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Old 2008-05-28, 08:29   Link #861
ArchmageXin
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What about her motives for seducing Saito-who,alone,defetead 70000 people(how long will we have to wait before seeing it translated at baka tsuki,i'm wonder...)was she jealous of Louise and was she after his power-when i say jealous i mean to have someone so strong protecting her?
Probably late this week, if you are referring to "A place of courage" I already had it about 50% done and the other 50% is just the cleanup aftermath.
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Old 2008-05-28, 20:47   Link #862
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Argh... Finally read the 14th volume.
I know the main things have been spoiled, but anyways, I wrote up a detailed summary of the novel. If you want, read it. I tried not to miss anything important, but fatigue kind of overcame me near the end, so the last few parts might feel rather cut. Tehe~

Spoiler for summary:


Spoiler for thoughts:


Someone asked why the Elf Gandalf was so scantly dressed. I believe no one really answered.
It was because rain drenched her hood/outfit so she took it off. So that was her undergarments.


Hah, time to wait for the next volume. Actually, take your time. I have to many novels to read, so any more is crushing. Ah-ah, I'm tired. Stupid Summer heat...
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Old 2008-05-28, 21:30   Link #863
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For 6000 years they never developed advance tech at all?? >_>
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Old 2008-05-28, 21:32   Link #864
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About when's the next volume coming out?
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Old 2008-05-28, 21:36   Link #865
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About when's the next volume coming out?
next month or next next month
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Old 2008-05-28, 22:22   Link #866
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ok so let me get this straight....

1.everything that happened to saito was a dream up until he was awoken with the pope/julio..

2.Louise really did lose her memory but regained them through the kiss...

3.Louise can still use her void magic

4.saito was able to write a letter to his mom?

on a side note i hope saito returns home....only if he goes with Louise that is lol
BTW...nice summary
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Old 2008-05-28, 22:32   Link #867
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To clarify,Henrietta is fully capable of being a geniunly caring, friendly and maternal queen, if Saito and Louise do not leave her side and pursue the "return home" quest. Henrietta has showered Saito with fame and glory, not so much rich because she's actually personally not very well off as a queen, in an effort to temper Saito's desire to return home. She seems to have various reasons to keep Saito around, be it emotion, power, or some other unknown related to void...

For future reading, a simple Litmus test would be to see if Henrietta works against Saito from returning home. If she gives her blessing and not interfere-> simple character, naive, etc all that jazz. Otherwise, if she stands in the way-> "final boss".

Also, there is a very good literary reason for Henrietta being the "last boss." It would be it is a very delicious twist that I am not sure if the author can resist not going down that path. It will be boring if once the "big bad" is defeated-> "the end." She doesn't have to be the biggest boss to be the final boss. Plus, there's already ample build-up for that.

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Old 2008-05-28, 23:26   Link #868
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For 6000 years they never developed advance tech at all?? >_>
Sad, isn't it.

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About when's the next volume coming out?
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next month or next next month
Make that in four or five months...

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ok so let me get this straight....

1.everything that happened to saito was a dream up until he was awoken with the pope/julio..

2.Louise really did lose her memory but regained them through the kiss...

3.Louise can still use her void magic

4.saito was able to write a letter to his mom?

on a side note i hope saito returns home....only if he goes with Louise that is lol
BTW...nice summary
1. Yep.

2. Her memories are permanently lost. The new ones she got were Saito's memories.

3. Yep.

4. E-mail. It seems the laptop was still on.

Thanks.

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To clarify,Henrietta is fully capable of being a geniunly caring, friendly and maternal queen, if Saito and Louise do not leave her side and pursue the "return home" quest. Henrietta has showered Saito with fame and glory, not so much rich because she's actually personally not very well off as a queen, in an effort to temper Saito's desire to return home. She seems to have various reasons to keep Saito around, be it emotion, power, or some other unknown related to void...
Oh, she's capable of being a caring, friendly and maternal queen even if they leave her side. For instance, in this volume, Saito left, but she still treated Louise kindly and the others as well. She was shocked, but she accepted it.

While that is a "possibility", it could simply be because she wanted to give him an reward, for the Albion incident. There was good reason she gave him power.
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Old 2008-05-29, 00:21   Link #869
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so they have a laptop in that time? lol my main concern now, is why he's even debating on leaving to his world when everybody knows he love louise lol...you know he wont leave unless its with her to lol...
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Old 2008-05-29, 01:15   Link #870
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so they have a laptop in that time?
No, when he was sucked into the Zero no Tsukaima world, his laptop (from Japan) was sucked in with him. There are no laptops originating in Halkegania.
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Old 2008-05-29, 08:02   Link #871
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oh lol sorry only seen the series didnt know he he had it with him in the novel...
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Old 2008-05-29, 20:51   Link #872
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I guess that means they'll never do this whole thing in the anime with the computer, though such a thing might be too serious and emotional for it.
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Old 2008-05-29, 21:58   Link #873
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I guess that means they'll never do this whole thing in the anime with the computer, though such a thing might be too serious and emotional for it.
With all the items that have made it there from our world, if they decided to do it they would just have one of those items be a laptop.
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Old 2008-05-29, 23:51   Link #874
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One of the things mentioned by Julio in Vol 13 was that all the stuff coming from saito's world seem to be Instrument of death and those who use them. Mono planes, prop planes, even jet fighters and guns from the 1800s till late 20th century and of course tanks. A laptop could arrive but it wouldn't fit in with the theme of only weapons coming through the gates that the author set up.
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Old 2008-05-30, 00:51   Link #875
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Well in the anime thats not true because there was the porn magazine in the filler episode I believe.
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Old 2008-05-30, 07:36   Link #876
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For 6000 years they never developed advance tech at all?? >_>
maybe because they concentrated most on magic...

all the learned individuals are mages and nobles and only a few of them, such as colbert have any interest in studying technology and invention...
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Old 2008-05-30, 08:33   Link #877
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That's a brilliant point, but the magic hasn't advanced all that much either. I mean in 6000 years...

To give perspective, 6000 years ago, there were cities, but they were so primitive there was almost no difference between living inside a "city" such as it was and living in stick huts out in the forest. Government, logistics and long-distance travel were unknown and nearly impossible to achieve. Essentially what I'm saying is that the author just had no concept of history and needed an impressive number.
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Old 2008-05-30, 08:51   Link #878
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Not really

Human technology has only been advancing at a rapid pace in recent years. Before then, technology never really improved quickly or rapidly.

Compare the life of a commoner living in the feudal ages with the lives of people living before then. They would have been almost similar, with only a few changes.

With society in Zero no Tsukaima revolving around magic, it would make sense that most people would be more interested in pursuing magic powers rather than set the foundations for scientific progress.

Imagine if a person from the early 1800s showed up. That person wouldn't have any technology different from what the Tristanians have already. They were still using ball shot muskets back then.

It appears that the magic wielding group of Brimir established rule over the other humans, and made it so that only members of their group can be nobles (thus the requirement to use magic rule). There doesn't appear to be any significant progress in the magic arts, so it's probably safe to assume that the land went through some dark age, and nobles were more keen on keeping their status than pursuing scientific endeavors. Only in recent times apparently do people like Colbert start showing up with magically guided arrows.

Colbert could make a killing with his new innovations.
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Old 2008-05-30, 09:08   Link #879
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One of the things mentioned by Julio in Vol 13 was that all the stuff coming from saito's world seem to be Instrument of death and those who use them. Mono planes, prop planes, even jet fighters and guns from the 1800s till late 20th century and of course tanks. A laptop could arrive but it wouldn't fit in with the theme of only weapons coming through the gates that the author set up.
There are lots of computers on the modern battlefield. It is still not inconceivable that one could make it there. Even someone's personnal computer left inside something like an APC. Anyway, what is true in the Novel may not be true in the anime. If that were so he would have his computer with him in the anime.
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Old 2008-05-30, 12:57   Link #880
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thanks serenade_beta for the preview of the 14 novel, and Darknemo2000 for the previews on baka-tsuki.
for the 14'th novel: that Pope needs a good kick in the .... .
i have to disagree with those who think that Henrietta will be the final villain boss. she sure aint a saint, but she never hold a gun at the back of her firends , like others did. she never really wanted to be a ruler, but forced by the outcome of things she is trying to be a Queen. because she is a rather weak character she will use whatever means she has avaibleto get things solved, and even bow to others that are more powerfull than her, altough she doesnt agree with them. surving as a Queen in a war thorn world isnt easy.
the novel cant end after defeating Joseph, thats clear. but the final villain could be the Pope, not Henrietta. he also wants to conquer the Holy Land, like Joseph, and he needs the Void user Jospeh, the same way he needs Saito , who he rather have shot than let go (yeah, those radical saints). thing is Joseph cant be controled as easily as Saito, so he must defeat him first (and for this he needs a full war with Galia), and than make him one of his followers. it will probably need all Void users to open that Gate to the "Holy Land", like Brimir did before and than that catastrophe happend. so , probably there will be more than just one new novel.
i wonder if we will get to see novel 14 in the 3'rd season of the anime, if so, i hope the battle with the Jormungants wont last only 5 minutes. 4'th season anyone?
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