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Old 2009-01-17, 13:34   Link #2241
krisslanza
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I tried that free Mabinogi mmo once. The ads showed these total badass anime warriors and said you could do pretty much anything you wanted. My actual character looked like a stick figure I could draw in MS paint and my gameplay consisted of running around punching foxes. Yeah, I'll stick to WoW for now.
You can do pretty much anything you want. I think recently someone managed to finish all of Generation 1, 2, and 3 without rebirthing (this is one of the biggest gripes of Mabinogi of people complaining it's impossible to play the game without doing it).

Then again that player had played the TW version before so they were far more skilled then your average player.

And if you were just punching foxes you weren't moving on to other things yet
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Old 2009-01-17, 15:02   Link #2242
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You can do pretty much anything you want. I think recently someone managed to finish all of Generation 1, 2, and 3 without rebirthing (this is one of the biggest gripes of Mabinogi of people complaining it's impossible to play the game without doing it).

Then again that player had played the TW version before so they were far more skilled then your average player.

And if you were just punching foxes you weren't moving on to other things yet
Well, I wanted to assassinate the village elder and rain fiery death upon the village but all I could do was take his quest to go punch foxes, so I guess I couldn't do anything I wanted now could I?

In all seriousness though, I didn't actually play long enough to form a real opinion on the game but I was really turned off by all the 12 year old leetspeak clogging every chat channel and the fact that you have to pay money just to make your character not look like a total lifeless blob, especially after the style they used in the ads. (Yeah I know this game is free to start and WoW costs money both to buy and play monthly but the whole spending money for in-game items has always felt like a scam to me, even the WoW trading card vanity-only items.) Also just decided, I play WoW and don't intend to stop right now, so there is really no point in wasting time in another mmo, especially this game which just feels inferior right from the start.
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Old 2009-01-17, 17:42   Link #2243
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You know that was one thing i really found annoying, to an irrational level. The games that have these high detail high rendered characters in their ads but in game they look like... crap. Pretty much like what you said RWB. It's like showing a picture of Arthas from the opening movie of WOTLK, then in game he looked like his model from War3.

When I came from EQ I noted the same thing about WoW's leveling. It was easy, you didn't really need to group, there was no death penalty, and much of the player base came off as immature idiots. I was expecting leveling to slow down, a lot. Like I figured the first 10 levels would be deliberately easy then after that it would be like EQ. Well I was wrong there. The idiots are still here to.

One thing I noticed, back when I first started playing it was easy to pick up those that had played EQ before, since they were generally polite and spoke in the same EQ jargon. You could expect them to know how to play an MMO so the groups were generally good. It was funny, people who played EQ tended to gather together, those that played Lineage gathered together and so on, B.net kiddies were shunned. I remember back in the day one of the requirements I saw was 'previous mmo experience required' tacked onto group/guild messages.
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Old 2009-01-17, 17:50   Link #2244
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well apparently my account got compromised...i lost all my characters and everything : ( Bliz said they'd try to bring my characters back, but I'm not sure if I'll get my items. I'm still trying to figure out how my account got compromised...its such a headache I had to change all my passwords and virus scan and spyware scan for everything...now i'm starting a frost mage...
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Old 2009-01-17, 17:57   Link #2245
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That sucks tdk. Hope you get your stuff back. If you were hacked you might want to get one of those Authenticators, they are pretty cheap like US$6 or something. They will make it far harder for you to get hacked.
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Old 2009-01-17, 17:59   Link #2246
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where do you get those authenticators from?
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Old 2009-01-17, 18:01   Link #2247
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Bliz website here. The Australian ones are always sold out QQ.
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Old 2009-01-18, 02:03   Link #2248
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Well, I wanted to assassinate the village elder and rain fiery death upon the village but all I could do was take his quest to go punch foxes, so I guess I couldn't do anything I wanted now could I?

In all seriousness though, I didn't actually play long enough to form a real opinion on the game but I was really turned off by all the 12 year old leetspeak clogging every chat channel and the fact that you have to pay money just to make your character not look like a total lifeless blob, especially after the style they used in the ads. (Yeah I know this game is free to start and WoW costs money both to buy and play monthly but the whole spending money for in-game items has always felt like a scam to me, even the WoW trading card vanity-only items.) Also just decided, I play WoW and don't intend to stop right now, so there is really no point in wasting time in another mmo, especially this game which just feels inferior right from the start.
To be fair using the banner ads as a source of... Hmmm... Let's say "graphical analysis" is usually a poor choice since they will tend to have things you can't actually get. I mean look at WoW for an example. Would we have thought Outlands was cool if they showed us the gear we would be using for a long time?

Speaking of WoW it has occured to me I haven't actually played it for about... 2 or 3 months since I picked up Mabinogi again. Mainly because WoW was feeling too grindy and the repetitiveness of hitting the 1-4 keys for every single enemy was starting to wear on me pretty quickly... But eh to each their own yes, yes?
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Old 2009-01-18, 04:17   Link #2249
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Saddly theres only so much we can do with a keyboard... Bring on virtual reality IMO!

WoW/fantasy MMO version of the Matrix anyone? >.>

Give it a couple more years...
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Old 2009-01-18, 08:19   Link #2250
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My only mmo experiances before WoW was Earth & Beyond (I think that was the title) which was a kind of cool spaceship based mmo. My problems with it was the too simplistic flight interface (I like my joystick for flight sims) and that I was still on dialup, thus limited most of the time. Its servers have all been shut down, which is kind of sad since I did want to play it more once I had a more reliable connection.

The other game was Guild Wars. I liked it because it was free (after purchase of course) and you could go off and do your own thing even on dialup. My problem with it was the leveling and the needing to group. Actually leveling itself wasn't bad..it was the level cap at 20, but everything else still got better as you kept going. I eventually stopped playing near the end of the first game. My friend and I would sometimes play it again with his copies of the expansions, but we stopped after he broke down and got WoW, then got me and later his wife to play too.

I've had more fun with WoW. Probably because of the questing and the in-jokes. Also the random help you can get for a quest in the weirdest places. Also at certain points it gets fun (or funny) when you can go back someplace and one shot mobs that use to be a pain in the neck. And still get some decent lot off them. (decent is a relative term. If I can make gold off it, it is decent).
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Old 2009-01-18, 20:48   Link #2251
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I'm currently lurking around on the the Old Republic forums. Being the Star Wars fan I am and having greatly enjoyed KotoR, I am looking forward to this game. Though the forums are filled with wide speculation and often pointless debates, there is very little hostility. That makes it a whole lot more comfortable then the WoW forums.
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Old 2009-01-18, 22:20   Link #2252
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I'm anxious for Old Republic as well, but after the train wreck of SWG, I'm very wary of another Star Wars MMO suffering the same fate. I'm a little wary of what Lucas Arts will have a say in and how they'll limit BioWare, but on the other hand KOTOR was a great game and I hope they are up to the task of making an MMO fluid and enjoyable enough for the majority of people to get into.
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Old 2009-01-18, 22:43   Link #2253
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I'd be happy with an updated and complete variation on the X-wing series of flight simulators myself. Also there recent space flight games (to my knowledge) have been limited areas and mostly platform games. I liked X-wing because you could literally go any direction you wanted if you wanted to run, or get a weird angle of attack on a capital ship you could do so.

I sort of wanted a Clone Wars variation with all those new ships added to the mix. Especially the capital ships. More so than any droid or jedi fighters. More captal ships means a better variety of targets and/or possible battles that can be witnessed while the player is busy (or not) attacking starfighters.

I don't think you could turn that into a MMO unless they tied the combat system into several spread out sectors where their may or may not be fighting going on. It would also depend on the time period.
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Old 2009-01-18, 22:59   Link #2254
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Apparently the KOTOR mmo will be like free mmos and have an online store kind of thing. At least thats what I read.
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Old 2009-01-18, 23:17   Link #2255
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I really enjoyed the Freespace games, they had really enjoyable space combat (good story too, Freespace 3 naed plox). Biggest Capital ships (not player controlled) down to fighters and bombers, and being able to fly around them was really immersive. Capital ships were freakin huge. I would love space combat in an MMO to be like that, but its doubtful. TBH couple of my friends have the same wish that there should be a Mechwarrior MMO, both planet and space combat heh. Cross EVE's galactic setup, with a more traditional earth based mechanics it could be good. But it would be impossible for a game to be that in depth probably.

I dunno I think its probably too early for them to discuss payment methods, and it would seem a really odd method for a western mmo to take. But then again it could play into the game's economic and galactic model, and be a nice earner on the side.
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Old 2009-01-19, 04:25   Link #2256
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Now Freespace 3 would just be awesome. But I seriously doubt we'll be geting one of those, just like we won't be getting any more Wing Commander games. (I so wanted a Strike Commander/Privateer game..set on an escort carrier or something.)
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Old 2009-01-19, 05:00   Link #2257
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Kind of surprised Starcraft is the risky three-games-within-the-same-title RTS rather than an MMO. Would have loved to roll a Zerg and paste redneck Terrans over and over. ^^
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Old 2009-01-22, 01:35   Link #2258
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I hear 3.0.8 is live? How is it?
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Old 2009-01-22, 01:50   Link #2259
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From what I read, about Death Knights anyway... Blood and Unholy got slapped with the nerf stick (highlights include a massive nerf on Mark of Blood for example and Bone Armor being nerfed from 40% to 20%, the Ghoul form only lasting 25 seconds and only useable once every 15 minutes. Icebound went from 50% to 20% and scales off Defense.) and Frost got some buffs and some nerfs.

Biggest highlight? Make any lv55 and get Death Knights account-wide. Now you can make one anywhere (except new servers)!
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Old 2009-01-22, 03:38   Link #2260
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My world shattered. Not only did they destroy BM thus making Loque, which i looked for 3 Weeks, useless.
They nerfed the gold drops of old-content bosses like Onyxia, AQ20 and Gurub by 50%. I loved soloing those for gold instead of doing crappy dailies all the time. Now i'll just do Mandokir for the Raptor and Rajaxx for the Manslayer of the Qiraji.

Wintergrasp constantly crashed the world-server so they had to deactivate it, thus giving the alliance a permanent essence of wintergrasp until it's fixed.

I'm survival now, which got a nice buff. I'll try it for a while and see if i go back to BM or not.
I always was BM.. i only started the class because of the Pet. ._.
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