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Old 2008-09-10, 01:51   Link #21
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I find it somewhat interesting to find other Koreans on these forums. However I find it rather disappointing some must feel the need to flex their E-peen on this particular subject.
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Old 2008-09-10, 06:42   Link #22
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I'll avoid this thread, given the ignorance of North Korea.


All in all, only a person anchored in the understanding of Korean tradition can remotely understand North Korea.
And yet, you manage to make yourself look like an elitist prick by posting this.

With your deep understanding of your people's political and cultural history, why not help foster understanding by presenting a few facts or insights that most of us don't know about? Isn't that what a forum is all about, an exchange of ideas and knowledge?
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Old 2008-09-10, 06:57   Link #23
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Blackmailing the world (well mostly the US ) with nuke research is enough to be classified as a whacky communist country

I doubt north korea would change much in the next few decades. A internal uprising to overthrow the current regime is unlikely to occur with the military so well entrenched in power much like the situation in Myanmar.
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Old 2008-09-10, 09:17   Link #24
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The economic consequences of the reunification of East Germany and West Germany is still being felt today, although not as much 20 years later.

The difference is actually pretty large between the German reunification and possible Korean reunification.

It has been written in many different articles over the years that at the time of German reunification, the GDP per capita ratio between West and East was 3 to 1.

The GDP per capita ratio between South and North Korea is 13 to 1.

The population ratio between East and West Germany at reunification was 1 to 3. The population ratio between North and South Korea currently is 1 to 2.

With such a large gap in GDP per person, and without a larger proportion of South Koreans to North Koreans in population to help buffer, the reunification of Korea right now could possibly destroy the Korean economy, instead of just inhibiting it temporarily like the German one.
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I fully agree with tenken, I would also like to add the ramification of a fall of NK to Japan and PRC.
If NK should fall there would likely be a political and military breakdown resulting to thousands of refugees without the ironclad fist to contain them with the border.
On the other side of the northern PRC borders there are many Korean decendents residing and alot of refugees will try to find shelter among their brethern but will be unwanted guests to the PRC local government.
Furthermore the counterfeiter that was finaced by the NK government will go rogue and will start shop doing business by their own.
The nuclear physicist will also be up for hire and the poppy field and narcotic chemical plants know to reside within NK will also be looking for an investor.
Kim Jong Il and the NK regime can be said to be the lesser evil since at least they wanted to be discreet with their operations so not to stir up international interest more then need be so they can maintain their own secluded kingdom without foreign influence.
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Old 2008-09-10, 17:19   Link #25
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The economic consequences of the reunification of East Germany and West Germany is still being felt today, although not as much 20 years later.

The difference is actually pretty large between the German reunification and possible Korean reunification.

It has been written in many different articles over the years that at the time of German reunification, the GDP per capita ratio between West and East was 3 to 1.

The GDP per capita ratio between South and North Korea is 13 to 1.

The population ratio between East and West Germany at reunification was 1 to 3. The population ratio between North and South Korea currently is 1 to 2.

With such a large gap in GDP per person, and without a larger proportion of South Koreans to North Koreans in population to help buffer, the reunification of Korea right now could possibly destroy the Korean economy, instead of just inhibiting it temporarily like the German one.
A unification like the Germans is something that I think most Koreans want to avoid. I suppose either the S Korean capitalism or other western capitalism must have large influence in North Korea with the cooperation with the North Korean. Of course at current state this is impossible. But still I think something like this must be done before we could unify into one country. And I think there has been some type of talk with North Korea about this before Yi Myung Bak was elected.
Also that bastard is suppose to recovering.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/nati...09700315F.HTML
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Old 2008-09-10, 17:51   Link #26
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I'll avoid this thread, given the ignorance of North Korea.


All in all, only a person anchored in the understanding of Korean tradition can remotely understand North Korea.
Hurr hurr, I'm a pretentious prick who believes only Koreans have knowledge of the Truth, but I will nonetheless drop around to laugh at all these idiotic non-Korean fools.
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Old 2008-09-12, 11:02   Link #27
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Before anyone can rattle on Kim Jong Il, they need to consider the US and the UN first. The world is like a bad parent. When a child acts bad, you're not supposed to lock him in the closet until he changes--that's abusive. The same concept applies to countries--you don't isolate and sanction a country because you don't agree with it--you talk to it, and provide positive incentives for change.

They did the same to Cuba, Iraq, and a whole bunch of other countries, and as you see, the only thing that can possibly develop out of that is a totalitarian regime.

If there's anything to be learned, if you want democracy, you first allow free trade. With that, everything else comes crashing down.
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Old 2008-09-12, 12:18   Link #28
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North Korea isolated itself...and the only thing the United States did to Cuba was place a trade embargo on it, After it fell to communism...The country is free to trade and travel to any other country except The United States.

The United States is not responsible for countries being taken over by evil dictators....there was this thing called the Korean War that we fought to try to prevent North Korea from falling into communism.
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Old 2008-09-12, 12:23   Link #29
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North Korea isolated itself...and the only thing the United States did to Cuba was place a trade embargo on it, After it fell to communism...The country is free to trade and travel to any other country except The United States.
there was a stupid law pass by congress back in the 90s that allow cuban exiles and thier descendant to sue foreign companies that do business with cuba and use that land that had belong to the cuban exiles' families.
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Old 2008-09-12, 12:31   Link #30
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North Korea isolated itself...and the only thing the United States did to Cuba was place a trade embargo on it, After it fell to communism...The country is free to trade and travel to any other country except The United States.

The United States is not responsible for countries being taken over by evil dictators....there was this thing called the Korean War that we fought to try to prevent North Korea from falling into communism.
Um, there are a ton of sanctions placed on North Korea. It's in complete economic isolation because of it, and only recently has opened up a bit.

As with Cuba, you act like a US trade embargo means nothing. The US is only the largest regional (and worldwide) power. If you're not trading with the US, that's a LOT of money you can't get.

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North Korea isolated itself...and the only thing the United States did to Cuba was place a trade embargo on it, After it fell to communism...The country is free to trade and travel to any other country except The United States.

The United States is not responsible for countries being taken over by evil dictators....there was this thing called the Korean War that we fought to try to prevent North Korea from falling into communism.
The Korean war was not to prevent North Korea from falling into communism. It was fought to prevent the spread of communism into South Korea, because the United States had(has?) a policy of support any regime--dictatorial or totalitarian or not--as long as they are against communism.
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