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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 - Episode 14 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 216 | 59.18% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 84 | 23.01% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 28 | 7.67% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 15 | 4.11% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 1.37% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 0.82% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 0.55% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 3 | 0.82% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 9 | 2.47% | |
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2008-07-18, 11:26 | Link #1321 | |
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2008-07-18, 11:33 | Link #1322 | |
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Second, I'm not dismissing the possibilities. Get this through your thick skull, I never said nothing could/would happen, I said that the probability of getting what he wants is as likely as a high energy neutrino reacting with a water molecule. Or a simpler example, me catching fire while submerged in water. All I have said is that, if Suzaku is intending to use this to get information, then he is a colossal moron because asking her nicely is about as useful, if not more so. |
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2008-07-18, 11:39 | Link #1324 | |
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... the idea that a drug, which from we've established has 0.001% chance of giving Suzaku what he wants, actually does give him what he wants then this takes the cake. This is not TTGL, I don't hear any "Do the Impossible, See the Invisible RAW RAW Fight the Power!" in the background. I will not tolerate an event with such minuscule chance of happening as Suzaku intends actually happening on his first try. |
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2008-07-18, 12:03 | Link #1328 |
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Does she remember them though? It's far easier to remember more recent happy memories than happy memories from a few years ago. Also, we don't know if refrain makes you just remember a single happy memory, or sort of jumps between memories. Like, she could be reliving one happy memory for five minutes, and then jump to another happy memory.
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2008-07-18, 12:14 | Link #1329 | |
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Or he could use his brain and make use of Nunally. It is far more likely for something to slip out if Kallen is allowed to talk with Nunally about Lelouch and everything, than it is to come from drugging her. It would also be 100% more reliable. |
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You have dismissed almost every possibility that Suzaku may be using his attempt at refraining as a specific goal based essentially on your lustful hate//disgust with the character...You have called almost any possibility of a scene being crafted where he gets his info using this method as downright abonimable...The context of this show betrays all your thougts on this IMO...Even if you don't think a million people changing into Zero costumes in .5 seconds to NBA pregame smoke machines or Orange-kun's attempt at becoming the next Jason Voorhies isn't ridiculous, the probablity of refrain being somehow used on Kallen with a result consistent with CG's pension for dramatic effect is so easily plausible (and that's ignoring your previous objection to thinking you totally know everything about refrain, nevermind what Suzaku is suggesting)...But now it's just the probablity ... We are at an empasse it seems and that's fine, lol I won't back down... Quote:
I'm done...We shall see...
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2008-07-18, 12:34 | Link #1332 |
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I thought he was a genius for using Nunally to get Lelouch to drop his act earlier in R2. Because it was likely it was going to work as Nunally is the most important person to Lelouch and the shock would likely get him to reveal something.
The problem with refrain that has been mentioned to death is not that Suzaku is going to use it on Kallen. But that he thinks that it is some sort of truth serum that will get him what he wants and is justifying it as "limiting casualties". |
2008-07-18, 12:41 | Link #1333 | |
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Sorry, must go watch this episode again. And my logic is not devoid of logic. |
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2008-07-18, 13:00 | Link #1335 | |
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And it has been pointed out over and over that while the chance is not zero, it is far from reliable compared to other drugs or even alcohol. Refrain drags up old memories and allows the user to experience them again, possibly with their own fantasies and delusions mixed in. When under the influence of the drug the person is not even cognitive of his own surroundings and was shown to not even respond to gunfire or being swing in the hand of a Knightmare Frame. The chances of her experiencing a recent memory of Zero and it not being contaminated by her own fantasies are just too small to be a viable truth drug. And in Ougi's case, Villeta lost her memories or rather her brain could not access it. He was hoping that refrain would "kick start" her brain into unlocking her memories. Kallen's case is that she is not suffering from amnesia but that she won't talk. |
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2008-07-18, 13:05 | Link #1336 |
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Yes. The clever bastard. As it is, he's just an idiot. Even if under the influence, she say "Oh, Zero, you're Lelouch!" it actually won't prove anything, let alone that the present Zero is Lelouch. So why bother?
Of course, I wouldn't put him past him not to care. As long as he has some scrap of information he can delude himself into thinking is confirmation of his hunch, it may be enough for him. |
2008-07-18, 13:16 | Link #1337 | |
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2008-07-18, 13:19 | Link #1338 | |
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2008-07-18, 13:20 | Link #1339 | |
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And if you noticed that Ougi did not use it in her because of the risks involved with the drug. |
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