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Old 2008-06-22, 14:52   Link #1861
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No one knows she's the one who pulled the trigger aside from her, Lelouch, and the OoBK. There was no mention of anyone knowing that she's the one who did it. For what is known, she is responsible for the deaths of a large sum of soldiers through battle, nothing more, really.
She was therein Gurren, that is proof enough for them is it not?
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Old 2008-06-22, 14:54   Link #1862
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She was therein Gurren, that is proof enough for them is it not?
I do not believe any one knew what caused the landslide aside from explosives.
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Old 2008-06-22, 14:59   Link #1863
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I do not believe any one knew what caused the landslide aside from explosives.
facepalm. OoBK caused it. She is part of it. The mech she is known to pilot and was captured in was there. I mean, come on, you guys connect dots on impossible things but you argue with such a clear situation?
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Old 2008-06-22, 15:06   Link #1864
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facepalm. OoBK caused it. She is part of it. The mech she is known to pilot and was captured in was there. I mean, come on, you guys connect dots on impossible things but you argue with such a clear situation?
Yes, the OoBK caused it. So did the other 100+ members that had been detained for over a year after the Black Rebellion and were only going to be executed to lure out Zero. I'm not saying they don't know she did it, I'm saying the severity of it is not the same as regicide. Especially not when she was quite confidant about being let go with just a slap on the wrist. Even if her situation is far deeper now, her sentence will be affected by her status.
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Old 2008-06-22, 15:08   Link #1865
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Uh yeah I don't think that Nartia thing is going to factor anything in the future...
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Old 2008-06-22, 15:09   Link #1866
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facepalm. OoBK caused it. She is part of it. The mech she is known to pilot and was captured in was there. I mean, come on, you guys connect dots on impossible things but you argue with such a clear situation?
Especially if they did an investigation they'd definitely be able to trace the cause.
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Old 2008-06-22, 15:10   Link #1867
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Yes, the OoBK caused it. So did the other 100+ members that had been detained for over a year after the Black Rebellion and were only going to be executed to lure out Zero. I'm not saying they don't know she did it, I'm saying the severity of it is not the same as regicide. Especially not when she was quite confidant about being let go with just a slap on the wrist. Even if her situation is far deeper now, her sentence will be affected by her status.
We were talking about how all her crimes can equal the regicide of Suzaku not this single one <_< Of course she'll get the minimum or a flashy rescue because it's sucha story, but the possibility for her to get the big one are there. Her status could be completely ignored if they choose to do so, yet again it won't happen to a main char like her.
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Old 2008-06-22, 15:19   Link #1868
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We were talking about how all her crimes can equal the regicide of Suzaku not this single one <_< Of course she'll get the minimum or a flashy rescue because it's sucha story, but the possibility for her to get the big one are there. Her status could be completely ignored if they choose to do so, yet again it won't happen to a main char like her.
My point was the Britannia didn't seem to do more than bat an eye at the minor things. Its a Darwinian Society, the weak die, that's part of their culture, as such they don't seem to regard simple soldier loss as that great of a loss. I don't know how they would add up as its not been shown, but the rest of my paragraph-thing, was that her status will really diminish the chance for a 'big one'. Where as Suzaku was beaten senseless for regicide and I doubt that status would have helped at that point.

Kallen seemed quite confidant that even if she was arrested as a terrorist she's only get a slap on the wrist. She's probably killed plenty of people even at that early point at the begining of S1.
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Old 2008-06-22, 15:34   Link #1869
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That's also assuming she will be turned in to the regular Britannian prison system as a regular prisoner rather than be implimented into Charles and or Schniziel's plan. It's not like they are just gonna throw her in the regular jail. She's been caught by the elites. They'd no doubt have other use for her.
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Old 2008-06-22, 15:59   Link #1870
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My point was the Britannia didn't seem to do more than bat an eye at the minor things. Its a Darwinian Society, the weak die, that's part of their culture, as such they don't seem to regard simple soldier loss as that great of a loss. I don't know how they would add up as its not been shown, but the rest of my paragraph-thing, was that her status will really diminish the chance for a 'big one'. Where as Suzaku was beaten senseless for regicide and I doubt that status would have helped at that point.

Kallen seemed quite confidant that even if she was arrested as a terrorist she's only get a slap on the wrist. She's probably killed plenty of people even at that early point at the begining of S1.
All I have to say on it, is that if Suzaku does take Kallen to the Emperor then he becomes the final villain to me, no matter what direction the story takes.
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Old 2008-06-22, 16:12   Link #1871
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All I have to say on it, is that if Suzaku does take Kallen to the Emperor then he becomes the final villain to me, no matter what direction the story takes.
look at his eyes in both scenes when she's around
there's nothing there
no remorse no pity no nothing
hes already there
and looking down on a defeated opponent might not be nice but its excepable
looking down on a defeated opponent who you didnt defeat yourself is unexceptable to anyone but villans
for most fighters of any kind be it pilots or martial artists honur would demand a rematch (even most mecha anime villans seem to get that right)
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Old 2008-06-22, 16:37   Link #1872
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He did warn her it would happen eventually and tell her to leave the order repeatedly. Kinda like "I told you so"
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Old 2008-06-22, 16:40   Link #1873
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All I have to say on it, is that if Suzaku does take Kallen to the Emperor then he becomes the final villain to me, no matter what direction the story takes.
It doesn't really matter how you think, you aren't the writer. To the directors, 1 viewer is nothing. Sorry if it sounds offensive.

@Aqua: I totally forgot about that. "heh, told you so." now if only Suzaku give Kallen a little head shot to finish the job...
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Old 2008-06-22, 16:47   Link #1874
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Well thats kinda mean. Then she'd be dead. And I would stop watching.
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Old 2008-06-22, 17:06   Link #1875
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You know, with all the hate for Suzaku in here you'd think the thread about him wouldn't be the most popular of all the characters.

All his character is doing is making the show more interesting or else you wouldn't be talking so much about what he does now would you?

And exactly how should Kallen be treated? Like a queen? wanna give her the keys to the Lancelot while you're at it?
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Old 2008-06-22, 17:08   Link #1876
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You know, with all the hate for Suzaku in here you'd think the thread about him wouldn't be the most popular of all the characters.

All his character is doing is making the show more interesting or else you wouldn't be talking so much about what he does now would you?

And exactly how should Kallen be treated? Like a queen? wanna give her the keys to the Lancelot while you're at it?
Nicely said

PoW's almost never get special Treatment, see R2 Ep 1 in that case of The BK getting beat up in prison.
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Old 2008-06-22, 17:14   Link #1877
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You know, with all the hate for Suzaku in here you'd think the thread about him wouldn't be the most popular of all the characters.

All his character is doing is making the show more interesting or else you wouldn't be talking so much about what he does now would you?

And exactly how should Kallen be treated? Like a queen? wanna give her the keys to the Lancelot while you're at it?
I would laugh if that had happened.

*imagines seeing Kallen in Lancelot*
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Old 2008-06-22, 17:17   Link #1878
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It doesn't really matter how you think, you aren't the writer. To the directors, 1 viewer is nothing. Sorry if it sounds offensive.
You did notice I said to me, this is just my opinion. Try reading a post before slamming it. Not to sound offensive.
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Old 2008-06-22, 17:21   Link #1879
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You know, with all the hate for Suzaku in here you'd think the thread about him wouldn't be the most popular of all the characters.
[begin joke]It's a Rush Limbagh situation. Conservatives who like him tune in for fifteen-twenty minutes a couple times a week, nod to what they agree with, and then go on with their lives. Liberals who hate him insist on listening to the whole thing daily.[/end joke]


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And exactly how should Kallen be treated? Like a queen? wanna give her the keys to the Lancelot while you're at it?
Well clearly, because Suzaku is such a moron dontchaknow, Suzaku should be offering her a chance to leave the Black Knights and join his side as his love slave, er, padawan, uh, whatever she would do. Princy will let her pilot the Gurren for Britannia while holding her mother hostage, giving us one or two episodes of convolted Lulu/Kallen angst before he brilliantly rescues her mother and she shockingly betrays Britannia and jumps onto Lelouch.

In bed. With C.C., Milly, and Suzaku's cousin. And the Chinese empress. And any other female in the cast.

And then Suzkau shall curb stomp a puppy, just to remind the fanbase how evil he is.



Did I miss anything?
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Old 2008-06-22, 17:21   Link #1880
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Ahh too busy with real life to follow what's been going on here since my last post, but after watching Turn 11, Suzaku has just proven to us without even the tiniest bit of doubt that he has lost it. Suzaku no longer has any way to redeem himself.

Zero + OBK FTW!!!
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