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Old 2008-08-18, 14:42   Link #2121
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He can go out with a legendary falcon punch, taking out the emperor while dying himself
He can put the Emp in a father-son hug while explosive sakuradite is attached to him.
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Old 2008-08-18, 15:34   Link #2122
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The way Lulu goes after Charles you'd swear he was the one that killed his mom and left his sister cripple. So far he's guilty of being a lousy father abandoning his kids
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Old 2008-08-18, 16:21   Link #2123
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Thinking about the titles for future episodes, I'm left to wonder whether Charles might try and screw over Lelouch more by intentionally passing his immortality. It'd sure be a way to f**k with Lelouch some more, making him live eternally with the sorrow of losing those he cares for and to live forever as a pariah.

It's just a thought, though.
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Old 2008-08-18, 18:37   Link #2124
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Thinking about the titles for future episodes, I'm left to wonder whether Charles might try and screw over Lelouch more by intentionally passing his immortality. It'd sure be a way to f**k with Lelouch some more, making him live eternally with the sorrow of losing those he cares for and to live forever as a pariah.

It's just a thought, though.
Well, it's an interesting thought and one that might well come to be as well - if Lelocuh intends to die with Charles, Charles may well pass on his Geass to Lelouch to save him. Heh, it's be reminscent of what Lelouch did to suzaku... Saved his life even though he didn't want to .
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Old 2008-08-18, 20:21   Link #2125
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Well, it's an interesting thought and one that might well come to be as well - if Lelocuh intends to die with Charles, Charles may well pass on his Geass to Lelouch to save him. Heh, it's be reminscent of what Lelouch did to suzaku... Saved his life even though he didn't want to .
If zero really wants to die that is. I see his line of dragging his father with him as more of a relsove thought than a sucide one
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Old 2008-08-19, 02:47   Link #2126
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Just observation:

Guilford last lines to Cornelia(Lelouch) LIVE ON.
Lelouch Lamperouge(Zero) last words to Kallen LIVE ON.

Guilford died.
Lelouch Lamperouge and Zero died. He reborn as his true self Lelouch vi Britannia.
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Old 2008-08-19, 02:48   Link #2127
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Just observation:

Guilford last lines to Cornelia(Lelouch) LIVE ON.
Lelouch Lamperouge(Zero) last words to Kallen LIVE ON.

Guilford died.
Lelouch Lamperouge and Zero died. He reborn as his true self Lelouch vi Britannia.
Well... Lelouch did intend to die there, so...
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Old 2008-08-19, 02:59   Link #2128
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Well... Lelouch did intend to die there, so...
Yeah he was trying to get Kallen out of the way, but once out of the line of fire he whispered to her to live on. He wanted her to understand.
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Old 2008-08-19, 03:02   Link #2129
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Well... Lelouch did intend to die there, so...
He didn't have to. But he decided it isn't worth Geassing people and causing any more anguish. Lulu never liked Geass, and without Nunnally around, he doesn't think it is worth the bloodshed to survive.

In effect, Lulu didn't want to drag other people down with him. If he was going to die, he would spare the stupid, yet innocent, former followers.

Of course, Rollo would have none of that. So now that Rollo died to save him, Lulu has no choice but to do something with the extra time he had. Lulu can't just kill himself because it would mean Rollo died in vain. So, at the very least, he would bring down the Emperor.
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Old 2008-08-19, 03:04   Link #2130
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Yeah he was trying to get Kallen out of the way, but once out of the line of fire he whispered to her to live on. He wanted her to understand.
The reason he told Kallen to live on but intend to die himself was that Lelouch lost Nunally but Kallen still had her mother. Both were basically creating a similar world but Lelouch no longer has a pretext for doing so
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Old 2008-08-19, 03:08   Link #2131
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Of course, Rollo would have none of that. So now that Rollo died to save him, Lulu has no choice but to do something with the extra time he had. Lulu can't just kill himself because it would mean Rollo died in vain. So, at the very least, he would bring down the Emperor.
Note that Lelouch's goal is no longer to create a world for Nunnally but, (paraphrase) "take Charles down to hell with him" meaning his primary goal has lost all of it's moral aspects. In other words, the devil has been freed from his conscience
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Old 2008-08-19, 03:09   Link #2132
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The reason he told Kallen to live on but intend to die himself was that Lelouch lost Nunally but Kallen still had her mother. Both were basically creating a similar world but Lelouch no longer has a pretext for doing so
The way he said it is nothing less than personal concern. He wasn't telling her for the benefit of her goals, it's just what he desired.
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Old 2008-08-19, 03:11   Link #2133
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Thinking about the titles for future episodes, I'm left to wonder whether Charles might try and screw over Lelouch more by intentionally passing his immortality. It'd sure be a way to f**k with Lelouch some more, making him live eternally with the sorrow of losing those he cares for and to live forever as a pariah.

It's just a thought, though.
I doubt Darth Charles would do something that personal.
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Old 2008-08-19, 03:13   Link #2134
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The way he said it is nothing less than personal concern. He wasn't telling her for the benefit of her goals, it's just what he desired.
Exactly, you could even say it was similar to what Guilford did.
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Old 2008-08-19, 04:14   Link #2135
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I doubt Darth Charles would do something that personal.
The guy shot himself for the lulz. At this point I think he'd do anything.
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Old 2008-08-19, 05:12   Link #2136
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The guy shot himself for the lulz. At this point I think he'd do anything.
he didn't shoot himself, it was all a mindscrew by him. Lelouch was in the Shinkiriou the whole time.
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Old 2008-08-19, 05:36   Link #2137
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he didn't shoot himself, it was all a mindscrew by him. Lelouch was in the Shinkiriou the whole time.
I know what you mean. Was he really under the effect of the Geass or just messing with Lelouch's head.
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Old 2008-08-19, 05:37   Link #2138
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I know what you mean. Was he really under the effect of the Geass or just messing with Lelouch's head.
Everything occurred in thought not in reality.
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Old 2008-08-19, 07:48   Link #2139
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Lelouch doesn't seem to have lost to much this EP as opposed to the OotBK.

Lelouch has lost:

1.The support and trust of the core OotBK members with the exception of kallen and possibly lakshata(her original speciality was biological research and i'm pretty sure she'd jump at the chance to research geass and code plus she followed him because he was an interesting person not for the whole allies of justice thing).

2.The Iakaruga and its support vessels.

3.His army, but they are just mooks so they don't count.

4.Rolo. Okay this is bad since Rolo was fanatically loyal to lelouch even after he got the truth yet he still saved his life and gave him a second chance.

5.Nunnally. Okay she's cute and all and she was his reason for living but now he's got a new one called "kill daddy".

The Ootbk have lost:

1.Their leader lelouch and his brillant strategic mind along with the Shinkiriou and since the whole crux of the deal was Zero in exchange for Japan, since the OotBK haven't held up there end of the bargain Britannia have no need to hold to theirs.

2.Kallen(the OotBK Ace) and the Guren(Ace in the hole). I'm sorry but she's dumping them like a dirty rag sooner rather than later.

3.Jermaih and the Sieg Sutherland are vamoosing as soon as he gets the truth about what they've done to his Lord.

4.Xinge Ke and the Shen Hu. As soon as he gets the truth he's gone. They've sold out Zero and the UFN, turned on the only one of them that he respects and owes anything too(saved Tian Zi, his life, his comrades and disposed of the Eunnchs), doesn't trust Schenziel as far as he can shake a stick at and technically he's the second in command after Zero.

5.When the truth about their deal with Britannia about freeing Japan in exchange becomes known the UFN as a whole will dump them like a sack of crap for there betrayl since in the best case scenario they are neutral and in the worst case will attack them along with britannia. They now have lost their powerbase and have to depend on there own abilities and Britannia generosity. In other words they be screwed.

6.Morale will drop like a brick once either the truth is revealed or the cover story that Zero has died breaks, paranoia will spread like wildfire if the truth about the geass is revealed and there is bound to be some form of factional disputes.

Never mind the foot, it seems the ootBK might just have shot themselves in the head.

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Old 2008-08-19, 10:59   Link #2140
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Never mind the foot, it seems the ootBK might just have shot themselves in the head.
I will enjoy watching that shot in the head, as they crumble for turning on their leader.

Xinge and the others is still up in the air to me, I know Xinge should stay with Lelouch, but that doesn't mean he will.
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