre-showing of epsiode 1 (they had some party in Japan for that), that the series would be 70 epsiode long.
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Old 2004-04-09, 14:01   Link #31
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Somehow I doubt this will be 70+ eps. It just doesnt fit the mold of other long series. Its not a sports anime, not aimed at kids, not shounen action like Naruto, or a long shoujo series.
And thats exactly why it wont suck like those other series that brake the 60 eps mark.
Because there is enough story for every single episode. No stupid naruto like 5 episode fights, or POT like 3 episode matches, no filler, no shit. Just shocking story developments, unexpected deaths, new locations, more and more mysteries forshadowing a huge final.

Thats exactly why i think that the monster manga WILL suceed.
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Old 2004-04-09, 14:19   Link #32
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Somehow I doubt this will be 70+ eps. It just doesnt fit the mold of other long series. Its not a sports anime, not aimed at kids, not shounen action like Naruto, or a long shoujo series. I would be very surprised if it ran more than 26.
Trust me, it's impossible for this series to be crammed into 26 eps or less. There's just so much going on and all these intricate plot threads that connect to one another. It works out excellently in the manga, so I find myself wondering how they're going to carry that out in the anime. It's not like a shounen anime, as IMSabbel said. There's no need for filler, and it's certainly not tournament or fighting based.

In fact, with 70 eps, right now I'm just trying to figure out what they're going to cut out of the manga. I can think of a few detours that might be able to be axed without harming the story that will probably bring us to the right length. And I can see all the really important parts are represented in the opening, so no worries about those being changed/cut.
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Old 2004-04-09, 15:27   Link #33
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anyone know why it takes place in germany instead of japan? not wanting to send the idea that that stuff happens in a japanese hospital?
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Old 2004-04-09, 15:43   Link #34
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not wanting to send the idea that that stuff happens in a japanese hospital?
Nah, I really don't think race enters into it. After all, if you do think Monster is trying to say soemthing about German hospitals, I wonder what 20th Century Boys is saying about Japan in general...
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Old 2004-04-09, 15:59   Link #35
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yeah, 20th Century Boys, another manga series that would make a wonderful anime, let's just keep hoping

About why the story is set in Germany, well, you'll know as the story progresses. Let's just say that this story can only be set in Germany, if it's set in Japan it won't make any sense. We don't have a "East Japan" and "West Japan" do we?

I hope this series can be a 70+ episode series, and revolutionize the anime industry as a whole. And so far so good, as it really sticks to the manga page by page, there's not even the slightest change in the progress of the story. GREAT!
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Old 2004-04-09, 18:10   Link #36
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well Vicious-san said download this so im grabbing this one
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Old 2004-04-09, 18:50   Link #37
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I think it's in Germany because Germany is known to have some of the top medical and health care in the world, and Herr Doktor Tenma is supposed to be a highly prestigious doctor. So it kinda fits.

I've seen it in anime before too, like in Prince of Tennis:

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Old 2004-04-09, 19:15   Link #38
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well I heard much good of monster the manga, but I couldn't be bothered reading it, I already don't have much time to read the ones I buy myself, so the ones others buy ...
I didn't watch ep 1 since the download woth BT is really slow with this one, is it trackers related or am I just the only one, I usually download an ep in 3hours ( bw = 16kbps ) but this one is on since 9 hours and I only did 60 % so far...
I hope it'll be finished when I get up tomorrow...
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Old 2004-04-09, 19:38   Link #39
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so how would you guys categorize this? drama, suspense, horror. ALso, please explain why it's so good. The characters(naruto, peacemaker kurogane) or story(evangelion, full metal alchemist)?
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Old 2004-04-09, 19:56   Link #40
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so how would you guys categorize this? drama, suspense, horror. ALso, please explain why it's so good. The characters(naruto, peacemaker kurogane) or story(evangelion, full metal alchemist)?
I would classify it as a drama-suspense series with many horror and mystery elements.

And, there are many things that make Monster an excellent series. First of all, the writing (from what I've read of the manga, which is nearly all of it) is wonderful. It's like reading a good book that you don't want to put down, which means the story is top notch itself.

The characterization for Tenma and the cast is very good as well, but Urasawa has always excelled at that, so if you've read any other series by him (such as Yawara, 20th Century Boys, Master Keaton, and Happy) you can expect more of the same. Even the minor characters all have full personalties and backstories. It can be almost as interesting reading about, oh say, the lawyer that ends up embroiled in all of this, as Tenma himself. This gives you a feel for not only the struggle of the main characters, but a greater picture of the lives they touch and affect.
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