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View Poll Results: Toradora! - Episode 17 Rating
Perfect 10 35 27.34%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 45 35.16%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 27 21.09%
7 out of 10 : Good 13 10.16%
6 out of 10 : Average 7 5.47%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.78%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2009-01-29, 23:40   Link #61
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As much as I would like to think otherwise, it is not likely there will be another run after this 25 episodes. Basically, everything has gone according to the novel, which will likely be covered in the 25 of them. Unless JC staff plans something out of source, I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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Old 2009-01-30, 01:45   Link #62
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Agreed, the most you're likely to get is an OVA as a closeout/cleanup (unless the novel series spins off later or something).

Frankly, I'm fine with a nice complete series that finishes.
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Old 2009-01-30, 04:32   Link #63
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as always that bird totally cracked me up this episode
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Old 2009-01-30, 05:21   Link #64
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Damn bird cracks me up

Anyways, I thought Ryuuji was gonna be happy for Taiga when she was with Kitamura. Didn't expect Ryuuji to react like that......
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Old 2009-01-30, 07:36   Link #65
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I wouldn't mind if the put it out of it's misery as a Christmas dinner. Probably will be giving mercy.

Then again, who wants to eat a disease-ridden bird?
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Old 2009-01-30, 07:40   Link #66
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I wouldn't mind if the put it out of it's misery as a Christmas dinner. Probably will be giving mercy.
Inko-chan will not go down without a fight.
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Old 2009-01-30, 07:40   Link #67
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Subs are up.
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Old 2009-01-30, 07:43   Link #68
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Subs are up.
I wonder how they translated "Mappa" it actually means "Full Monty" as the British would put it.
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Old 2009-01-30, 08:14   Link #69
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It's quite a surprise that Kihara's selfishness would actually enlighten Ryuji of the true state of things. I don't like her self-centered behavior and her possibly trying to deny Taiga her happiness, but at least Ryuji has a clue now.

Oh, and can someone explain the "Guns N' Roses" reference at the end?
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Old 2009-01-30, 08:34   Link #70
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It's quite a surprise that Kihara's selfishness would actually enlighten Ryuji of the true state of things. I don't like her self-centered behavior and her possibly trying to deny Taiga her happiness, but at least Ryuji has a clue now.
And what about Kihara's happiness? One does whatever one can to be happy, sometimes it makes others unhappy, but thats they way things are. Taiga can be deemed to be just as much self-centered as Kihara as she does not pay attention that Kihara is not happy, or happy when around Kitamura.

Taiga's happiness makes Kihara unhappy... Are you saying that Taiga deserves to be happy more than Kihara? I think they both deserve to be happy, and if Kihara can do more about it - then she should try to do that.

Sorry but it is not altruistic world. You got spoiled by Ryuuji's kindness way too much.
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Old 2009-01-30, 08:54   Link #71
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Oh, and can someone explain the "Guns N' Roses" reference at the end?
I love Guns N' Roses...

And i Think ( I THINK) that is a way to say something like "super fu**ing confusing" just becouse Axl, used to say a lot "fu**" and that stuff...

Is just a Thought...

And i like the episode...

Finally we see in the anime, Ryuuji challenged his own feelings for Taiga...

well a god damned wait to chap 18...

BtW i like the OP more and more, the Ed blehhh...

8/10...

VIVA ZEPPELIN!!!!!!!!
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Old 2009-01-30, 08:59   Link #72
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Old 2009-01-30, 09:05   Link #73
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hehehe also lol'd at coalguys, btw what is the real trans for that sign there?
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Old 2009-01-30, 09:09   Link #74
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Ikemen= "Cool Guys", which is what makes it even funnier.
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Old 2009-01-30, 09:32   Link #75
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Are you saying that Taiga deserves to be happy more than Kihara?
Yes. What has Kihara done for Kitamura? Did she get battered and bruised over his happiness? Did she try to run for presidency so as to kick him into action? Does she truly love him as much as Taiga does, to the point of fretting over every minor detail? For what Kitamura is worth, Taiga deserves happiness much more than Kihara.

Mind you, you asked about happiness. If happiness to Taiga is Ryuji and to Kihara is Kitamura, then I have nothing to say. But since Taiga seems happy around Kitamura, for the time being, Taiga deserves happiness more than Kihara does.


Haruta's mind is... twisted...
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Old 2009-01-30, 09:35   Link #76
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As always, I tried to organize my reflections on the episode. I'd be happy if you offered comments there:

Toradora - 17: When Mercury retrogrades

Thanks!
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Old 2009-01-30, 09:41   Link #77
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Ikemen= "Cool Guys", which is what makes it even funnier.
It's one "self-promotion" I can close two eyes on.
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Old 2009-01-30, 09:48   Link #78
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I actually laughed at that scene. Sure, they're a jolly group, but they release fast and quality subs.
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Old 2009-01-30, 09:51   Link #79
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Heh. I thoroughly enjoyed this Christmas episode. Not just because Taiga walks in on Takasu and his mom bowing down to the incredible and God-like Inko-chan who can apparently arrange full on conversations. Smart bird.

Anyhow, I've been wondering how long it would take Takasu to evaluate his own feelings about things going on around him. Fortunately it seems he's begun to do that as of this episode, with a little help from Kihara. Personally, I never thought Kihara was very selfish, and I know selfish people that are a million times worse. Kihara is just a regular girl, she's not bad for wanting Kitamura for herself rather than letting Taiga have him. Everybody wants to be happy, after all. Taiga would do the exact same thing if Kitamura and Kihara were dating or being setup.

It was interesting that she got the impression that Takasu likes Taiga though. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that she thought that, but considering that possibility was publicly shown to be impossible... I'm surprised. The next few episodes should prove to be very interesting for Takasu, as well as Minorin and Ami. I'm just waiting to see what happens for Taiga that puts her in a similar situation, but my thoughts are Minorin might have something to do with it.

... Anyhow. Respect great Inko, cook a dingo. LAY OFF THE BIRDS!
Nuff said.
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Old 2009-01-30, 10:25   Link #80
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You're being too light on Maya, what she's trying to do is incredibly selfish. Worst of all is she's trying to convince others and herself it's for their own good.
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