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Old 2004-06-22, 13:39   Link #21
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interesting theories there, but their fighting styles are far too diferent. if kabuto turned out to be itachi, it would have to be multiple personality.

Itachi uses mostly ninjutsu, alittle genjutsu, and sharangan. Kabuto uses mostly taijutsu, allittle ninjutsu, and soldier pillls. Also take note that itachi's techniques are highly destructive (even mentally,) while kabuto's techniques are medical and precise.
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Old 2004-06-22, 13:44   Link #22
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I'm sorry but I don't see what's so well thought out about it ...

check out #5 for example. They are both data gatherers? Yeh, the reason why Itachi knows about Naruto is because his misison is to capture him ... any reasonable ninja would like to know what he's dealing with. Kabuto doesn't know any more about Naruto than Kakashi, Jiraiya and any other adult in Konoha who had to deal with the fox 13 years back. While Itachi and his superiors want Naruto for a purpose that's beyond the common knowledge Kabuto has on his little card.
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Old 2004-06-22, 13:49   Link #23
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I'm sorry but I don't see what's so well thought out about it ...

check out #5 for example. They are both data gatherers? Yeh, the reason why Itachi knows about Naruto is because his misison is to capture him ... any reasonable ninja would like to know what he's dealing with. Kabuto doesn't know any more about Naruto than Kakashi, Jiraiya and any other adult in Konoha who had to deal with the fox 13 years back. While Itachi and his superiors want Naruto for a purpose that's beyond the common knowledge Kabuto has on his little card.
Like I've said, since he believes that kabuto is itachi, any evidence that may relate will be considered truth to him. >.< yeah, take jiraiya for example, he had to gather data on orochimaru to protect naruto. and the red eyes, it doesn't prove anything because it could have been anything.. but kingofwac did take a lot of time to do this ^-^ props for that hehe
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Old 2004-06-22, 13:52   Link #24
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Like I've said, since he believes that kabuto is itachi, any evidence that may relate will be considered truth to him. >.< yeah, take jiraiya for example, he had to gather data on orochimaru to protect naruto. and the red eyes, it doesn't prove anything because it could have been anything.. but kingofwac did take a lot of time to do this ^-^ props for that hehe
True . For something that is so farfetched it's excellent actually
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Old 2004-06-22, 14:04   Link #25
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time to solve all your stupidity....episode 81 Itachi is walking around with Kisame while at the same time Kabuto is talking to orochimaru back at the HQ.nuff said.
Psst.. King of Wack. Don't be discouraged by the minor set back brought by the above statement. There is a way to counter that argument. Tell them that was Kabuto's clone running around emulating Itachi. Liked your assessment on Kabuto in your theory #4. If you have more on Kabuto being Itachi, please share. It will be very much entertaining to see the sharingan-fans falling into despair of self doubt. Long live the strongest clan of Konoha who might not even have frozen sperm in their disposal to halt its own extermination. Like that quote Lexander. Niney is always fun to read.
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Old 2004-06-22, 15:10   Link #26
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hey .. u guys dont have to bash him like that ... his theory was good and was pretty well thought out, i dont think its true, but he did a good job at details with it instead of juss makin a thread and saying i think itachi is kabuto, like that gaara is the 4th thread
I'm pretty sure that other thread was created to make fun of this one. He wasn't serious, hence the smileys in his first post. I found it amusing.
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Old 2004-06-22, 15:30   Link #27
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Frankily I hope this isn't the case....however there is SO much evidence and it is very possible that Kabuto is Itachi in disguise. I doubt I can remember all the things I came up with but I will do my best.

1) Take a look at Itachi and Kabuto's hair, no they arent "exactly" the same but very similar with the hair split down the middle and the ponytail in the back. No other characters in Naruto have this.

2) It was stated that Kabuto arrived in Konoha 6 years ago as an outside survivor if the Amato War (I think this is the right name). This is mentioned in the episode where Kabuto quits from the 2nd test in the Chuunin exam. I find it pretty interesting that it was 7 years ago that Itachi destroyed the Uchiha clan and left Konoha. Coincidentally this kid "Kabuto" shows up in Konoha a year after Itachi left and somehow managed to survive a huge war. Only someone with very impressive ninja skills could do this.

3) In anime episode 88 at the very beginning right after Orochimaru kills his servant and Kabuto walks in, Kabuto states (this is not word for word but very close)...."I was away for a while and I already need to clean up this mess". Yes he indeed was away, just so you remember this takes place right after Itachi and Kisame run away from Jiraya's ninjustu.

4) Itachi and Kabuto share very similar characteristics. Neither of them get mad or lose their cool. The are both extremely intelligent and can get to people's heads by just talking. Both are very powerful (everyone assumes Kabuto is hiding something because he is a mysterious character) yet tend to avoid fighting if possible.

5) Both are data gatherer's. Itachi seems to know a lot about Naruto, he even states after he runs from Jiraya that "we don't need to worry about Naruto in his current state". Pretty funny he knows all this considering Kabuto has been observing Naruto the entire time. In episode 88 Kabuto claims to have knowledge about Tsunade from the Amato War. Interesting how he was collecting information even back then like he was on a mission or something...*hint hint* Read the spoiler below.

6) Kabuto isn't intimidated by Orochimaru in the least. A lot of people are waiting for Orochimaru to get killed and many people think that Kabuto has some hidden motive. In fact I find it funny in the episode where Sasuke gets owned by Itachi, Itachi notices the seal (doesn't say anything but it shows him looking at it) when Sasuke is on the ground. Then in the next episode he is telling Sasuke he is weak because he doesn't have enough hate, basically implying he MUST go to orochimaru. Something weird is definately going on here.


There are probably a few more things I could put on here but I think it is enough. For those of you who have read the manga and are trying to give me a counter example read below.

Spoiler:


Let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
1)...so?

2)read Lexanders post. But also at this time in naruto, Itachi is 17/18 and 7 years ago he would be 10/11 yrs old. Itachi killed the uchiha clan when he was 13. So you have a problem there....

3)meh...

4)kakashi also has similar characteristics and he is a mysterious character....he must be itachi too!

5)so what if there both data gatherers...data gathering is part of what a ninjas purpose is!!the whole thing about what tsunade did for/done for the war was as kabuto put it in ep 88 a landmark in history. So being a hystorical event and him once bieng in the medical squad he should already know this without the need of information collecting thus no mission to go on.

6)you don't know if he was looking at the curse seal. you just say that so it fits your theory.
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Old 2004-06-22, 15:38   Link #28
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not sure if it's the ep 81 thing ... but ... i think it was chapter 139 140 or 141 ...

Oro is chattin to Kabuto in hidden sound ... meanwhile Kisame and Itachi are chillin in a Konoha teashop.

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Old 2004-06-22, 15:46   Link #29
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Talking

Like one of the posters above me said, I can claim Kabuto to be a clone from kage bushin when he is talking to Oro and Itachi is fighting, this negates the counter arguement that Itachi would be in 2 different places at the same time. Anyway, to all of you saying im a dumbass, I think there are lots of coicendences that tie the 2 together. I've also mentioned twice that I hope my theory is wrong, but just because I noticed some interesting things doesn't mean anything beyond that fact that they were my observations.

No one should take this with anything more than a grain of salt....these were things I stumbled upon from watching Naruto over and over. Naruto is not a religion people, and just because someone has an idea that seems like bs to you doesn't mean that I am doing some horrific crime like a lot of you are making it out to be.


I can give counter examples to everyone who is trying to prove me wrong but that is not the point of my thread. I just wanted to share what I noticed with everyone and thats it.


Bottom line, no one knows whats going to happen in Naruto and thats the best part....everyone has their own ideas of what they think will happen or what they want to see in future episodes/manga chapters and it should be left as that
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Old 2004-06-22, 15:54   Link #30
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Bottom line is you're confused again.

A kage bunshin is harder to keep alive on distances. Basically to be in a village and have a shadow clone miles away in another village is impossible.
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Old 2004-06-22, 15:56   Link #31
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Claim all you want about the possibility of the kage bunshin clone, but it wrong. It is far too great of a distance to be clone
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Old 2004-06-22, 16:02   Link #32
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nice...its a good theory...
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Old 2004-06-22, 16:05   Link #33
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exactly! when Zabuza bade a bunshin when he put Kakashi in the water prison, Kakashi said that the bunshin couldn't go too far away from the real body.

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Old 2004-06-22, 16:09   Link #34
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I find it funny how you can basically say any 2 characters are the same with the kagebunshin arguement
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Old 2004-06-22, 17:32   Link #35
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Yeah, acctually there are only 4 characters in the whole Naruto story. There is Naruto (master of the advanced kage bunshin no jutsu) who made henge on all little children clones. So Team 7 and all the other teams are just clones from Naruto. Same with the senseis and jounins. Acctually there is only Kakashi. He enjoy to make one of his clones act like Gay-sensei, but he prefers to henge into Kurenai or Anko the most. Then there is Jiraya who does an indredible sannin-clone: Orochimaru and Tsunade are only Jiraya's clones. At last there is Sarutobi who does all the old clones and foreign ninjas. Recently one of his best clones got killed by one of Jiraya's. It was a real mess and Kakashi let all his clones fight against the foreign-ninja clones from Sarutobi. Naruto fought against his Gaara-clone and let the Sasuke-clone catch the Sakura-clone while he was crawling on the ground.

No, seriously . It was funny how he found some "evidence" that two persons are one single person. But come on... for every prove I know two other evidences that proves the opposide
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Old 2004-06-22, 17:40   Link #36
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Take off the tinfoil hat
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Old 2004-06-22, 18:11   Link #37
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wow....a lot of ppl just hating on this idea....
i think ppl just don't want to accept the truth...hehe...
i like it when people make some good threads liek this....where it actually makes you think for a second....hmmm...
honestly....they probably aren't the same people...but i appreciate you actually trying to think out of the box....i like it...since i personally think that kabuto and itachi aren't really "bad" guys....just my theory....
i like the thought though...keep it up
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Old 2004-06-22, 18:51   Link #38
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wow....a lot of ppl just hating on this idea....
i think ppl just don't want to accept the truth...hehe...
i like it when people make some good threads liek this....where it actually makes you think for a second....hmmm...
honestly....they probably aren't the same people...but i appreciate you actually trying to think out of the box....i like it...since i personally think that kabuto and itachi aren't really "bad" guys....just my theory....
i like the thought though...keep it up
I'm sorry the fact that I knew Kabuto is most definately NOT Itachi sorta got in the way of thinking for a second. Stating some smudged wrong facts don't make it deep ... did you actaully read the thread?


ooo ooooo I got one. Genma ... is actually Asuma ...

1) Take a look at Genma and Asuma ... what do you see ... that's right they both have something in their mouth ... No other characters constantly have something in their mouth.

2) [incorrect made up facts] It was stated that Genma became a Jounin at the same time that Asuma did. It's also interesting that we don't see Genma during the scenes that Asuma is training team 7... [/incorrect made up facts]

3) During his feild mission with Raidou, Genma gets ambushed by the sounds ... Where is Asuma huh? ... that's right he's not there.

4) Genma and Asuma share very similar characteristics. Neither of them get mad or lose their cool. The are both extremely calm and say tough things before entering the fight starts. Both are very skilled (everyone assumes Kabuto is hiding something because he is a mysterious character) yet tend to engage the enemy during fights.

5) Both are jounins of the leaf. Asuma seems to know a lot about Itachi, he even states that "what made you think you can come back to this town". Pretty funny he knows all this considering Genma was at the Jounin meeting the entire time and herd that 2 suspicious guys were in town making the obvious connection. Asuma claims to have been in the Amato War. Interesting how Genma is also old enough to be in the Amato war *hint hint*

6) Asuma isn't intimidated by the sound ninjas in the least. A lot of people are waiting for Asuma to Kill the sounds while Oro is escaping ... but he doesn't. In fact I find it funny in the episode where Genma gets owned by the sounds, that he says "don't underestimate the leaf," amost like he's not scared.

For all the scene that have both Genma and Asuma in ... LALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALa ... It's kagebunshin .. LALALaalala. *covers ears*


Guys ... I think I may be unto something.
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Old 2004-06-22, 19:06   Link #39
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how the hell can you think about creating a link between kabuto and itachi,

itachi ain't a medical specialist
kabotu's way slower then itachi
kabotu = no sharingan


WHAT THE HELL WOULD THE ADVANTAGE BE FOR ITACHI TO DISGUISE HIMSELF AS SOME LOW CLASS GENIN DORK SERVER OF OROCHIMARU

plz be gone
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Old 2004-06-22, 19:13   Link #40
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While I dont agree with you, its an interesting theory. The upcoming events seem to kill your theory in my opinion.
If you want another point, you can use Kabuto's glowing eyes or whatever from the chuunin exam when they are in teh forest of death or whatever. He was probably mad and the sharingan was coming through until he quickly realizes and regains composure.
naee...that was more of a sign that this Kabuto guy is not ordinary...and we got to see in the same episode or the next that he was a spy for orochimaru...can't have anythign to do with sharingan
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