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Old 2009-05-01, 01:24   Link #281
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I agree. No one is morally upright in the series, including Zwei aka Reiji himself.
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Old 2009-05-01, 01:43   Link #282
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Since when Phantom is about ethics? You watching a wrong show. As I said earlier, no one is clean or morally right in this story. It is all bunch of tainted souls trying to be human as much as they can under these conditions.

Even in game, Claudia is slightly MILF but she felt more like senior very wise girl who adept in playing people like puppet. The series just turn on this aspect of her higher.

There is always option of exiting this series. Why sticking around and get worked out? It is an entertainment, not an obligation.
WRONG! I have to watch many of these shows because I am doing a PhD on ANIME AND PSYCHOLOGY.

BTW: I know it is not about ethics but I am wondering WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY? Where is the FBI? Where is the police doing? There is not a single Mafia that is still safe so where are the ethics or someone who enforces them?

WE NEED THE GREEN BERETS! USA Special OPS.
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Old 2009-05-01, 01:50   Link #283
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That seems interesting...

I'd like to read up on that.
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Old 2009-05-01, 02:07   Link #284
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Claudia gave me a nose bleed
Yes, I too enjoyed the Claudia/Zwei hints on the show.
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Old 2009-05-01, 03:25   Link #285
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slayer545-sama: As a reminder, this is a story about a criminal organization. It is SUPPOSED to be nasty, dirty, unfair and cruel. This anime-original episode is

1) to establish that Inferno are true bastards

2) to establish that Zwei in "phantom" mode is an empty shell and will kill even kids and women
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Old 2009-05-01, 04:25   Link #286
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I think even though it was a comedy's act , Ein was enjoying the "date" . She needs more love lol .
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Old 2009-05-01, 05:18   Link #287
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Tranqs? You don't a silencer FOR THAT! You need a silencer for bullets. Darts DO NOT MAKE NOISE LIKE BULLETS.

It isn't a silencer...it is a suppressor. Second, people in special effects need to fire a real gun with a real suppressor on it. the only noise you hear is the bolt working when a gun has a suppressor on it. a dull clunk as the slide extracts the spent cartridge and chambers a new cartridge into the breach is all you hear.

Now back on topic.

Yes Zwei is a cold bastard, but it does get better as it goes on (well at least in the game it does)
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Old 2009-05-01, 05:46   Link #288
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i think I have to seize watching this series until the story about the Inferno betrayal within...
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Old 2009-05-01, 08:13   Link #289
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i think I have to seize watching this series until the story about the Inferno betrayal within...
One should enjoy the good with the bad. Betrayals don't arise from people thinking that an org like Inferno is bad. It's just an excuse to gain more power. If you think an org like Inferno is bad, you disappear as fast as you can and pray that they don't find you.

Very few people with morals exist in this title. It is a story about a mafia and hitmen dealing with other mafias.
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Old 2009-05-01, 09:13   Link #290
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In my opinion it's a bit pointless to presume he didn't slept with her.
Spoiler for minor gamespoilers, up til anime episode 5.:

By the way her ark was my favorite, due to it's ending. It lets you in Claudia's personality completely, and allows the player to see there's more to her than meets the eye.
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Old 2009-05-01, 10:59   Link #291
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In my opinion it's a bit pointless to presume he didn't slept with her.
Spoiler for minor gamespoilers, up til anime episode 5.:

By the way her ark was my favorite, due to it's ending. It lets you in Claudia's personality completely, and allows the player to see there's more to her than meets the eye.
As far as I am concerned sex was not revealed and I don't believe that. Zwei is feeling if anything would be for Ein. If it is in the game then they should animate considering it already has gore/dark elements some serious ecchi elements that they did it would be nice to have so to see really.

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slayer545-sama: As a reminder, this is a story about a criminal organization. It is SUPPOSED to be nasty, dirty, unfair and cruel. This anime-original episode is

1) to establish that Inferno are true bastards

2) to establish that Zwei in "phantom" mode is an empty shell and will kill even kids and women
Yeah, well I knew about that but hey this is a discussion and I like to discuss MY FEELINGS. Thank you for the words "TRUE BASTARDS" because that is exactly what I was thinking and still am. SOMEONE SEND THE SPECIAL OPS!

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It isn't a silencer...it is a suppressor. Second, people in special effects need to fire a real gun with a real suppressor on it. the only noise you hear is the bolt working when a gun has a suppressor on it. a dull clunk as the slide extracts the spent cartridge and chambers a new cartridge into the breach is all you hear.

Now back on topic.

Yes Zwei is a cold bastard, but it does get better as it goes on (well at least in the game it does)
Thanks for the definition but a silencer is also used as a term BTW. Yeah, I know because I played Metal Gear and they did the same thing with many weapons. Yeah the rest.....O_O I was in the army so I know.
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Old 2009-05-01, 11:22   Link #292
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You know guys, you don't have to bring in game spoilers to prove something that the anime practically is shouting on its own.

Anyone who watced a hentai or mature anime title knows what is implied when a female says words like "Amazing" in a bedroom and turns off the lights.
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Old 2009-05-01, 12:14   Link #293
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Well I'm sorry, but I can't provide any other proofs than that. If that's not convincing enough than so be it, but no one should expect them to show hentaii scenes in a 15+ TV broadcast, to acknowledge something so obvious for those skeptical viewers.
Edit: By the way I'm pretty sure when some future events going to happen, Zwei himself going to admit it. Everyone should feel free to think whatever he/she wants until then though.
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Old 2009-05-01, 12:20   Link #294
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She pretty much ordered him to get in her pants
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Old 2009-05-01, 12:43   Link #295
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Who's the good guys and who's the bad guys!? lol. Ms. McCunnen is banging. I'd be her bodyguard any day.

And they could have had her tell him to take his pants off and follow her into her room as she disrobes herself.
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Old 2009-05-01, 12:52   Link #296
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I had no idea this show would just get better and better. It was already pretty good.
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Fabulous BGM from Nanase Hikaru. And to give my own answer to DragoZERO's (rhetorical?) question: I think our heroes are the bad guys.
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Old 2009-05-01, 12:53   Link #297
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I just watched episode 5 That was a really good episode. Zwei shooting Eva and Duke was hard to watch but thats how things roll, when you are involved in that kind of business.

Claudia is one sexy ass skank, Zwei you should be happy that you got to beat that, I wouldn't mind staying over her house every night if I'm going to get the same reward.
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Old 2009-05-01, 14:34   Link #298
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Damn Phantom keeps on getting better. I like how Ein knows how to put on an act. I can't wait for next week.
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Old 2009-05-01, 15:13   Link #299
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Old 2009-05-01, 15:54   Link #300
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I just watched episode 5 That was a really good episode. Zwei shooting Eva and Duke was hard to watch but thats how things roll, when you are involved in that kind of business.

Claudia is one sexy ass skank, Zwei you should be happy that you got to beat that, I wouldn't mind staying over her house every night if I'm going to get the same reward.

Yeah, but what happens when she gets tired of you? Claudia is not a person to be trusted since she's in that line of work.
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