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Old 2008-06-24, 14:48   Link #14261
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Well, as Koshimizu pointed out your subs are a bit whack, and from the correct wording Lelouch was speaking purely about the advantage Rolo gives him in general, not specifically all his abilities which I pointed out were illustrated in his profile report to include proficiency in fire-arms, knives, explosives, etc etc. (which Lelouch does not let Rolo use anyway so that might explain his meaning about his use to him) because even with his Geass its kind of worthless as a tool for assassination unless you actually have the capability to assassinate people in the first place >_>
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Old 2008-06-24, 14:54   Link #14262
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Well, as Koshimizu pointed out your subs are a bit whack, and from the correct wording Lelouch was speaking purely about the advantage Rolo gives him in general, not specifically all his abilities which I pointed out were illustrated in his profile report to include proficiency in fire-arms, knives, explosives, etc etc. (which Lelouch does not let Rolo use anyway so that might explain his meaning about his use to him) because even with his Geass its kind of worthless as a tool for assassination unless you actually have the capability to assassinate people in the first place >_>
Even still, that Geass is probably the only thing going for him when it comes to going up against a trained soldier with various enhancements. Also, Knightmare Frame piloting? Don't make me laugh. As good as the Vincent is, its nothing compared to the Siegfried. Gawain was the only one that could last against it, and even then it couldn't do any damage, not even cosmetic damage.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:02   Link #14263
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I don't think the GEASS would work on Orange anyway. He was fixed up using CC's cells and data and whatnot. I'd more likely believe him immune to GEASS then having a GEASS of his own.

Rolo might be able to put up a fight, but it's a losing battle.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:02   Link #14264
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I don't think the GEASS would work on Orange anyway. He was fixed up using CC's cells and data and whatnot. I'd more likely believe him immune to GEASS then having a GEASS of his own.

Rolo might be able to put up a fight, but it's a losing battle.
That's what I was saying earlier.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:03   Link #14265
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:06   Link #14266
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Even still, that Geass is probably the only thing going for him when it comes to going up against a trained soldier with various enhancements. Also, Knightmare Frame piloting? Don't make me laugh. As good as the Vincent is, its nothing compared to the Siegfried. Gawain was the only one that could last against it, and even then it couldn't do any damage, not even cosmetic damage.
Assassin versus soldier, Vincent versus Siegfried. I say we see how this plays out before we make any rash judgments, I have faith in Rolo to at least hold its own. Plus as cool as Gawain was Lelouch and C.C. were not as proficient pilots. I believe Rolo to be a step above in that category so if he and Orange-kun should duke it out I think we'll be in for an interesting match up no matter the result
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:11   Link #14267
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Koshimizu's a Girl o.O dam I really should've guessed that...I suck at guessing genders on forums.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:13   Link #14268
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They said they made him like C.C. so if he is like her, Geass won't work on him. Then how will Rolo fight him? Without Geass? But that's not as much fun, and Orange would easily win then...

What exactly did they mean when they said they tried to recreate C.C.'s powers? Why do they want to recreate her powers? So that he is immune to Geass? Is that the only reason? If he is only immune to Geass what's the difference between him and any other person Lelou has used his Geass on once? I guess, Rolo's power would be useless then. I wonder if he will have any other power...
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:14   Link #14269
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They said that they tried to replicate her powers. Immunity to geass would make sense then and perhaps even some regenerative abilities.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:19   Link #14270
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Continuing about the forthcoming mech battle, Siegfried is too broken for Rolo. It's controlled neurally, got fortress defense, has a spin more hax than spinzaku's, and despite its size, can dodge cannon blasts at point blank range. We dunno if it has been upgraded or not either.

Vincent has the power elbow blow, and assuming it is strong enough, i could see Rolo pulling a desperation latch on and strike to de-commission the Sieg, but seriously, Rolo is at a huge disadvangtage.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:25   Link #14271
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I wouldn't be surprised if it has been upgraded. It has to have some weakness though.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it has been upgraded. It has to have some weakness though.
I think I know of its weakness, though unlikely.

Siegfried is controlled entirely by the mental capacities of its pilot. Disrupt the pilot's mental capacity somehow and you'd have an advantage.

In that regard, Mao would be an EXCELLENT opponent for the Siegfried. Too bad C.C. splattered his brains across the pavement. (that was a jest, I know she aimed at the neck, not the head).
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:28   Link #14273
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Aiming for the neck is something a lot of people tend to do in CG...an odd habit.
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I think I know of its weakness, though unlikely.

Siegfried is controlled entirely by the mental capacities of its pilot. Disrupt the pilot's mental capacity somehow and you'd have an advantage.

In that regard, Mao would be an EXCELLENT opponent for the Siegfried. Too bad C.C. splattered his brains across the pavement. (that was a jest, I know she aimed at the neck, not the head).
Isn't Jeremiah immune or something to Geass though, which is what you argued about concerning Rolo? >_>
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:29   Link #14275
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Isn't Jeremiah immune or something to Geass though, which is what you argued about concerning Rolo? >_>
Yeah, I know. That, however, hasn't been proven yet. We won't really find out until he appears again and Geass is attempted against him.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:36   Link #14276
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Yeah, I know. That, however, hasn't been proven yet. We won't really find out until he appears again and Geass is attempted against him.
Well, should be good anyway. Looking forward to it myself now
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:39   Link #14277
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I think I know of its weakness, though unlikely.

Siegfried is controlled entirely by the mental capacities of its pilot. Disrupt the pilot's mental capacity somehow and you'd have an advantage.

In that regard, Mao would be an EXCELLENT opponent for the Siegfried. Too bad C.C. splattered his brains across the pavement. (that was a jest, I know she aimed at the neck, not the head).
If you could overload it or something while it's connected to Jeremiah, then that could cause something like what you described. Of course, this would probably be very hard to accomplish. It has very good shields for the most part and I think Jeremiah is much more accumstomed to his body now then he was a year ago.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:44   Link #14278
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It'll be a good fight for sure. Let's just hope that Rolo doesn't follow Lelouch's example in ep 11, ala busting out "THE POWER OF HEART!" to defeat Siegfried. I don't know if I would survive the facepalm I give myself if that happens.

Also I don't want it to become a shielding extravaganza like ep 11. I didn't particularly enjoy the fighting in that ep since all the attacks against KoR/Zangetsu/Akatsuki weren't really doing anything.
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Eh, it'll be a good old slugfest. Rolo and Jeremiah excel at doing what they do- being soldiers. No 'power of the heart' stuff here.
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Old 2008-06-24, 15:48   Link #14280
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Well, if Rolo's Geass doesn't work, this will be hard for him. He is a good pilot otherwise though, but his Geass is what gives him an edge.
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