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Old 2009-04-11, 02:56   Link #2081
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It's a separate disc.



Also, i took Rag Doll kung fu from a friend. It's a nice game, very entertaining. If you like fight games Smash Bros type, i recommend.
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Old 2009-04-11, 06:03   Link #2082
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Old 2009-04-11, 08:37   Link #2083
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FF 7 on Japan Store for PS3/PSP
Oh no... I just bought a used copy of Final Fantasy 7 last summer and not realizing it would actually come out on PSN... Oh well...

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hey guys just wondering if the FFXIII demo is on a separate disc to that of Advent Children... i need to know cause i'm kind of interested in getting it if it is on a separate disc due to the region lock on BD movies
Only game discs are region free... Not the movie... but the movie will play on a North American console since Japan and North America is in the same region code for Blu-ray.
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Old 2009-04-11, 19:09   Link #2084
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yeah i know bout the region free games... just needed clarification on whether the FFXIII demo would be on a separate disc which would be region free... cause i own an Australian ps3 which won't play the Region A stuff

unless the Advent Children BD is coming to Australia too... anyone have any news on that
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Old 2009-04-12, 10:51   Link #2085
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http://www.talesunion.com/news/artic...es-of-vesperia

Doesn't sound too good. I still hope to see the US version with dual voice, but it seems that the chance is quite slim now.
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Old 2009-04-12, 11:34   Link #2086
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First it was Vesperia will never come to the PS3 . Now its Vesperia will never be released for the PS3 in the US . Won't surprise me if the 360 fanboys say something like Vesperia will blow up your PS3 next .

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Look at the Japanese and North American boxart. Only the North American version includes the ONLY ON XBOX 360 logo. Even Star Ocean: The Last Hope's North American boxart doesn't have the logo, so Microsoft might have funded the localization of the game outside of Japan, which would explain why the logo was only on the North American version, and why it was released so quickly after the Japanese version.
There is no proof of this whatsoever that MS funded the translation . Everyone can speculate but no one will ever know . Also , it makes little sense for MS to fund the translation since the reason they wanted Vesperia and the other Jrpgs on the 360 was to push the 360 in Japan. PS , the logo bit is bull . MS sticks the logo on almost everything that comes to their platform first .
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The additions in Vesperia for PS3 push doubts even further. Considering the amount of new voiced material needed, these additions wouldn't be a quick job in the recording studio. As the PS3 is region-free, with so much dialogue, if the English voice actors weren't available to reprise their roles a delay is possible, encouraging import sales. Considering this version could be considered by some fans as a Director's Cut, they would be unlikely to pay again just to have the English version. This could also cause an situation where the original voice actor for any given character might not be available, leaving them to either forgo voicing the extra scenes for that character, or replacing them entirely, causing even more voice work to have to be done.
Oh yes so now everyone who wanted to play Vesperia has already played it? Give me a break , not everybody would buy a 360 just to play it . About the VA thingy , I've read that the script is about 1 page longer (From 5 pages long) . I believe Eternal Sonata for the PS3 was around that much longer so i don't see what the issue it . At worst , they would just not record the audio for certain scenes . Essentially all the voicework is almost done anyways .
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the Xbox 360 version will be released in Europe this summer. If the PlayStation 3 version was announced for North America in the next few months, how would the people who felt they got suckered into buying an "incomplete" version? Like the possibly voice actor delay, to maximize the sales of the European version, they would need to delay a North America version of the PlayStation 3 version, causing sales to go to the import version.
Blame MS? Moneyhatting everything screws everyone up.

To me all of this sounds like sour grapes on the part of 360 fanboys . While i do hope and expect it to come to the NA , all this bitterness and negativity from these closet 360 fanboys cracks me up.
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Old 2009-04-12, 11:37   Link #2087
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Oh, my god. Enchanted Arms sucks baaaaaaad. I borrowed from a friend and didn't play more than half an hour... Seing the boxart makes me remember of this game...
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Old 2009-04-12, 14:26   Link #2088
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I think this whole ToV discussion reflects the policies of MS and Sony.

MS likes to pay for exclusivity, timed or otherwise (including DLC... see Fallout 3 and GTAIV).

Sony on the other hand, likes to make developers add something extra to their late ports (e.g., Eternal Sonata, Red Alert 3, Bioshock and now ToV).

So really, it's your choice. Pick your poison.
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Old 2009-04-13, 16:53   Link #2089
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Oh yes so now everyone who wanted to play Vesperia has already played it? Give me a break , not everybody would buy a 360 just to play it.
Actually, it's not just people who don't own a 360, but also everyone in Europe (who doesn't own a US or chipped 360). To this day it's still not released here, although a summer release date is rumored.

With the announcement of a PS3 version I'm going to skip the 360 version altogether myself.
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Oh, my god. Enchanted Arms sucks baaaaaaad. I borrowed from a friend and didn't play more than half an hour... Seing the boxart makes me remember of this game...
The first few hours aren't great, but it does get a bit better later on. Some of the locations are actually quite nice. I do hate the character models though, they're too realistic without realistic emotions, so they're kinda flat.

What is great about Enchanted Arms is the Japanese VA for the lead female cast: Kana Ueda and Ryou Hirohashi. The Japanese VA for male characters sound like from yoai anime though...
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Old 2009-04-14, 01:23   Link #2090
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Sony on the other hand, likes to make developers add something extra to their late ports (e.g., Eternal Sonata, Red Alert 3, Bioshock and now ToV).
Sony doesn't have anything to do with that, it's mainly on the developer/publishers side of things that do that. The port of Oblivion for the PS3 doesn't have any special features and for most part you don't see many third party exclusives now a days.

Games like Bioshock and Red Alert 3 if I remember correctly came on late to the PS3 because of development issues, seeing as Bioshock was if I remember correctly slated to come for the PS3 as well before Take Two pulled the plug on it. It would be nice if Sony ponied up and got more developers only working on their console, but hell if you can at least get the games multiplat and then put more money into making your own first party game, all the better.

In any case, the NA box art for Advent Children looks better than the JAP, which is a shocker to be honest. I remember cursing loudly when I saw the NA box art for Metal Gear Solid 4 and then saw the JAP and PAL ones, what an ironic twist of fate this is.
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Old 2009-04-14, 02:56   Link #2091
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Sony doesn't have anything to do with that, it's mainly on the developer/publishers side of things that do that. The port of Oblivion for the PS3 doesn't have any special features and for most part you don't see many third party exclusives now a days.
Nope. It was part of an interview I read from Kotaku long ago.

Usually, they try to entice developers to make use of the advantages that is unique to their system. Whether that means adding content or simply using all that extra space in the blu-ray disc as they see fit is entirely up to the developers themselves.

Moreover, developers want to justify the full price of their late ports all over again, (hello Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2...) hence it's actually something that works for them.

Oblivion for the PS3 doesn't have exclusive content, but Bethesda polished it further and included the Knight of the Nine expansion in the disc. They also used all that extra blu-ray space to write the same sections of the game multiple times in order to improve disc reading speeds (which was also done to address the weaknesses of the medium itself).

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Old 2009-04-14, 03:15   Link #2092
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In any case, the NA box art for Advent Children looks better than the JAP, which is a shocker to be honest. I remember cursing loudly when I saw the NA box art for Metal Gear Solid 4 and then saw the JAP and PAL ones, what an ironic twist of fate this is.
Well, sort of. The JAP version is the same as NA version, except that is in black and white, but the limited edition in Japan got a beautiful box art by Shinkawa and that's should be the box art for NA too. It was a huge blowoff to see that after every game in the series with box arts by Shinkawa, we've got Snake's face from the game...
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Old 2009-04-14, 05:56   Link #2093
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A question. .does Eternal Sonata PS3 version will come out in NA ?

Vesperia won't come out in PS3 ? ;( is this some kinds of conspiracy to make fans
enthusiasm goes down ? xD;
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Old 2009-04-14, 07:52   Link #2094
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A question. .does Eternal Sonata PS3 version will come out in NA ?
Isn't that one out already? Otherwise, just import the European.

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Vesperia won't come out in PS3 ? ;( is this some kinds of conspiracy to make fans
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Actually, quite the opposite. The recent announcement confirmed the port. though whether it will come to NA is still unsure.
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Old 2009-04-14, 08:04   Link #2095
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Oh sorry, I've mistyped it. I meant that 'Vesperia won't come out to NA' not 'Vesperia won't come out in PS3'.

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Isn't that one out already? Otherwise, just import the European.
eh ? is that so ? o.O;
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Old 2009-04-14, 08:32   Link #2096
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Eternal Sonata is out since last year, hehe.
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Old 2009-04-14, 10:30   Link #2097
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What is great about Enchanted Arms is the Japanese VA for the lead female cast: Kana Ueda and Ryou Hirohashi. The Japanese VA for male characters sound like from yoai anime though...
You have Okiayu Ryotaro, Suwabe Junichi and Kishio Daisuke. That is yaoi enough.
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Old 2009-04-14, 11:20   Link #2098
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Nope. It was part of an interview I read from Kotaku long ago.

Usually, they try to entice developers to make use of the advantages that is unique to their system. Whether that means adding content or simply using all that extra space in the blu-ray disc as they see fit is entirely up to the developers themselves.

Moreover, developers want to justify the full price of their late ports all over again, (hello Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2...) hence it's actually something that works for them.

Oblivion for the PS3 doesn't have exclusive content, but Bethesda polished it further and included the Knight of the Nine expansion in the disc. They also used all that extra blu-ray space to write the same sections of the game multiple times in order to improve disc reading speeds (which was also done to address the weaknesses of the medium itself).
I'd like to see this article, because I'm pretty that the reason Bioshock and Red Alert came out later for the PS3 was because of development issues. Your second and third paragraphs does make sense, seeing as that is only a developer/publisher thing. Why would Sony force developers to add extra stuff to late blooming multiplats that probably no one will buy?

Do you honestly think Sony out of all people who aren't interested in buying anything third party from anyone, would waste their time trying to secure dropplets of little exclusive content for games that no longer really mean anything? I have a hard time believing anyone, Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo were the ones responsible for extra content in a year old game coming out on their console.

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Well, sort of. The JAP version is the same as NA version, except that is in black and white, but the limited edition in Japan got a beautiful box art by Shinkawa and that's should be the box art for NA too. It was a huge blowoff to see that after every game in the series with box arts by Shinkawa, we've got Snake's face from the game...
Wasn't the JAP and PAL version of the boxart Shinkawa's art compared to that boring and lame 3D render that Konami NA decided to go with? I'm pretty sure it was that because I steaming pissed after I saw that. At least the box art for the Limted Edition was great, but I wish I still had the other ones for my game cover. This reminds me of Snake Eater and the PAL version of their box art... man NA gets some major shitty ones.
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I'd like to see this article, because I'm pretty that the reason Bioshock and Red Alert came out later for the PS3 was because of development issues. Your second and third paragraphs does make sense, seeing as that is only a developer/publisher thing. Why would Sony force developers to add extra stuff to late blooming multiplats that probably no one will buy?
You are not understanding what I said. Sony isn't forcing anybody. Plus... multi-plats that no one will buy? Well, that's exactly why these developers have to add something in the first place. It's something that Kaz Hirai said. I read it on Kotaku, but I found it on Three Speech.

Q: What’s your policy on securing games exclusively for the PS3 from third parties? Because Phil Harrison changed the policy towards not paying for exclusives. Is that still the case?

KH: That’s something that we can re-evaluate, but it’s also something that the publishers need to make a business decision on. Ultimately, it becomes a dialogue – if it makes sense for them to go exclusive, that’s a business decision that they need to make. But generally speaking, because of the investments that publishers need to make in this round of hardware, it’s going to be more difficult for publishers to make that decision. Where we come into the picture is to have that dialogue with the third-party publishers, to say: “OK, what can we do together if it’s not exclusive that makes the PS3 version of the game more compelling for the consumers than any other version?” Let’s face it – all the games are coming out on a Blu-ray disk which has 50Gb capacity, so let’s put in some making-of content, or maybe additional levels. Also, it really becomes important for the first-party studios to really come up with some envelope-pushing, genre-defining content.


Interestingly, the discussions about Tales of Vesperia for the PS3 over at Kotaku has someone mentioning something that Shuhei Yoshida said regarding Sony's policy, but I can't confirm that.

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Do you honestly think Sony out of all people who aren't interested in buying anything third party from anyone, would waste their time trying to secure dropplets of little exclusive content for games that no longer really mean anything? I have a hard time believing anyone, Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo were the ones responsible for extra content in a year old game coming out on their console.
Like I said, the incentive for the developers to release new content is that they can charge full price again. Whatever reasons they have for delaying their game—be it timed exclusivity or development setbacks—they want to give gamers a reason to buy an old game. Bioshock, Red Alert 3, NGS2, Eternal Sonata... and now ToV. Sony doesn't really have to even discuss this with them, but they make it a point to do so nonetheless. Frankly, it isn't that hard to grasp.
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Wasn't the JAP and PAL version of the boxart Shinkawa's art compared to that boring and lame 3D render that Konami NA decided to go with? I'm pretty sure it was that because I steaming pissed after I saw that. At least the box art for the Limted Edition was great, but I wish I still had the other ones for my game cover. This reminds me of Snake Eater and the PAL version of their box art... man NA gets some major shitty ones.
No... The JP version was the same:



Yoji Shinkawa box in the limited edition:



And even the LE got Snake's face in the box, hehe. But it's true. With a box art so beautiful, it's a shame they've put that 3d render... With Snake Eater, at least they've redeemed themselves with the box of Subsistence, with MGS4, for now, we're stuck with this one...
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