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Old 2008-07-26, 23:34   Link #81
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I have a question about three witches.What's their power?I guess each witch has different
power.
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Old 2008-07-27, 03:08   Link #82
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Beatrice: her power is said to make her able to kill anyone undefinitely.
Bernkastel: her power is said to make the world repeat as long as a probability exists, however unprobable/low it is.
Lambdadelta: her power is said to make her able to kill anyone without fail.

The "mechanics" in their powers works like rock paper scissors: Beatrice has the upper hand against bernkastel because Beatrice will repeat the process undefinitely due of her "limitless", which renders Berkastel powers meaningless. Bernkastel defeated lambdadelta because "without fail", absolute rule doesn't work for their world, and by repitition of the tragedies, she won in a "endurance" contest with lambdadelta.
Lambdadelta can "defeat" Beatrice as her power doesn't go in fancy fashion and she kills the target designated.
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Old 2008-07-29, 08:46   Link #83
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Yeah what Klashi said~
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Old 2008-07-29, 11:18   Link #84
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Also since Battler inherited "black blood" he has magical resistance so the Stakes and the witches' powers don't affect him.
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Old 2008-07-29, 19:46   Link #85
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But then again one may argue that Kinzo should be unaffected too. A contradiction that battler has I believe yet make.
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Old 2008-07-29, 22:00   Link #86
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Probably cause because of Battler's mom (Asumu)
We don't know about her yet, we only knew that she had died some time ago
Since like in DBZ, Saiyan X Earth > Saiyan
So Battler might have the ability that we don't know yetj

Ex) The ability of been able to point "Objection!" to everything XDDDDD
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Old 2008-07-30, 10:15   Link #87
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And the "Black Blood" SHOULD be hieritary; but seems rather rare seeing as only Battler has it and Maria is the one who is capable of using magic (Or atleast seems like she can) There's no evidence that any one else in the family has those attributes.
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Old 2008-07-30, 14:00   Link #88
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I don't know, shouldn't it be alright if Battler inherited his "Black Blood" from his mother? His biological mother is probably not an Ushiromiya, and thus, it would be logical that no one else in the family has resistance to the Stakes. Battler is the only one who is biologically related to his mom, no?

And I was under the impression that Rosa and maybe Jessica have magical abilities, but only Maria knows magic, because Beatrice taught her.

Gleh, maybe I'm missing something. I didn't do very well with reading Umineko.
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Old 2008-07-30, 14:18   Link #89
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I don't know, shouldn't it be alright if Battler inherited his "Black Blood" from his mother? His biological mother is probably not an Ushiromiya, and thus, it would be logical that no one else in the family has resistance to the Stakes. Battler is the only one who is biologically related to his mom, no?

And I was under the impression that Rosa and maybe Jessica have magical abilities, but only Maria knows magic, because Beatrice taught her.

Gleh, maybe I'm missing something. I didn't do very well with reading Umineko.
No, as in Episode 2's TIPS it says Battler inherited the "Black Blood" from Kinzo
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But maybe his mother had something to do with actually causing the genes to exist; maybe its a rare gene that can be easily overwritten by others; maybe his mom is special; who knows?
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Old 2008-08-07, 13:04   Link #91
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Old 2008-08-07, 20:58   Link #92
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His rooms looks nice, must have a great view from there.
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Old 2008-08-07, 21:57   Link #93
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Umineko can be a mindfuck if not read carefully
However, I'd favor the theory of non-magical killings
But there's still one thing which I don't get...

Spoiler for Weird:
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well there are some good reasons.

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Old 2008-08-07, 23:42   Link #95
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Well that could be

But it is still really stupid to kill everyone of them
especially since then who can find the gold?
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Old 2008-08-08, 00:48   Link #96
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Odd theory:
What if someone is trying to make it so no one can get the gold?

Thinking in terms of economy, adding that much gold to the world stocks would lower the price of gold right? Thus if the gold remains hidden, the value would increase over time. Later, assuming the killer is alive still, they could use the gold (their own or if found the families gold) to be even richer than they could at that time.

Anyone have any idea what the gold market was like in 1986?
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Old 2008-08-08, 01:01   Link #97
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ah finally finish the first 2 ep of umineko and I must say it was awesome and really confusing especially ep 2 which looks like ryukishi 07 try to mindfuck us to believe of the existence of the witch

for the reason why the killer kill them all, maybe the killer ALREADY found the whereabouts of the Gold. Maybe he try to eliminate everyone who have connection to Rokkenjima so he can get all the gold for himself
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Old 2008-08-08, 06:33   Link #98
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For Ep2 Beatrice definitely twisted the truth
That's all I can say for sure now
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Old 2008-08-08, 20:18   Link #99
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Of course, there's always a chance that the killer wasn't after the gold after all. I think that the killer is probably connected to Kinzo or Beatrice in some way (maybe he/she is another member of one of the Ushiromiya branch-families).

Otherwise, I'm pretty sure that the Beatrice in the dress, and the Beatrice in the mini-skirt are different in some way.

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Old 2008-08-08, 22:34   Link #100
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And Ryukishi07 is going to mindfuck all of us by using the sonozaki theory...
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