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View Poll Results: Potential Pairing - Multiple Choice Option
Alto x VF 171 32 12.31%
Ozma x Bobby 13 5.00%
Ranka x Sheryl 42 16.15%
Sheryl x Alto 199 76.54%
Yasaburo x Alto 5 1.92%
Ranka x Ai-kun 38 14.62%
Alto x Klan 14 5.38%
Ranka x Alto 54 20.77%
Ranka x Brera 37 14.23%
Klan x Michael 101 38.85%
Ozma x Cathy 111 42.69%
Luca x Nanase 41 15.77%
Wilder x Monica 41 15.77%
Alto x VF25 37 14.23%
Yasaburo x Alto's father 10 3.85%
Alto x Brera 18 6.92%
Grace x Ranka 12 4.62%
Nanase x Ranka 21 8.08%
Sheryl x Klan 24 9.23%
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Old 2008-07-19, 14:52   Link #1001
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Equal playing field? I don't remember her ever being interested in that.

And in that ep, they were both vying for attention. What's equality got to do with it?
Well, if you just look @ how Sheryl and Ranka's actions in ep 15 respectively, its not too difficult to see what I am talking about. Sheryl puts on a facade even though she likes the guy, while Ranka just... jumps at him.

Sheryl wants attention, but she wants it while being respected at the same time.

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Old 2008-07-19, 16:31   Link #1002
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I still don't see what any of it has to do with an "equal playing field".

As for wanting respect... I don't think anyone wants to be despised. They just have different ideas of what leads to disrespect. Ranka doesn't mind telling people she thinks they're great. Sheryl doesn't mind being seen as a sex object.
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Old 2008-07-19, 16:48   Link #1003
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I still don't see what any of it has to do with an "equal playing field".

As for wanting respect... I don't think anyone wants to be despised. They just have different ideas of what leads to disrespect. Ranka doesn't mind telling people she thinks they're great. Sheryl doesn't mind being seen as a sex object.
Actually, with the way Sheryl is dealing with Alto, she at least don't want Alto to see her merely as a sex object. Sheryl likes Alto, but she doesn't want to throw herself at her completely without Alto showing at least some form of dignity and appreciation for her. Bottom line is, Sheryl wants to love Alto on an equal playing field, with Alto showing just as much affection back.

Ranka? Well, her one-sided crush pretty much have her literally thrown herself at him

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Old 2008-07-19, 16:59   Link #1004
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Oh, you meant she wants to stand on an equal footing with Alto. You should have said. (Playing field means competition... and it's not with Alto she's competing at the moment.)
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Old 2008-07-19, 17:02   Link #1005
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Oh, you meant she wants to stand on an equal footing with Alto. You should have said. (Playing field means competition... and it's not with Alto she's competing at the moment.)
An "equal playing field" is a term for being on equal terms.

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Old 2008-07-19, 17:11   Link #1006
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If only the shippers could get along as well as Ranka and Sheryl during the duet.
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Old 2008-07-19, 19:25   Link #1007
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This has been a fascinating read, just one question here:

What is the Sheryl blog that someone is referring to? Is it something posted on the japanese macross website or fan-made?
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Old 2008-07-19, 19:26   Link #1008
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The Sheryl blog is an official Sheryl blog! Made by Macross staff.

http://ameblo.jp/sherylnome/

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Old 2008-07-19, 19:35   Link #1009
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An "equal playing field" is a term for being on equal terms.
That's true, but the phrase also implies a competition.

Love involves both coorperation and conflict. If one side is signficantly stronger than the other, they win out and dominate the relationship. But if you have two people who are willing to take each other to task, but also are also willing to set aside their differences and support each other, you have a strong relationship.

That's where the equal playing field part comes in. Sheryl is a threat, in the fact that she's a very strong person, but Alto happens to be strong enough to match her willpower; he's as much of a threat, himself. Out of that clash comes a relationship between two equals. Neither side owes the other anything, and neither side is willing to hold back any punches.

There's room for confusion here because both Sheryl and Ranka are both interested in Alto, so there's another competition here, too. What's more, the dialogue leading in to the sing off showed that neither girl was afraid to pull out any of the tricks at their disposal in order to gain the upper hand. So I wouldn't say that either is interested in a level playing field in that situation.
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Old 2008-07-19, 20:38   Link #1010
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The set up of episodes 1-15 is actually this:

-Have Ranka climb stardom high enough to appear on the Galaxy villain's radar. That wouldn't happen completely if she didn't fall in love with Alto and follow him to Galia 4. Her connection to the Vajra was also revealed from there.
-Alto (this is what the writer's wishes) have him thrown into the mix in the middle of this conspiracy. This wouldn't happen if Sheryl didn't become interested in him enough to invite him to Galia 4 and most importantly, it wouldn't happen if he didn't rescue Ranka. Everything all happened from there up to the part where Bilra wanted to see him himself.
-Sheryl -survive Galia 4 by looking for Alto, then get discarded by Grace to find a new victim of their evil plans---Ranka. Up to this point, Sheryl is more like a plot device that had a hand in setting up Ranka and Alto to get to where they are in the plot. I know I'm going to get hated again for that sentence, but getting discarded by Grace opens up a lot of possibilities for her including the character growth that she really needs. =/
It's just a simple overview of how far the characters have moved from their original points, how the stage is assembled right now. It's amazing to see Ranka come such a long way from the insecure, timid self, she's grown into a confident, singing idol whose popularity promises to skyrocket even more. Sheryl was at the top of her throne in the beginning, she seems to have it all, but now, she's slowly becoming a fallen idol. Sheryl has grown close with Alto in the beginning, but finds that Alto and Ranka has grown closer.

So now that the set-up of the stage is done, now it's time for the show to start. *sits back and eats popcorn*

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Old 2008-07-20, 19:35   Link #1011
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Title: The day you first fell in love.

Do you remember the first time you fell in love?

I am not talking about who you fell in love with or the first place when you had a date.

Do you remember the emotions you felt?

I remember them even now.

It is as if a cold, pale cold radio tower were constructed around my heart in an instant.

That tower definitely caught the different emotions and words that I experienced at the time and those things play a huge role when I am writing a song, is what I think.

You have to fall in love.

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Crosspost from MW blog thread...

Spoiler for crazy random baseless theory time:
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Old 2008-07-21, 02:38   Link #1013
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Old 2008-07-21, 02:40   Link #1014
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Title: The day you first fell in love.

Do you remember the first time you fell in love?

I am not talking about who you fell in love with or the first place when you had a date.

Do you remember the emotions you felt?

I remember them even now.

It is as if a cold, pale cold radio tower were constructed around my heart in an instant.

That tower definitely caught the different emotions and words that I experienced at the time and those things play a huge role when I am writing a song, is what I think.

You have to fall in love.

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Hmmm... so she already fell in love before? Or is she meaning that she just now noticed she fell in love? Its a bit hard to decipher.
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Old 2008-07-21, 02:57   Link #1015
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Hmmm... so she already fell in love before? Or is she meaning that she just now noticed she fell in love? Its a bit hard to decipher.
Kind of misty there indeed. sounds like a half confession to me :P
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Old 2008-07-21, 03:00   Link #1016
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Hmmm... so she already fell in love before? Or is she meaning that she just now noticed she fell in love? Its a bit hard to decipher.

Yeah, hard to tell without knowing exactly when the series started in 2059... Anyone got a Macross Frontier chronology handy?
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Old 2008-07-21, 04:07   Link #1017
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I could read this for weeks and not finish. Let me be up front and say I am from the Ranka camp. Sheryl is completely unappealing to me personally because I didn't get to see her climb to fame. It makes it harder to connect with a character, for me anyway. Plus Ranka is super cute and wears her heart on her sleeve. I don't really have any speculation for how things will pair up but I would be much more interested in a story that built on rankas feelings and Altos unwillingness to accept or be ruled by his. Anything with sheryl just seems too "Idol's new boy-toy" to me.
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Old 2008-07-21, 04:10   Link #1018
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Would January place that entry before her arrival on Frontier?
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Old 2008-07-21, 04:13   Link #1019
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Sheryl is completely unappealing to me personally because I didn't get to see her climb to fame.
Have you watched the latest episode? It looks like we'll reach that part very very soon.
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Old 2008-07-21, 04:17   Link #1020
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Would January place that entry before her arrival on Frontier?
Hmm... first time I ever noticed that the blog entries are not in sequence, but rather in random order.

So, yeah, I guess that means she was in love before, and this aint referring to Alto.
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