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Old 2009-02-09, 01:03   Link #1
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Gundam 00 - Innovator discussion

The Innovators


The purpose of this thread is to provide a place to discuss all things Innovator related.

This discussion may include, but is not limited to:
  • The origin of the Innovators.
  • Their biology.
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  • Humans as potential Innovators.
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Known Innovators:
  • Ribbons Almark
  • Hilling Care
  • Regene Regetta
  • Tieria Erde
  • Revive Revival
  • Anew Returner
  • Bring Stabbity
  • Devine Nova
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Old 2009-02-09, 01:07   Link #2
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Man where to start....

Hmm...I wonder how one goes about "applying" for the job application of being an Innovator.
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Old 2009-02-09, 01:31   Link #3
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1 - Ribbins was the creator of the other innovators..at least those who are with him now, it's possible that Teria and ribbins had similar roles to play, but ribbins got corrupted.

2 - I see no structure in the innovator system other than they all listen to ribbins.

3 - They seem to be enhanced humans..but posess nothing more than humans..simply better reflexes and such..but not like laser eyes and such..they're like co-ordinators..special people, not super people.
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Old 2009-02-09, 01:48   Link #4
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Regene Regetta may have his (her?) own motives, doesn't seem to agree with everything that ribbons is doing right now
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Old 2009-02-09, 02:27   Link #5
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my theory on Anew, is that she knows she is an innovator, but she is unaware of the motives of Ribbons, after all wang introduced her to the Vashti's so in a sense she isnt siding with Ribbons, she also might not be fully aware of her connection with Revive tho she knows he is her counterpart
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Old 2009-02-09, 03:55   Link #6
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I have to say Innovators had a better fashion designer in previous season.
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Old 2009-02-09, 06:59   Link #7
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I wonder if Innovator could have a kid?
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Old 2009-02-09, 07:04   Link #8
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I wonder if Innovator could have a kid?
Why wouldn't they? The only physical difference between a human and an Innovator is the presence of nanomachines within their bodies.
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Old 2009-02-09, 07:18   Link #9
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Hmm aren't their DNA also being manipulated? Even if they could have a kid their kid migh be infertile.


Why Innovator conside themselves as humanity next evolution. From my point of view they're more like a mutant
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Old 2009-02-09, 07:22   Link #10
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too late to start this topic - it's already 18 episode gone and 2 innovators dead already

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ask lyle since he tried
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Old 2009-02-09, 08:15   Link #11
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I wonder about their origin.


There must be a reason why Aeolia was able to create something like an Innovator while the rest of the world couldn't. Most probably it's something tech wise that Aeolia had and others didn't. GN Particles? Maybe the process of creation has something to do with manipulating the DNA so that it can adapt to the particles.
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Old 2009-02-09, 08:30   Link #12
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Ribbons i think is scary mastermind, he already know that Wang is double crossed both innovator and celestial being but he just let her, and also might be known that Regene is going to betray him but he also just let him do as he likes.... i wonder what Ribbons actually thinking
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Old 2009-02-09, 08:54   Link #13
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It seems that Regene is a believer of Aelio's cause. He really thinks that they are improving the human race. Ribbons, on the other hand, at time he seems rather power hungry, but sometimes seems really dedicated to the Aelio's cause at all. I predict Regene will backstab him, but then Ribbons is aware of it...
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Old 2009-02-09, 08:55   Link #14
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Ribbons i think is scary mastermind, he already know that Wang is double crossed both innovator and celestial being but he just let her, and also might be known that Regene is going to betray him but he also just let him do as he likes.... i wonder what Ribbons actually thinking

Ribbons may know the future actions of regene since he is the creator, although i am speculating, but regene may have a few tricks up his sleeve. 2 innovators down.. i still think revive will play a major role in the future; im not a fan BTW.. i wonder if ribbons know of the existence of the newtype world
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Ribbons may know the future actions of regene since he is the creator, although i am speculating, but regene may have a few tricks up his sleeve. 2 innovators down.. i still think revive will play a major role in the future; im not a fan BTW.. i wonder if ribbons know of the existence of the newtype world
he might only know abit, he was shocked to see wat the Effect of Trans Am 00 Raiser, creating the Quantum GN particles
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Old 2009-02-09, 10:56   Link #16
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I don't trust much of what Ribbon said about him being Regene's creator....
It just might be something to say to keep Regene from going further from betraying him...
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Old 2009-02-09, 13:35   Link #17
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Was there a pic posted here before showing an image of various scientists that disappeared in the decades after Aeolia's own disappearance, that had been shopped to show comparisons to the Innovators which may share genetic data from each?
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Old 2009-02-09, 18:00   Link #18
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I don't trust much of what Ribbon said about him being Regene's creator....
It just might be something to say to keep Regene from going further from betraying him...
But Ribbons said he is already aware of Regene's betrayal and that he doesn't care. In fact, he may allow Regene to do as he wishes because it may work to Ribbons' advantage.
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Old 2009-02-09, 19:28   Link #19
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But Ribbons said he is already aware of Regene's betrayal and that he doesn't care. In fact, he may allow Regene to do as he wishes because it may work to Ribbons' advantage.
I don't remember, care to tell what episode it was?
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Old 2009-02-09, 19:43   Link #20
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Was there a pic posted here before showing an image of various scientists that disappeared in the decades after Aeolia's own disappearance, that had been shopped to show comparisons to the Innovators which may share genetic data from each?
I called bullshit on it. For the simple reason that if you're going to use that as a way to nitpick comparisons. Very little was comparable, as the Innovators appear, physically somewhere around 18-20, and everyone in the images was 30-45 in all probability. The way people age and the way their facial structure would change eliminates any real comparison that might be possible. Furthermore, we have to remember that this is an anime. While keeping within the same style, there are really only soo many ways to draw a multitude of characters, to the point where there is an increasingly higher probability that the characters will share similarities between one another.

Moral of my explaination. Until it is established cannonically within the Manga or Anime, it is nothing more then speculation, and should be considered as such, PERIOD.
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