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Old 2008-06-13, 03:12   Link #261
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Just finished watching Clannad, must definitely add it to the saddest anime list. Made me cry more than once. And it's wasn't just the ending, the anime in general was depressing. A very good anime!
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Old 2008-06-13, 13:31   Link #262
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Just finished watching Clannad, must definitely add it to the saddest anime list. Made me cry more than once. And it's wasn't just the ending, the anime in general was depressing. A very good anime!
...have you seen Kanon 2006?
While it's not the most depressing anime ever, it's similar to Clannad, except sadder.

Clannad is probably the funniest and lighthearted Key adaptation, and it handled comedy much better than it handled drama.

I've probably posted my list a few times here, but I'll add Tsuiokuhen.
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Old 2008-06-13, 19:41   Link #263
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...have you seen Kanon 2006?
While it's not the most depressing anime ever, it's similar to Clannad, except sadder.

Clannad is probably the funniest and lighthearted Key adaptation, and it handled comedy much better than it handled drama.

I've probably posted my list a few times here, but I'll add Tsuiokuhen.
No, I haven't seen Kanon yet, but I will. It's just for the animes I have seen Clannad was the most depressing. If Kanon is in fact more dramatic than Clannad, Iíll have to check it out. But I like how well the comedy was in Clannad.
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Old 2008-06-14, 12:43   Link #264
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Old 2008-06-14, 12:46   Link #265
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Gungrave.

The instant Harry Mac Dowell succumb to his own ambition, you could only witness, powerless, the slow, long and painfull tragedy that is played out all over the series; until its final conclusion that left you mentally and emotionally drained.
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Old 2008-06-14, 13:20   Link #266
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AIR by far. a real tear jerker
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Old 2008-06-14, 16:47   Link #267
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I don't go for sad anime so I'd just have to say Aishiteruze Baby. I'm pretty sure it is one of the only animes that has made me cry a little.
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Old 2008-06-14, 23:03   Link #268
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I find most of the drama romance animes sad.... but the only one that affected me the most was Fate Stay Night.

Everything was ok and fun to watch until the ending arrived..... suddenly i felt this hole in my chest and coudnt concentrate on anything else for a long time. hmm.. maybe it wasnt that serious but it did affect me and left me with a bitter taste.

Other than FSN... Air, Saikano, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien made my eyes watery many times.
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Old 2008-06-15, 01:41   Link #269
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no one beats FSN and Shingetsutan Tsukihime
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Old 2008-06-17, 12:07   Link #270
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But I haven't seen Grave of the Fireflies yet... So there may be a new entry from me soon...

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Old 2008-06-17, 12:21   Link #271
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I found Gunslinger Girl quite sad and depressing but is a favourite of mine.
Elfen Lied was quite upsetting in some places, although it is still another one of my favourites.
The ending to Gungrave was sad.

But the overall winner for me has to be Chrno Crusade! The ending to that was immensely upsetting and was the closest programme ever to almost making me cry.

The final episode to Azumanga Daioh was quite sad too.
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Old 2008-06-17, 16:11   Link #272
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By "sadness" it seems like there's a few definitions of this. IMO something like Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien I found to be filled with tons of melodrama to the point where I was holding my breath while watching each episode. But, after watching the series, I didn't really think the series was all that "impactful". Although the series was depressing and evoked some tears, it seemed like the series put in loads and loads of drama as a device to keep the viewer "entertained" sort of like a shonen anime has loads and loads of fight sequences just to keep the viewer "entertained"(This is just my opinion, don't take it personally, feel free to discuss though).

You also have Air and Clannad which in each series, made me cry more than Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien. But in the case of Clannad, at least for the first season, even though I cried more, all the sad scenes were so Beautiful. after watching and reflecting, I thought I wasn't crying because I was depressed or "sad", I felt I was crying because I was so moved by the power of the scenes and the connection I felt to the characters. I thought the scenes were so beautiful, I got a bit overwhelmed. For Air, it's similar to Clannad, in that all the sad scenes were portrayed as something "beautiful" (sorry for lack of a better word, I'm short on time here), however they were different from Clannad(season 1, again) because I thought at the base level, the scenes were much more sad, the scenes themselves were sad, even though how they were portrayed was done in a "Artistic" way. However, I thought in Air the sadness had more depth, not to take away anything from a romance like in Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, it seems like the relationship between Misuzu and her "Okaasan" was more developed and hit at me much stronger. There was a more lasting impact, that's what I think at this time.
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Old 2008-06-18, 02:46   Link #273
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^I'd actually put stuff like Air, Kanon, Clannad (all Key adaptations I see), and KGNE in the same category of "tragedy porn," but that's just me.

I'm not a cold guy, in fact I'm pretty weak, so I felt sad when tearjerker moments demanded me to; but in the end I feel a little cheated. "Tragedy porn" is a horrible thing: it makes me sad and not necessarily for a meaning. And it's not just the moeblob tragedies that are guilty of this: so-called "classics" like some of the World Masterpiece Theater pieces are even worse; far, far worse. That show with Nello and the dog anyone? Let's throw the harsh, cruel world at the poor children and see how many Victorian tears will be shed!

Similarly, I utterly dislike the climax endings of many (semi-)action anime. It's like the writers come and say: "It's the end! Time to puff up the angst per the workshop's writing formula!"

Puffed up my ass, how did this fluffy thing get so f'ing serious!?

Ex: Inukami, Shana, etc.

Personally though, I sniffled at the end of Honey and Clover (2). Unlike straightforward tragedies and overly complicated romances, I felt sadder in this show and much longer when the angst hits. Good times, bad times -- they all make us closer, even fictional characters and audiences; and my feelings were much more genuine because I felt these connections to be much more real and meaningful. When the gang parted way, well, I had to say goodbye to these friendly people too, and it was a quite bittersweet feeling.
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Old 2008-06-18, 04:56   Link #274
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^I'd actually put stuff like Air, Kanon, Clannad (all Key adaptations I see), and KGNE in the same category of "tragedy porn," but that's just me.

I'm not a cold guy, in fact I'm pretty weak, so I felt sad when tearjerker moments demanded me to; but in the end I feel a little cheated. "Tragedy porn" is a horrible thing: it makes me sad and not necessarily for a meaning.

Please don't take this too harsh, but if you didn't find any meaning in many of the tearjerker moments, I don't think you're thinking hard enough. E.G. just take either Fuko or Kotomi's arc from Clannad, the theme of either arc was to show the importance of filial love and that filial love transcends the world a person is able to see(I'm sure you could find much more meaning too, but you have to think about it.) For me, part of the reason why I watch Anime, and for me to call it a good Anime, is for it to stimulate me intellectually, to make me think why such a scene happened. Many of these so-called scenes are indeed tearjerker moments, but they come with a lot of meaning.

But, I do agree with you that some programs exist which serve only to evoke tears from the viewer, although I would not use such a sadistic term as you to describe them. I think KGNE had a few of these scenes, which is why I did not like it as much as some of the other titles aforementioned. The thing is, once I finish watching such a scene, I'm able to recognize it later, and it leaves no lasting impact on me, and I don't like the anime anymore because of it(Maybe i dislike it even). This isn't to say KGNE didn't have any meaning, I felt it did on the contrary, I felt there was enough to rewatch it right after watching it. But I felt that some scenes were overtly melodramatic, to appeal to those who like drama for the sake of drama.
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Old 2008-06-18, 05:07   Link #275
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Please don't take this too harsh, but if you didn't find any meaning in many of the tearjerker moments, I don't think you're thinking hard enough. E.G. just take either Fuko or Kotomi's arc from Clannad, the theme of either arc was to show the importance of filial love and that filial love transcends the world a person is able to see(I'm sure you could find much more meaning too, but you have to think about it.) For me, part of the reason why I watch Anime, and for me to call it a good Anime, is for it to stimulate me intellectually, to make me think why such a scene happened. Many of these so-called scenes are indeed tearjerker moments, but they come with a lot of meaning.
That depends, really. For example, to me, Fuko's arc was completely touching and made me cry manly tears. However, Kotomi's arc had a "whatever" effect on me and I just didn't connect with it. The same can be said for Makoto's arc. I didn't like it at all. I see where this is going though. You may argue that Fuko's arc is meaningful, but you can't really apply it to anything relevant in real life, and that might be what Irenicus is getting at. In short, they may tackle things that some may connect with (unfortunately I don't have a sister), but for others who are less "emotional," their meaning of "meaningful" may be completely different. They might find anime such as Now and Then, Here and There or 5 Centimeters per Second to be more meaningful.

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But, I do agree with you that some programs exist which serve only to evoke tears from the viewer, although I would not use such a sadistic term as you to describe them. I think KGNE had a few of these scenes, which is why I did not like it as much as some of the other titles aforementioned. The thing is, once I finish watching such a scene, I'm able to recognize it later, and it leaves no lasting impact on me, and I don't like the anime anymore because of it(Maybe i dislike it even). This isn't to say KGNE didn't have any meaning, I felt it did on the contrary, I felt there was enough to rewatch it right after watching it. But I felt that some scenes were overtly melodramatic, to appeal to those who like drama for the sake of drama.
Yeah you're kinda right about that. However, they're overly melodramatic to be unique, I think, and I appreciate that. Even if it's just for the "shocking value," KgNE is definitely tragic without a lot of meaning, except for the one topic (be_____l) that everyone seems to disagree on. But in defense, I will say that I thought 14 episodes was perfect, and I'm so glad it didn't go to 24-26. And now we come back to how we have different meanings for meaningful. I have and can re-watch a certain scene in episode 14 and it will have the same impact on me every time. I do agree that episodes 3-13 could be a bit more condensed.

(Air is #6 and Kimi ga Nozomu Eien is #3 on my list. They are both rated 9 and 10 respectively.)
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Old 2008-06-18, 14:31   Link #276
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"This short but touching flash animation from Yamaha features the last few minutes of the life of a young girl as she walks to school early one morning in the town of Hiroshima. There is a real sense of drama in this animation."

I do think the flash would be so much better without the edited parts (notice the cat when the music suddenly stops).
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Old 2008-06-19, 13:08   Link #277
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Top of the list is the classic Grave of the Fireflies for me.
Saikano was pretty sad and Makoto Shinkai's films (Voices of a Distant Star, 5 Centimeters per Second).
Alien Nine was sad until I read the manga which carried on where the anime left off.

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Old 2008-06-19, 20:03   Link #278
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That depends, really. For example, to me, Fuko's arc was completely touching and made me cry manly tears. However, Kotomi's arc had a "whatever" effect on me and I just didn't connect with it. The same can be said for Makoto's arc. I didn't like it at all. I see where this is going though. You may argue that Fuko's arc is meaningful, but you can't really apply it to anything relevant in real life, and that might be what Irenicus is getting at. In short, they may tackle things that some may connect with (unfortunately I don't have a sister), but for others who are less "emotional," their meaning of "meaningful" may be completely different. They might find anime such as Now and Then, Here and There or 5 Centimeters per Second to be more meaningful.


Well, I don't have a sister either, but I think since a great deal of the first 9 episodes is devoted to showing what kind of person Fuko is, what she's like to be around, and what it's like to be a friend of hers, it's not necessary for us to have a completely similar experience in our lives to relate with what the characters are going through. Now with relevance to real life, if by that you mean, none of us will ever go through the exact same experience as Kouko-san did(Fuko's Older Sister), then I would tend to agree with you.

But saying that absolutely no one can watch Fuko's arc and not be able to take anything away from that and have a practical use in real life, is wrong. And, there does seem to be many ways of defining meaning. You might have a very clear meaning, like in Kouko-san's case, not to hold back on your own happiness or put your life on hold, because of guilt(Which is the type of meaning I think you're talking about in 5 cm/second? Where the characters go through a very specific experience that many people have had similar experiences with.) And then you may have a more broader meaning, which I think is a message that is able to reach more people. Sort of like a mantra, in Fuko's case, you could say one of the mantras would be to "Be persistent, and your feelings will get through" . I think something like that has a very practical use in real life when we feel like something isn't giving us any results or that we're not moving a centimeter closer to our goal . I think either meaning of meaningful is meaningful.
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Old 2008-06-19, 20:28   Link #279
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I would have to say the most tragic anime I have seen is Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora,
I guarantee even if you are the stoniest person alive this anime will have some effect on you, it's a very bittersweet story.
If you haven't seen it, go watch it!

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Old 2008-06-20, 18:10   Link #280
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I don't think that it's the absolute saddest, bust the end of Hitsuji no Uta was sad, didn't make me cry though.

no, the worst for me i would say if School Days, very sad and made me fear for my life a little. if a busty girls gets obsessed over you after you break up with her, stop doing it for a while, just to be safe.
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