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Old 2008-07-02, 22:19   Link #2101
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I meant taking governorship of Area 11. He can easily get access to Kallen if he needed too, as he seems to have a substantial amount of power/say unlike the other KoR.
Well the governor of Area 11 does have jurisdiction over the Black Knights. It would be easier to ensure that Kallen survives if he was governor rather then an outsider acting on his own authority.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:21   Link #2102
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Probably explains why Kallen is so damn good at piloting herself.
Right, except that is flawed. Here is why. Lelouch is a terrible pilot and his mother was considered an amazing pilot. Just because you have a parent that is good at something doesn't make the child just as good. So that has nothing to do with anything.

I still think you guys are stretching things way too far and are thinking way too deeply into something that will probably be simple. Didn't everyone get cut down to size when all that speculation on Kallen's capture turned out to be a most simple thing that hardly anybody thought of?
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:22   Link #2103
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Well the governor of Area 11 does have jurisdiction over the Black Knights. It would be easier to ensure that Kallen survives if he was governor rather then an outsider acting on his own authority.
The way Kallen's existance has been presented, I've gained the feeling that her father did everything to 'erase' her other blood-line from the records. Not to mention that having dual identities within the same area is far more difficult than having them on two seperate continents.

So while it would seem logical from a normal standpoint, I don't think he'd be able to given his attempt to hide his daughter.

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Right, except that is flawed. Here is why. Lelouch is a terrible pilot and his mother was considered an amazing pilot. Just because you have a parent that is good at something doesn't make the child just as good. So that has nothing to do with anything.

I still think you guys are stretching things way too far and are thinking way too deeply into something that will probably be simple. Didn't everyone get cut down to size when all that speculation on Kallen's capture turned out to be a most simple thing that hardly anybody thought of?
I really wouldn't call this deep thought. This is tossing around simple, harmless ideas.

As for inheritance, not all people inherit skills from their parents, while others 'appear' to inherit abilities or likings for certain things from their parents. Hence 'like father like son'.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:22   Link #2104
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Ok, I should have said, "A coincidence that Kallen is such a good pilot."

Yes, the speculation is wild, but logically, I am pretty convinced. May not be true in the end.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:23   Link #2105
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Suzaku has been explained to have gained supernatural abilities... so your counter argument failed.
So has Kallen's father being the KOO since it doesn't even seem to make sense to begin with, it's like you made Gino's comment in episode 6 go out of control
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:23   Link #2106
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Right, except that is flawed. Here is why. Lelouch is a terrible pilot and his mother was considered an amazing pilot. Just because you have a parent that is good at something doesn't make the child just as good. So that has nothing to do with anything.

I still think you guys are stretching things way too far and are thinking way too deeply into something that will probably be simple. Didn't everyone get cut down to size when all that speculation on Kallen's capture turned out to be a most simple thing that hardly anybody thought of?
Wasn't Charles himself also a great pilot? He was a knight with Marianne right? So if that is true then Lelouch should be some piloting prodigy.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:24   Link #2107
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So has Kallen's father being the KOO since it doesn't even seem to make sense to begin with, it's like you made Gino's comment in episode 6 go out of control
Wait, what? Could you reword that as a more coherent sentece?
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:24   Link #2108
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So has Kallen's father being the KOO since it doesn't even seem to make sense to begin with, it's like you made Gino's comment in episode 6 go out of control
Doesn't make sense to the heart, but logically, it can work. Of course, the whole conspiracy theory part comes out, but that seems to suit the KoO pretty well.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:25   Link #2109
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Right, except that is flawed. Here is why. Lelouch is a terrible pilot and his mother was considered an amazing pilot. Just because you have a parent that is good at something doesn't make the child just as good. So that has nothing to do with anything.

I still think you guys are stretching things way too far and are thinking way too deeply into something that will probably be simple. Didn't everyone get cut down to size when all that speculation on Kallen's capture turned out to be a most simple thing that hardly anybody thought of?
Thank you, that's what I was trying to get at, also Charles being a good pilot, I'll see it to believe it
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Wait, what? Could you reword that as a more coherent sentece?
Gino said something in episode 6 that commented Kallen on her piloting skills being at the level of a KOR
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:29   Link #2110
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Gino said something in episode 6 that commented Kallen on her piloting skills being at the level of a KOR
That's not really where I'm getting my thoughts from. IIRC, it was said she mastered piloting in only two years.

Also, KoR level =/= KoO level. It is the only seat among the KoR which is actually comparibly different from the rest. Every other seat is just a number, where as KoO is actually a rank.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:32   Link #2111
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The way Kallen's existance has been presented, I've gained the feeling that her father did everything to 'erase' her other blood-line from the records. Not to mention that having dual identities within the same area is far more difficult than having them on two seperate continents.

So while it would seem logical from a normal standpoint, I don't think he'd be able to given his attempt to hide his daughter.
If someone was determined enough to investigate him I doubt he would be able to hide his duel identity regardless of how far he is from his family. Besides assuming he has managed to keep up his second identity of Knight of One there is no reason anyone would suspect the Emperor's own knight. Him taking Area 11 for himself could be tied to the fact that the Emperor lost four of his children in Area 11 and he is taking command to farther pacify it after the Black Rebellion or something.

I just find it hard to believe that the Empire's strongest knight and the person holding the position of Knight of One is able to keep his lineage secret when it is apparent that it is important to Britannian society for eligibility for positions of importance.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:33   Link #2112
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That's not really where I'm getting my thoughts from. IIRC, it was said she mastered piloting in only two years.

Also, KoR level =/= KoO level. It is the only seat among the KoR which is actually comparibly different from the rest. Every other seat is just a number, where as KoO is actually a rank.
Then may I ask where the hell is it? If its because they have the same colored eyes that's just plan retarded since they have been many cases in this series where characters have the same eye color and they're not related.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:34   Link #2113
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Is the KoO even known to exist by the public? Going by how Euphie was twisted, it seems pretty easy to twist the facts.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:35   Link #2114
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If someone was determined enough to investigate him I doubt he would be able to hide his duel identity regardless of how far he is from his family. Besides assuming he has managed to keep up his second identity of Knight of One there is no reason anyone would suspect the Emperor's own knight. Him taking Area 11 for himself could be tied to the fact that the Emperor lost four of his children in Area 11 and he is taking command to farther pacify it after the Black Rebellion or something.

I just find it hard to believe that the Empire's strongest knight and the person holding the position of Knight of One is able to keep his lineage secret when it is apparent that it is important to Britannian society for eligibility for positions of importance.

And this for the hundredth time we know nothing aboout Bismark to conclude that theory
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:36   Link #2115
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And this for the hundredth time we know nothing aboout Bismark to conclude that theory
We are speaking hypothetically, it is a debate for fun.
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:37   Link #2116
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You know, I seriously need to calm down a bit
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:39   Link #2117
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You know, I seriously need to calm down a bit
Yes you do, and for the record I was arguing against Var's theory...
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Old 2008-07-02, 22:40   Link #2118
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Yes you do, and for the record I was arguing against Var's theory...
We really need more info on the guy.
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Yes you do, and for the record I was arguing against Var's theory...
Oh.......
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I like how this is becoming a Bismark thread now.
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