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Old 2008-08-27, 14:30   Link #301
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Yea i figured as much.......
Lets just go a step beyond and say that siblings & cousins are fair game, in pop culture, at least.

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Old 2008-08-28, 05:46   Link #302
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Old 2008-08-28, 18:31   Link #303
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I was reading linn minmei wiki article (no reason for it), and I found the entire Megaroad 1 disappeared in 2016. I'm not a very good macross fan, in fact, I only watched Zero and Frontier. So, I don't know if... there is and official explanation to that disappearence? is it one? And if there isn't one, I was just wondering about it's possible to be related with a large fold "jump", a very, very, very large jump.
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Old 2008-08-28, 19:34   Link #304
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No explanation given and we don't think there will be. I've speculated about that very, very large fold jump as one possible cause actually.
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Old 2008-08-28, 19:41   Link #305
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So it's possible. Ok, thanks a lot :3.

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Old 2008-09-01, 21:42   Link #306
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quick question does anyone knows when the next ost is going to be out?
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Old 2008-09-01, 21:53   Link #307
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Is there any confirmation on how long Frontier will be?
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Old 2008-09-01, 21:58   Link #308
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Is there any confirmation on how long Frontier will be?
25, by various affiliated source materials in Japan.

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Old 2008-09-02, 00:07   Link #309
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25, by various affiliated source materials in Japan.

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But who knows about a season 2... ^^
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Old 2008-09-02, 07:26   Link #310
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But who knows about a season 2... ^^
I'd say stop it before it starts sucking.

Like Code Geass R2. Last several episodes were a mess.

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Old 2008-09-02, 07:51   Link #311
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I'd say stop it before it starts sucking.

Like Code Geass R2. Last several episodes were a mess.

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Which could well be because Geass always was dramatically overblown? Ill expect more WTF moments from their last 4 episodes, thats for sure.

Frontier has much tighter plotting and relies much less on "Oh, shocking!" moments than Geass. A second season could be done easily.

The only problem I could see is on how to continue with the character arcs. Contrary to the overall plot, they seem to be heading towards their conclusion.
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Old 2008-09-02, 15:41   Link #312
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Code Geass R2 was doing just fine in the beginning, until they introduced way too many characters and way too much side plots that ultimately distorted the series in its entirety. Besides, how many Geass episodes were fillers? Many.

Macross could suffer from the same problems. Moreover, just exactly how we are going to continue Frontier's story? Which character should we focus on? Certainly many of us, and I suspect, fans in Japan are near the breaking point of exhaustion from the triangle.

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Old 2008-09-02, 16:08   Link #313
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Code Geass R2 was doing just fine in the beginning, until they introduced way too many characters and way too much side plots that ultimately distorted the series in its entirety. Besides, how many Geass episodes were fillers? Many.

Macross could suffer from the same problems. Moreover, just exactly how we are going to continue Frontier's story? Which character should we focus on? Certainly many of us, and I suspect, fans in Japan are near the breaking point of exhaustion from the triangle.

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As for the story, that is very easy. Keep Galaxy as the threat in the shadows until this season ends, let them make their move in the last episode. The Vajra go bye-bye in a hail of Dimension Eaters, Frontier narrowly escapes.

Next season its full-out war between humans and cyborgs, with the whole Macross universe getting involved. If that seems a bit on the big scale, the Zentraedi wiped out 99% of humanity in the original series.

As for where the characters could go... thats where it gets a bit more difficult. The triangle should by any means be resolved this season, so its not unreasonable to introduce a bunch of new characters for the next season.

Or focus on secondary characters like Klan, who has a pretty big following already.
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, so the obvious choice is to keep Alto and Sheryl more in the background, and let Ranka get into another love triangle, after she finally has grown up some ( in all senses ).

Introduce some more characters from the other fleets, because wed probably see things first from the pure human side.

As for where music comes in, let the cyborgs be pretty emotionless ( y'know, like Brera, but even less emotional ) and the right kind of music helps them recover their humanity, so that we get a Macross solution to the conflict by seasons end.

This was now all a bit incoherent, but I need to get to bed and didnt have much time to put my thoughts in order. If you so desire, I can write it down a bit more organized tomorrow evening. ^^
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Old 2008-09-02, 19:20   Link #314
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I was reading linn minmei wiki article (no reason for it), and I found the entire Megaroad 1 disappeared in 2016. I'm not a very good macross fan, in fact, I only watched Zero and Frontier. So, I don't know if... there is and official explanation to that disappearence? is it one? And if there isn't one, I was just wondering about it's possible to be related with a large fold "jump", a very, very, very large jump.
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Yup there were no official confirmation on what caused the megaroad's disappearance.

As a side note Flashback 2012 was constantly being played over and over so that people would think that megaroad and Minmei is still alive, and also so that the people would not be afraid to go to a colonization ship.
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Well as for the a Macross Frontier season 2, yes it is highly posssible because there would only be a short time to unravel the vajra mystery and galaxy and the love triangle resolution. Everything will fill rushed if it were to end at ep 25 and there would gaping holes and cracks on the story. As for the love triangle they could introduce another character(ducks and hides) like an original Vajra queen then she would get attached to Alto...... okay i'm going to escape now....

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Old 2008-09-02, 20:47   Link #315
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Code Geass R2 was doing just fine in the beginning, until they introduced way too many characters and way too much side plots that ultimately distorted the series in its entirety. Besides, how many Geass episodes were fillers? Many.

Macross could suffer from the same problems. Moreover, just exactly how we are going to continue Frontier's story? Which character should we focus on? Certainly many of us, and I suspect, fans in Japan are near the breaking point of exhaustion from the triangle.

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I duno R2 is pretty good,I mean its no worse than MF wondering between stupid random SOL moments, I think R2 would ave been better if they add more story to the sub plots and padded the 2X show by 10ish eps.

Then again the trouble with filler its either good or horrible...
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Old 2008-09-02, 21:20   Link #316
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I duno R2 is pretty good,I mean its no worse than MF wondering between stupid random SOL moments, I think R2 would ave been better if they add more story to the sub plots and padded the 2X show by 10ish eps.

Then again the trouble with filler its either good or horrible...
Episode 19 ~ 21 has some of the worst pacing in a popular anime franchise. It took only 5 minutes before big bro convinced the Black Knights (which consist of morons in its entirety) that Lulu is supposedly evil. Never mind that the BKs never even bothered giving Lulu a chance for an explanation and wanted to execute him on the spot. Do the Black Knights lack basic, proper logical intelligence, or what?

Then it took just one episode for a huge unsurprising revelation, a recycled Destiny Plan, M. Bison/Shining Finger and Lulu's seat on the Imperial throne. All in just 20 minutes minus the opening and ending credits. Are you catching your breath? Me too.

And what of Lulu himself? This guy is a recycled Reinhard from Legend of the Galactic Heroes (an epic series that no one should miss), complete with some form of sister complex, an unofficial asexual, and has a preference for red-haired best friend/aide de camp.

Never mind that they had the same goal, a goal spawned from their upbringing, and as of right now, Lulu just accomplished what Reinhard thought was his life-long ambition. Although big bro is hardly Lulu's Yang Wen-Li.

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Old 2008-09-02, 22:37   Link #317
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Episode 19 ~ 21 has some of the worst pacing in a popular anime franchise. It took only 5 minutes before big bro convinced the Black Knights (which consist of morons in its entirety) that Lulu is supposedly evil. Never mind that the BKs never even bothered giving Lulu a chance for an explanation and wanted to execute him on the spot. Do the Black Knights lack basic, proper logical intelligence, or what?

Then it took just one episode for a huge unsurprising revelation, a recycled Destiny Plan, M. Bison/Shining Finger and Lulu's seat on the Imperial throne. All in just 20 minutes minus the opening and ending credits. Are you catching your breath? Me too.

And what of Lulu himself? This guy is a recycled Reinhard from Legend of the Galactic Heroes (an epic series that no one should miss), complete with some form of sister complex, an unofficial asexual, and has a preference for red-haired best friend/aide de camp.

Never mind that they had the same goal, a goal spawned from their upbringing, and as of right now, Lulu just accomplished what Reinhard thought was his life-long ambition. Although big bro is hardly Lulu's Yang Wen-Li.

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They short changed more than a couple eps, they are rushing to fit it into a 2X format which it really needed a 3X format to really do the show justice.

Even so it's not "bad".

gaaa I need to see Legend of the Galactic Heroes, I have it on my lsit tho.

Lulu itself...er...himself *hides from the fangirls* is not to bad the asexaul bit is perhaps overplayed but look at the character type a few other characters are not overtly sexual they have to many issues to worry about sex and issues+mental stress lowers blushing to a minimum, he could be more blunt about euphy and such it was a accident but I guess he is bearing the burden and that will aid in corrupting his character donw the line if he is not careful.

AS for the BKs joining with the big mac... ... ... did I just say that?

Anyway Ogi is has issues on 2 fronts 1 is Zero=Lulu+ geass the other is whats her name he is stressed out and might be losing it, the BKs themselfs do not know how many of freyas the empire has that(which is heavily under played) and the other is Zero=Lulu+ geass , while the meeting could have been handled better they postponed further discussions so they are still in a temp truce.

R2 is like a really good wine with a bad after taste and depending on how it plays out it might one of those lingering ones, and MF is like one of those wines or drinks that kicks you in the mouth now and then its good but funky, I hope they clean it up and have a solid ending...I don't want other MZ happening....
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They short changed more than a couple eps, they are rushing to fit it into a 2X format which it really needed a 3X format to really do the show justice.

Even so it's not "bad".

gaaa I need to see Legend of the Galactic Heroes, I have it on my lsit tho.

Lulu itself...er...himself *hides from the fangirls* is not to bad the asexaul bit is perhaps overplayed but look at the character type a few other characters are not overtly sexual they have to many issues to worry about sex and issues+mental stress lowers blushing to a minimum, he could be more blunt about euphy and such it was a accident but I guess he is bearing the burden and that will aid in corrupting his character donw the line if he is not careful.
Just watch LoGH and notice the similarities between it and CG yourself, there are plenty to be found.

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Old 2008-09-02, 23:05   Link #319
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Just watch LoGH and notice the similarities between it and CG yourself, there are plenty to be found.

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In the past year or so as I have been more creative I have found out what they say about everythign comes from everythign else is quite true.

The question is, is that which is before me worth my time? Out of the few anime I have turned my nose up to or dismissed is DMC(has a crappy theme and lolis out of no where) and Golgo 13(dislike the theme) both for different reasons.

My point being no matter how much better something else is it dose not take away from the "something" something else has

In my pooy opinion CG r1/r2 is good and no matter how they end r2 it will still be worthy of my time.
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Old 2008-09-03, 00:53   Link #320
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I take it then there is no interest to see what I think a second season could look like. ^^ Good, saves me some time this evening.
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