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Old 2008-09-12, 20:34   Link #41
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As a Korean myself, I would like to see more Koreans being portrayed in anime shows, being it a stereotype or not.

About stereotypes, I only have a grip against black stereotypes in anime. It's not like Americans shows are helping either is this department.
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Old 2008-09-12, 20:51   Link #42
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Now, how about black/african american people at the rare times they're portrayed in anime? Has anyone noticed a stereotype for them?
Well, the average Japanese most likely have little contact with black people.

and James in Blood+ was positively portrayed.


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As a Korean myself, I would like to see more Koreans being portrayed in anime shows, being it a stereotype or not..
In the early 1900s, Japanese propaganda posters showed Japanese soldiers as tall, white skinned, and looked very 'western' - whereas they had posters portraying Chinese, Koreans, and even Russians as darker skinned and 'squint eyed.'
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Old 2008-09-13, 07:38   Link #43
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I personally think that black people are relatively treated well. There are many good black characters in Anime. It is Hispanic whom I regard as less highly treated. They are not portrayed as negative people. But I have seldom seen them in Anime, though Japan is really known for friendly relation with Argentina, Brazil, Peru and so on.
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Old 2008-09-13, 10:20   Link #44
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The category of "Hispanic" is an American thing isn't it? Meaning that in other parts of the world, people from Latin American aren't seen as this separate race called "Hispanics" but just different geographically... Correct me if I'm wrong but that would explain why they're not portrayed specifically as a separate "kind" in anime
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Old 2008-09-14, 13:24   Link #45
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There were a few Korean bridge bunnies I think, but I can only remember Hyo-Jin Yun from Super Robot Wars, or its anime Divine Wars.

I'd like to point out 'Chinatans' though. Why are they always so hot lol, can anyone point out one chinese lady that isn't pretty?

You see: Wang Liu Mei, Gin Rei, Li Mei Ling, Rio Meilong, Lin Minmei, Chun Li, Kuraudoberi Jam etc.
As for Korean bridge bunnies I could think of one from Tylor, Rahxephon, and SRW. Can't really think of any Chinese lady who were ugly in anime, then again in anime ugly female characters tend to be very rare


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I forgot it. I'll make the excuse, saying that BL is full with villains of various nationalities, not only Russia.



I have heard the detailed explanation why there are very few Korean characters in Anime. In short, Japanese are afraid of protest by Korean themselves.

"Hikaru no Go" is probably the most famous anime series in which Koreans appear. In this series, however, they were portrayed as antagonists, though they had some honesty. And then some Korean people living in Japan violently protested this anime. So every Japanese writer or creater were shocked and began to refrain from portraying Korean characters as not only antagonists but also protagonists and such. That is why Koreans are excluded from Anime world. Currently, it is taboo to get Korean characters to appear in anime or manga as well as Japanese Emperor.

In defence of Koreans, I say that many Korean people are not so irritable and they did tolerate Korean portrayal of "Hikaru no Go".
I never knew that that was the reason why Koreans in anime were practically none. I would like to see more Korean in anime and I did like the portrayal of characters in Hikaru no Go. As long as they don't too much stereotype I don't mind if some appears.
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Old 2008-09-18, 07:05   Link #46
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Are you including Black Lagoon's Balalaika in this category? She does display courtesy (often before shooting someone in the head), and she was certainly courageous while leading her forces in Afghanistan, but she's hardly a nice person by any stretch of the imagination.
Spoiler for BL ep 19-24:
And don't forget Maria from Sakura Taisen

Russians like Maria (Sakura Taisen) and Balalaika (Black Lagoon) are generally portrayed as courteous, cold, apathetic, calculating and militaristic/military-conscious.

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I forgot it. I'll make the excuse, saying that BL is full with villains of various nationalities, not only Russia.



I have heard the detailed explanation why there are very few Korean characters in Anime. In short, Japanese are afraid of protest by Korean themselves.

"Hikaru no Go" is probably the most famous anime series in which Koreans appear. In this series, however, they were portrayed as antagonists, though they had some honesty. And then some Korean people living in Japan violently protested this anime. So every Japanese writer or creater were shocked and began to refrain from portraying Korean characters as not only antagonists but also protagonists and such. That is why Koreans are excluded from Anime world. Currently, it is taboo to get Korean characters to appear in anime or manga as well as Japanese Emperor.

In defence of Koreans, I say that many Korean people are not so irritable and they did tolerate Korean portrayal of "Hikaru no Go".
Ah..... I thought the lack of Koreans in anime was because of poor Japan-North Korea relations.

But then Japan-China relations were somewhat sour as well over Japanese government's denial of its war crimes against Chinese.

But I once thought the reason many Chinese characters such as Li Syaoran (Card Captor Sakura), Hei/Li Shengshen (Darker Than Black), Lee Bailong (Shaman King), and Tao Ren (Shaman King) were portrayed as angry, impulsive, hot-tempered, apathetic and bitter persons was because the Chinese's bitter resentment and arrogance left a big impression on the Japanese.

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Old 2008-09-18, 13:04   Link #47
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I personally think that black people are relatively treated well. There are many good black characters in Anime. It is Hispanic whom I regard as less highly treated. They are not portrayed as negative people. But I have seldom seen them in Anime, though Japan is really known for friendly relation with Argentina, Brazil, Peru and so on.

Well we can agree to disagree, but many good black characters is definitely pushing it. While they're are a select few, they are FAR from the actual normal that exist within the Anime spectrum.

After seeing the fodder killer bee on Naruto, I officially gave up on diversity in manga/anime. For that, I read American comics.
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Old 2008-09-18, 13:38   Link #48
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Why has no one mentioned Jody Rockwell from Yawara? Blasphemy!

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Old 2008-09-18, 18:55   Link #49
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The category of "Hispanic" is an American thing isn't it? Meaning that in other parts of the world, people from Latin American aren't seen as this separate race called "Hispanics" but just different geographically... Correct me if I'm wrong but that would explain why they're not portrayed specifically as a separate "kind" in anime
Hispanic = anyone who speaks Spanish
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Old 2008-09-18, 19:36   Link #50
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Going by this thread, Monster has to be the best anime ever. XD

and does anybody have examples of hot black anime girls? I don't remember seeing a sweet chocolate portrayed, ever. No I don't want a black girl with an afro talking in jive, even if she was hot.
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Old 2008-09-19, 00:41   Link #51
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Going by this thread, Monster has to be the best anime ever. XD

and does anybody have examples of hot black anime girls? I don't remember seeing a sweet chocolate portrayed, ever. No I don't want a black girl with an afro talking in jive, even if she was hot.

Nope, none come to my mind. The only non stereotypical black girl I've seen from along that lines is the girl from RE5. She is based off of an biracial lady from Australia I believe, but the character herself looks full African. She's pretty hot in an artistic, 3-D style way I guess.
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Old 2008-09-19, 01:59   Link #52
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Stereotyping isn't that bad, at least it means there is something interesting about them. Its better than not being represented at all like Singaporeans.
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Old 2008-09-19, 02:23   Link #53
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ARIA mixed a fair bit of races but gave them an "aria-esque" personality rather than anything related to real world.

Going by the names, the ARIA cast could be comprised of:
Japanese (Akari, Ai, Postman, Grandma, Akatsuki)
Italian (Alicia)
Chinese-Italian (Aika)
Japanese-Italian (Akira)
African-British/American (Athena)
English? (Alice)
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Old 2008-09-19, 04:36   Link #54
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Stereotyping isn't that bad, at least it means there is something interesting about them. Its better than not being represented at all like Singaporeans.
Its better to keep our Singaporean behavious to ourselves lol

The only stereotypes we can produce would be pretty ugly lol
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Old 2008-09-19, 13:19   Link #55
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Oh and anime shows definitely don't just spark minor problems from overseas. I'm not sure if anyone heard about this yet, but the writers from jo jo adventurers "accidentally" used the Koran as a terrorist book.
No it wasn't. In the manga, it was just some random book. In the anime, they changed it into the Koran but why a BRITISH vampire passing the time reading it briefly without any real reaction somehow=terrorist book is beyond me.
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Old 2008-09-20, 21:14   Link #56
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Japan is very intimate with Islam countries where is not only Southeast Asia but also Central/West Asia and Africa.
I can never believe such nation have had hostility against Qur'an.
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Old 2008-09-21, 18:05   Link #57
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Going by this thread, Monster has to be the best anime ever. XD

and does anybody have examples of hot black anime girls? I don't remember seeing a sweet chocolate portrayed, ever. No I don't want a black girl with an afro talking in jive, even if she was hot.
april from darker than black
yoruichi from bleach
Claudia LaSalle from Macross

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Old 2008-09-22, 01:03   Link #58
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No it wasn't. In the manga, it was just some random book. In the anime, they changed it into the Koran but why a BRITISH vampire passing the time reading it briefly without any real reaction somehow=terrorist book is beyond me.
I did not state it was from a manga I do not believe. I just stated it was in jo jo adventurers, which indeed was correct. Here is an article dedicated towards it.


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23.05.08 16:31

A Japanese publisher apologized Thursday for "inappropriate use" of the Koran in a popular fantasy cartoon series in which a villain is seen holding the Muslim holy book, reported AFP.

Publishing house Shueisha said images from the Koran were unintentionally added to give a sense of authenticity to a scene in "Jojo's Bizarre Adventure".

The cartoon is based on a manga comic, which has sold 70 million copies in Japan alone.

The comic book, however, did not use any image of the Koran, although it had a battle scene inside a mosque, a spokeswoman for the publisher said.

Shueisha and an animation production firm stopped shipping the comic books, DVDs and videos containing images of the Koran and the mosque battle, she said.

"Our in-house reviews of the work have led us to take action for the inappropriate use of the Koran, which we realize is extremely sacred," the spokeswoman said.

In a joint statement with the animation firm, Shueisha said: "We sincerely apologize to Muslim people for causing offense." Comics from the "Jojo's Bizarre Adventure" series have been published in various parts of the world, including North America, Europe and Asia.

The comics are not officially translated into Arabic, but the company is aware of criticism among Arabic speakers about the scenes, the spokeswoman said.

http://news.trendaz.com/index.shtml?...206785&lang=EN
As for not understanding, more than likely, you'll have to be muslim to understand why it could be seen as offensive. It's very hard for an outside person to look and an be able to judge something to be offensive with they have little to no information about topic at hand originally (topic regarding to Koran and Muslim)
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Old 2008-09-22, 02:29   Link #59
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Pardon, but anyone else know the names of the other Korean characters in the SRW series aside from Hyo-Jin Yun? Thanks.
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Old 2008-09-22, 03:14   Link #60
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april from darker than black
yoruichi from bleach
Claudia LaSalle from Macross
I guess you win on technicality that Yoruichi is black, but that's not exactly what I meant.

I looked up the other two and... they be hurtin' =\
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