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Old 2007-06-17, 05:44   Link #21
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I've read the Game Informer article, and I'm still cautious about F3. Some things sound good, others have too little information about them, like how the combat system actually works and whether there really *will* be alternate conclusions to quests, not just different ways to make them end the same way.
I feel cautious too. Hopefully, it won't simply turn out to be a pretty Fallout mod for Oblivion.

Don't get me wrong. I did enjoy Oblivion, but after a while, it felt...empty.
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Old 2007-06-17, 10:38   Link #22
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The time have passed 10 years from Fallout 2 and 7 years from Fallout Tactics. I hope Fallout 3 follow classic stype of Fallout.
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Old 2007-06-18, 18:47   Link #23
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Look the hammer of this Super Mutant, a beautiful hammer in fallout world, how boring O.o:
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Old 2007-06-19, 02:56   Link #24
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I dunno. Some of those energy weapons were pretty darn clean. Namely those Laser Pistols.

It looks somewhat *special* as it has that hexagonal bolt-encrusted member stuck around the top of the shaft with what seems to be wires.
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Old 2007-06-19, 08:56   Link #25
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Those pictures really bring my hope down to ground level, the mutants look like they came from the world of Doom 3, wielding a Oblivion warhammer with some bolts on it.
For the clean shiny stuff, lazer/energy weapons need to be clean, they're using lazer/plasma anyway. But who needs Intel Core 2 on a shiny well decorated sledgehammer if they're swinging it to crush the enemies' head .
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Old 2007-06-19, 20:48   Link #26
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I'm glad to hear there's no level scaling... that really killed Oblivion for me. I'll probably end up buying this when it comes out.
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Old 2007-06-20, 03:29   Link #27
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Old 2008-05-10, 23:53   Link #28
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Bad news for gamers who are using Ndivia, Fallout 3 will only play on ATI, it need 712 MB VGA and 2GB Ram to can be played. Bethesda is destroying a legend.

Fallout become legend since it's story and gameplay, not graphic.
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Old 2008-05-11, 00:17   Link #29
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Bad news for gamers who are using Ndivia, Fallout 3 will only play on ATI, it need 712 MB VGA and 2GB Ram to can be played.
That's insane.

How can they let that happen? Eliminating compatibility with one of the staples of the graphics-cards industry in favor of the another is not cool.

Eh, looks like I'm just going to have to stick with the '360 version for the time being. I already went all out in buying a rig with nvidia.

It looks really sweet, too. It's one of those games I would've definitely liked to have mods for. I remember that I couldn't help but buy the PC version of Oblivion after I tried out the '360 version just because the mod community for those kinds of game is so huge. There are so many content mods out there that really add hours worth of game time.
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Old 2008-05-11, 00:20   Link #30
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Second that. Why would you restrict the market to one side? That just means even less sales for you.
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Old 2008-05-11, 03:07   Link #31
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That's insane.

How can they let that happen? Eliminating compatibility with one of the staples of the graphics-cards industry in favor of the another is not cool.

Eh, looks like I'm just going to have to stick with the '360 version for the time being. I already went all out in buying a rig with nvidia.

It looks really sweet, too. It's one of those games I would've definitely liked to have mods for. I remember that I couldn't help but buy the PC version of Oblivion after I tried out the '360 version just because the mod community for those kinds of game is so huge. There are so many content mods out there that really add hours worth of game time.
Fallout 3 will need 25GB HDD (2 DVD-9), what the huge!. I think Bethesda want to use Fallout 3 for shinning their name than revive Fallout series and help ATI which is exhaust in the race with Ndivia in game field.
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Old 2008-05-11, 09:24   Link #32
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Thank Bethesda, now i know why i dislike Oblivion so much. Why does PC games always tries to make their fanbase upgrade their rig everytime a game comes out? No wonder the only things i play on my pc nowdays are old games and MMOs.
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Old 2008-05-12, 00:43   Link #33
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-No level scaling like oblivion, you walk into a high level area, you die horribly.
that used to be correct, but it has been changed:

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If we lock you in an area you can't leave, we don't want the enemies you fight to be grossly out of proportion with your character, 'cause you can't leave. So if it's an area where you can leave and run away, that's fine, we don't care, you get your ass kicked, leave and come back later. But if you're locked in a room or some place, we don't want it to be "well, these guys are 20 levels higher than you, you'll never defeat 'em, the game is screwed, sorry, too bad." We try to be a little forgiving in those situations.
This I guess means that if you get yourself trapped within a dangerous place, there will be absolutely no consequence. That and there's probably going to be some kind of magical binding force keeping me within places somehow. If I'm trapped, shouldn't I generally be able to rely on my lockpick skill to get me out; and if I don't have it, shouldn't I suffer some sort of consequence? sigh, Bethesda. Level scaling just doesn't belong in an RPG.

Anyways, after hearing more about the combat system (which CanardPC has said sucks) I'm not even interested. I thought it might, even if it severely lacks resemblance towards previous Fallout games, be some kind of stupid-fun sort of game. But an FPS where your aim is irrelevant and you have to pause to auto-aim onto your target is just dumb. If you aim at an enemy and shoot him in the head, it automatically counts as a torso shot: it all has to be done in VATS (in other words, the game must be paused to aim). Just doesn't sound fun. It's gonna sell like hotcakes though, just because it's going to be hyped as "Oblivion in post-apocalyptic America". bleh
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Old 2008-05-12, 01:23   Link #34
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Congrats Bethesda for shitting all over the great series that was Fallout, thank you sooo very much for raping the creative works of one of the best ever PC franchises - in my opinion on par with Half Life, StarCraft, ect.

I absolutely hated Oblivion, and just by looking at the scan - thank you for providing - I can already tell that this game is just piece of crap. As a PC gamer, Bethesda just slapped my face.
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Old 2008-05-13, 10:39   Link #35
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Maybe, Beth want to finish this series before players can finish it .
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Old 2008-11-01, 01:58   Link #36
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Anyone playing this one ? Oddly enough, I'm enjoying it very much. Ohhh there's plenty of little things to niggle at but I'm having a blast running through the ruins of washington. Maybe because it's the skeptical outlook i had going into into it.

The graphics are good, especially the environment though like others have said it, your character animation is a bit stiff.

Combats are ok, though I find the cross hair a bit hard to use. Most of the times you ll be relying on VATS and fallback on realtime mode when you are recharging your APs.

Music is good but could be better if they put in more tracks for the radio station since there's so few of them and tends to repeat a lot. Voice Acting is awesome and very impressive in terms of amount and variety.

Last note, I'm playing the PC version. As I understand there's some problem with the PS3 version.
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Old 2008-11-01, 06:23   Link #37
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Are you a fan of the previous Fallout games and would like to play it on your XP/Vista OS with no problems?

gog.com is offering Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics to download for $5.99 each and whats even better is the fact there ARE NO DRM SOFTWARE and you can download the installer as many times for free when you bought it the first time!! YEAH!!!

Thank you to the guys of gog.com for making it so simple to buy classical games legally!

Now, i just gonna get some money first.

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Old 2008-11-01, 09:42   Link #38
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Ok, I'm a huge Fallout fan, and I have to say this. For you Wonnabe Fallout Fans, Don't like the game? THen don't f***ing play it and don't post your Cry baby posts here.

You're lucky enough They revived it, if it wasn't for them there would be no Fallout Sequals at all. and for that, I worship them..

The game isn't half bad at all.... scratch that, I love the game and I loved Oblivion. If you wonna cry about the Equal leveled Enemies then get the PC version and wait for Mods, Until then, Shut the hell up and don't post your pointless blabber here. This topic isn't called "Lets Piss all over this game with our crappy half a**ed rants" So LEAVE!

Now that thats over... I'm going through the GOOD guy play through... its fun and all, but there are so many people I Want to kill for talking to me Wrong... But I'll be doing a Evil play through after i beat it 100%

I can't wait to see Megaton be blown to hell

@ Jazzrat, the Xbox360 and PS3 Version are shit compared to the PC version, I tried all versions and so far the PC version has Faster loading, Better graphics, and Modding available also first dibs on Addons from the company its self.

Aiming is horrible on the Controlers as well, Main reason I didn't like the PS3 version. For Example, I hid behind the Super Duper mart food shelf and waited for the melee guy to come to me around the corner, I had my Combat Shotgun aimed head high and blew his head off without vats, I couldn't do that with the PS3 version because of the Aiming Issues I had.

Again for jazzrat, Kinda hard to find WORKING Disks to play some music, You're lucky theirs music at all Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have music that I Remember (Actual singing)
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Old 2008-11-01, 09:57   Link #39
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Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have music that I Remember (Actual singing)
It was only ever used at the introduction and the ending.

I'm still surprised that they're still using the Radiant AI for this game considering how incompetent it was in Oblivion. Bethesda makes the strangest choices...
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Old 2008-11-02, 00:30   Link #40
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Ok, I'm a huge Fallout fan, and I have to say this. For you Wonnabe Fallout Fans, Don't like the game? THen don't f***ing play it and don't post your Cry baby posts here.

You're lucky enough They revived it, if it wasn't for them there would be no Fallout Sequals at all. and for that, I worship them..

The game isn't half bad at all.... scratch that, I love the game and I loved Oblivion. If you wonna cry about the Equal leveled Enemies then get the PC version and wait for Mods, Until then, Shut the hell up and don't post your pointless blabber here. This topic isn't called "Lets Piss all over this game with our crappy half a**ed rants" So LEAVE!

Now that thats over... I'm going through the GOOD guy play through... its fun and all, but there are so many people I Want to kill for talking to me Wrong... But I'll be doing a Evil play through after i beat it 100%

I can't wait to see Megaton be blown to hell

@ Jazzrat, the Xbox360 and PS3 Version are shit compared to the PC version, I tried all versions and so far the PC version has Faster loading, Better graphics, and Modding available also first dibs on Addons from the company its self.

Aiming is horrible on the Controlers as well, Main reason I didn't like the PS3 version. For Example, I hid behind the Super Duper mart food shelf and waited for the melee guy to come to me around the corner, I had my Combat Shotgun aimed head high and blew his head off without vats, I couldn't do that with the PS3 version because of the Aiming Issues I had.

Again for jazzrat, Kinda hard to find WORKING Disks to play some music, You're lucky theirs music at all Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have music that I Remember (Actual singing)
Well, I don't really appreciate the insults. But whatever. Here's another rant:

They didn't really revive Fallout. I've played the game and it's basically just a sequel to Oblivion. Fallout wasn't about playing through as a good guy then a bad guy. It's about role-playing a unique character in an environment which will respond appropriately to the qualities of your character. Here are the following "qualities" you can choose for your character in Fallout 3:

Good
Bad

And that's it. Every quest you get, you've got these options: do the quest, threaten to kill the quest-giver, or perform some evil and mischievous act. As a maximum, you'll have around three resolutions to any quest. You can't role-play a unique character with only two-three approaches to any given quest. The dialogue is awful. It suffers from the Mass Effect syndrome. You have three dialogue options in any given scenario: be a nice guy, be an evil guy, or be a bit of a jerk but still a nice guy. The only purpose that the speech skill has now is to ask for larger quest rewards. Intelligence hardly ever unlocks new dialogue options anymore.

The game doesn't have the charm it had before. Fallout games were great because they were intelligent. Fallout 3 is about as dumbed down as you could get a cRPG to be.

One thing I want to know, though, is how they got away with adding mudcrabs and orcs into the game. Those were orcs, right?
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