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bladeofdarkness · 2009-03-19, 20:37

he was not sociopathic
a sociopathic person is someone who does not register other people as people and views them as THINGS
sociopathic people are in cabaple of understanding that there are otehr people besides themselves
lelouch's entire plan was the purpose of making life better for OTHER PEOPLE and hence could not be called sociopathic in any way
it may be morally horrible and repolisive
but its not sociopathic

and while we dont know if he used the actual fleja bombs against targets
we do know that he killed alot of people before the end (there is a reason why he is so hated and feared)
and again this is not sociopathic or psychopathic (psychos do understand other people exist, and ENJOY hurting them) but simply an "ends justify the means" mind frame

just becouse his behavior is not on par with normal human behaivor it doesnt automaticlly suggest mental disorder on his part

azul120 · 2009-03-19, 20:45

Exactly.

By the way bladeofdarkness, is your tagline a Gurren Lagann reference?

Nobodyman9 · 2009-03-20, 00:10

Well, yvj keeps encouraging my creativity, so here's a short ditty to the tune of the opening to All in the Family. I made it as I was thinking of the good ol' days on the forum when were a bit...busier.

Subs awaited anxiously
Fans, they wouldn't let it be
Shirlulu was sky's OTP
Those were the days

And we chatted a lot then
Jeremiah was all skin
We all believed that Kallen's gumline was sure to happen

Li Xingke's old pedo bit
Schneizel wasn't just a git
C.C.xLulu was legit
Those were the days

bladeofdarkness · 2009-03-20, 06:37

yeah it is
i still having changed it since a few avatars ago
http://forums.animesuki.com/picture....ictureid=17596

Nogitsune · 2009-03-20, 11:54

Yep, Lelouch is definitely not a sociopath - that title goes to Light from Death Note already... and maybe Schneizel.
I wouldn't say a sociopath can't comprehend the fact that there are other people beside him, though... he's aware of that, just like he knows the difference between "right" and "wrong". He just doesn't really care most of the time.
As far as I know, sociopaths only experience a very shallow range of emotions, and tend to have no sense of guilt. Some other criterias - like being manipulating and cunning and appearing charming to those around them - fit Lelouch quite well, but not the truly important ones.
You don't need to be a sociopath to kill people without any hesistation. If that was the case, most characters in Code Geass were sociopaths, including Clovis, who, I'll admit, might fit some of the more important criterias quite well if it wasn't for his obvious attachment to Lelouch and the respective Sound Drama.
Lelouch is someone who will kill his own heart and "kindness" to achieve his goals in a matter of seconds. But he feels very strongly and passionatly, and can therefore hardly be considered a sociopath. His psychological issues (that he definitely has in my opinion) are much less "severe" than that and are mostly unhealthy for him himself.

incorrupts · 2009-03-20, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobodyman9

Well, yvj keeps encouraging my creativity, so here's a short ditty to the tune of the opening to All in the Family. I made it as I was thinking of the good ol' days on the forum when were a bit...busier.

Subs awaited anxiously
Fans, they wouldn't let it be
Shirlulu was sky's OTP
Those were the days

And we chatted a lot then
Jeremiah was all skin
We all believed that Kallen's gumline was sure to happen

Li Xingke's old pedo bit
Schneizel wasn't just a git
C.C.xLulu was legit
Those were the days

It is still my OTP. My first Geass OTP. I just learned to appreciate KallenxLelouch dynamic as well. I mean, i am allowed to like different pairings, if they cling to me. 8) ||same with CCxL, but it does not compare to the love i hold for the above mentioned.
And yeah, Kallen's gumline, that is quite..a hurtful story.

@Nogitsune:: You say in the beginning, that "he is definitely not a sociopath". Therefore, the "can be considered a sociopath", does sound a bit peculiar in the end of your post. ;;

Nogitsune · 2009-03-20, 15:12

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Originally Posted by incorrupts

@Nogitsune:: You say in the beginning, that "he is definitely not a sociopath". Therefore, the "can be considered a sociopath", does sound a bit peculiar in the end of your post. ;;

"Can hardly be considered a sociopath".
I hope you realize you just made me re-read the last few lines of my posting three times. xD

incorrupts · 2009-03-20, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Nogitsune

"Can hardly be considered a sociopath".
I hope you realize you just made me re-read the last few lines of my posting three times. xD

What, lol? Did you edit it or something? It originally said "can be considered a sociopath". I am sure about that. 8D

Nogitsune · 2009-03-20, 16:08

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Originally Posted by incorrupts

What, lol? Did you edit it or something? It originally said "can be considered a sociopath". I am sure about that. 8D

Errr... actually, no. xD
I think I edited it some seconds after I first posted it, but that was a long time before you answered, and it was about some minor thing.
If I'd edited it so many hours later and after logging out inbetween, the forum would probably tell you. xD

Edit:
And anyway, if you look at the context, everything but the "hardly" wouldn't make any sense. xD

incorrupts · 2009-03-20, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Nogitsune

Errr... actually, no. xD
I think I edited it some seconds after I first posted it, but that was a long time before you answered, and it was about some minor thing.
If I'd edited it so many hours later and after logging out inbetween, the forum would probably tell you. xD

Edit:
And anyway, if you look at the context, everything but the "hardly" wouldn't make any sense. xD

Yeah i know, this is why i am like "?". I am sure i saw "no hardly", thus i had the " context ". 8D

Anyway, i think we are playing with definition-of-words at this point, it can be quite a burning matter you ask me.

Nogitsune · 2009-03-20, 17:04

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Originally Posted by incorrupts

Yeah i know, this is why i am like "?". I am sure i saw "no hardly", thus i had the " context ". 8D

Anyway, i think we are playing with definition-of-words at this point, it can be quite a burning matter you ask me.

lol. xD
Oh well, I think I'll just stick with my "pschological issues*and be happy...
Errr, wait, that sounds strange. xD

And I really should stop listening to Stage 0.884.
One of these days, I'll totally start bawling. xD

youngde · 2009-03-21, 16:32

I just thought this was entertaining.

http://www.adultswim.com/americalove...nts/index.html

bladeofdarkness · 2009-03-21, 16:39

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Originally Posted by youngde

I just thought this was entertaining.

http://www.adultswim.com/americalove...nts/index.html

and thats not even including most of season 2

morbosfist · 2009-03-21, 16:44

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Originally Posted by youngde

I just thought this was entertaining.

http://www.adultswim.com/americalove...nts/index.html

"It's so easy to forget that you're naked. Oh wait, no it isn't. But wouldn't the world be a better, sexier place if it was?"

By far my favorite line from that set.

darenshan54 · 2009-03-21, 17:14

How do u watch that if you don't live in the U.S

FruitsPunchSamurai · 2009-03-21, 18:14

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Originally Posted by youngde

I just thought this was entertaining.

http://www.adultswim.com/americalove...nts/index.html

"Yes, mom, this is what we do at work. We watch this clip. Now you know."
Given the scene I kept help but laugh since it's so true.

yvj · 2009-03-21, 19:42

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Originally Posted by youngde

I just thought this was entertaining.

http://www.adultswim.com/americalove...nts/index.html

LOL Classic moments

youngde · 2009-03-21, 21:17

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Originally Posted by FruitsPunchSamurai

"Yes, mom, this is what we do at work. We watch this clip. Now you know."
Given the scene I kept help but laugh since it's so true.

Ah yes, the moment in the show where everyone watching was thinking, "What is she?........Aw, nasty!!! My eyes! It burns!"

Nobodyman9 · 2009-03-21, 22:48

What's this? Something highly amusing coming out of the AS website? Well, I never.

And number 1 is....ahh.

yvj · 2009-03-21, 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobodyman9

What's this? Something highly amusing coming out of the AS website? Well, I never.

And number 1 is....ahh.

Oh God Street Fighter so atrocious its fantastic.

The ultimate paradox

2009-03-19, 20:37	Link #4121
bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	he was not sociopathic a sociopathic person is someone who does not register other people as people and views them as THINGS sociopathic people are in cabaple of understanding that there are otehr people besides themselves lelouch's entire plan was the purpose of making life better for OTHER PEOPLE and hence could not be called sociopathic in any way it may be morally horrible and repolisive but its not sociopathic and while we dont know if he used the actual fleja bombs against targets we do know that he killed alot of people before the end (there is a reason why he is so hated and feared) and again this is not sociopathic or psychopathic (psychos do understand other people exist, and ENJOY hurting them) but simply an "ends justify the means" mind frame just becouse his behavior is not on par with normal human behaivor it doesnt automaticlly suggest mental disorder on his part __________________

2009-03-20, 06:37	Link #4124
bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	yeah it is i still having changed it since a few avatars ago http://forums.animesuki.com/picture....ictureid=17596 __________________

2009-03-20, 11:54	Link #4125
Nogitsune Shameless Fangirl Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Age: 33	Yep, Lelouch is definitely not a sociopath - that title goes to Light from Death Note already... and maybe Schneizel. I wouldn't say a sociopath can't comprehend the fact that there are other people beside him, though... he's aware of that, just like he knows the difference between "right" and "wrong". He just doesn't really care most of the time. As far as I know, sociopaths only experience a very shallow range of emotions, and tend to have no sense of guilt. Some other criterias - like being manipulating and cunning and appearing charming to those around them - fit Lelouch quite well, but not the truly important ones. You don't need to be a sociopath to kill people without any hesistation. If that was the case, most characters in Code Geass were sociopaths, including Clovis, who, I'll admit, might fit some of the more important criterias quite well if it wasn't for his obvious attachment to Lelouch and the respective Sound Drama. Lelouch is someone who will kill his own heart and "kindness" to achieve his goals in a matter of seconds. But he feels very strongly and passionatly, and can therefore hardly be considered a sociopath. His psychological issues (that he definitely has in my opinion) are much less "severe" than that and are mostly unhealthy for him himself. __________________ "I think of the disturbance in Area 11 as a chess puzzle, set forth by Lelouch." - Clovis la Britannia

2009-03-21, 16:32	Link #4132
youngde Unashamed Kalulu fan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NJ Age: 45	I just thought this was entertaining. http://www.adultswim.com/americalove...nts/index.html __________________

2009-03-21, 22:48	Link #4139
Nobodyman9 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: U.S.A. Age: 35	What's this? Something highly amusing coming out of the AS website? Well, I never. And number 1 is....ahh. <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/X8u7px_GzWQ">watch on YouTube</a>.</p>

2009-03-19, 20:45	Link #4122
azul120 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Exactly. By the way bladeofdarkness, is your tagline a Gurren Lagann reference?

2009-03-20, 00:10	Link #4123
Nobodyman9 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: U.S.A. Age: 35	Well, yvj keeps encouraging my creativity, so here's a short ditty to the tune of the opening to All in the Family. I made it as I was thinking of the good ol' days on the forum when were a bit...busier. Subs awaited anxiously Fans, they wouldn't let it be Shirlulu was sky's OTP Those were the days And we chatted a lot then Jeremiah was all skin We all believed that Kallen's gumline was sure to happen Li Xingke's old pedo bit Schneizel wasn't just a git C.C.xLulu was legit Those were the days

2009-03-21, 17:14	Link #4135
darenshan54 Member Join Date: Mar 2009	How do u watch that if you don't live in the U.S