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Old 2008-07-02, 08:46   Link #2001
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There's a fate worse than her being minwiped and going up against Lulu and all her old friends in the Order?
Yes. That will be "being mindwiped, going up against Lulu and the BKs, being captured and had the Geass cancelled". Man, I think she'll bite her tongue off.
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Old 2008-07-02, 08:48   Link #2002
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Well, really, her Geass being cancelled won't be as bad as Shirley's by any means...since all Lelouch used it on her for was to find out who she was. Still, assuming she doesn't get mindwiped, she'll still be more than simply mad at him.
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Old 2008-07-02, 08:51   Link #2003
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he did promise her that her feelings were her own
its a way to for her to confirm that
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Old 2008-07-02, 08:52   Link #2004
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Well, really, her Geass being cancelled won't be as bad as Shirley's by any means...since all Lelouch used it on her for was to find out who she was. Still, assuming she doesn't get mindwiped, she'll still be more than simply mad at him.
I was talking about Charles's Geass, which was used during the "mindwipe" part.
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Old 2008-07-02, 08:54   Link #2005
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Well, really, her Geass being cancelled won't be as bad as Shirley's by any means...since all Lelouch used it on her for was to find out who she was. Still, assuming she doesn't get mindwiped, she'll still be more than simply mad at him.
Mad at Lelouch? I wouldn't quite say so. and afte rall, she only asked if he had used Geass on her to "twist her heart and feelings to his will", which he said that he hadn't - but he didn't say that he had already used it on her, nor did she ask...
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Old 2008-07-02, 08:58   Link #2006
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I was talking about Charles's Geass, which was used during the "mindwipe" part.
Yes a case of "holy shit i've now realised i've killed half of my old comrades and have working for the bastards who killed my brother".

Woe to Sunrise if they take this path, the KDF will not forgive you.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:00   Link #2007
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Mad at Lelouch? I wouldn't quite say so. and afte rall, she only asked if he had used Geass on her to "twist her heart and feelings to his will", which he said that he hadn't - but he didn't say that he had already used it on her, nor did she ask...
Right, if the geass canceler was used on her then all she would remember is that Lelouch used his geass to ask about her past. She may be a bit miffed about having her personal life revealed to him without her consent but he found out about her mother pretty soon after anyways.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:02   Link #2008
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Yes a case of "holy shit i've now realised i've killed half of my old comrades and have working for the bastards who killed my brother".

Woe to Sunrise if they take this path, the KDF will not forgive you.
In a way, it was better that they showed it now, rather than in S1. I can imagine the EDF burning down Sunrise, after Euphie turned the gun on herself.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:27   Link #2009
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I don't think we can rule out mindwipe yet. The Nunnally and Kallen meeting might just be a brief one, basically to let Kallen tell Nunnally about Lelouch. After that is done, Kallen is shipped off to Charles.

If they really want to mess with Lelouch, they could have her Mindwiped and have Lelouch due to his anger for Oranji part in
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kill Orangji, the only one who could return Kallen back to normal.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:29   Link #2010
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I don't think we can rule out mindwipe yet. The Nunnally and Kallen meeting might just be a brief one, basically to let Kallen tell Nunnally about Lelouch. After that is done, Kallen is shipped off to Charles.

If they really want to mess with Lelouch, they could have her Mindwiped and have Lelouch due to his anger for Oranji part in
Spoiler for Shirley:
kill Orangji, the only one who could return Kallen back to normal.
This is quite distressing (Talk about false dawn). By letting the girls meet, Kallen will very likely drop her guard. Then, in front of Charles....

Then, as Orenji-jiji dies, Kallen will become the ace of her former enemies, restored to her other name, and becomes a noblewoman.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:29   Link #2011
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I don't think we can rule out mindwipe yet. The Nunnally and Kallen meeting might just be a brief one, basically to let Kallen tell Nunnally about Lelouch. After that is done, Kallen is shipped off to Charles.

If they really want to mess with Lelouch, they could have her Mindwiped and have Lelouch due to his anger for Oranji part in
Spoiler for Shirley:
kill Orangji, the only one who could return Kallen back to normal.
C.C. can undo a mindwipe. All hope is not lost.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:30   Link #2012
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C.C. can undo a mindwipe. All hope is not lost.
That will require a re-capture, and that scenario we discussed earlier....

I need to lie down.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:32   Link #2013
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I don't think we can rule out mindwipe yet. The Nunnally and Kallen meeting might just be a brief one, basically to let Kallen tell Nunnally about Lelouch. After that is done, Kallen is shipped off to Charles.
Well, I did say that it still isn't an impossible scenario. Still, I do think that we can consider her to be safe and in Nunnally's care for the time being (Nunnally appearing before Kallen defintively deceased the chance of this scenario happening), unless later episodes shows otherwise...

It would really be a way for them to mess with Lulu though...
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:32   Link #2014
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C.C. can undo a mindwipe. All hope is not lost.
So she does need a kiss first? I guess I'm still confused about that, or nobody knows for sure.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:32   Link #2015
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C.C. can undo a mindwipe. All hope is not lost.
Not unless she performs a "quicksave" la Stage 25 before the mindwipe takes place, I'd like to think.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:34   Link #2016
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It would really be a way for them to mess with Lulu though...
Not to mention Kallen herself.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:34   Link #2017
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Not unless she performs a "quicksave" la Stage 25 before the mindwipe takes place, I'd like to think.
Lulu remembered what had happened after she kissed him though right up until he got mindwiped.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:37   Link #2018
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Lulu remembered what had happened after she kissed him though right up until he got mindwiped.
Ah that is true, just wonder if it was a plot mistake.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:40   Link #2019
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as i said earlyer, C.C. can undo if she kisses someone before the geass effect. At least i think so. Maybie there is something more complicated, C.C. has some sense of pride, she wouldn't just kiss a girl.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:41   Link #2020
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Ah that is true, just wonder if it was a plot mistake.
They probably just changed there minds. If he hadn't of remembered what had happened we would've had to wait until Suzaku or the Emp revealed what went on.
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