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Old 2009-06-08, 20:48   Link #1101
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Saki is really strong when she can face to face with another player. But since she was doing +- 0 to avoid conflict in her family in the first place, that's probably her weakness, she can't play againts players that terrorize or preasure other players like her sister, that's why she lost in the cafe. It's almost like she was being dead stared by a snake.
I wonder if also she's just more sensitive to, well, the closest term would be, killing intent. She notices Koromo's aura from probably miles away. It's sort of interesting that the only two people with these types of auras are Koromo and Saki.

Edit: In the tournament that is. Others so far are Teru and Fujita like you said.

That being said, your theory definitely has a lot of merit and doesn't bode well for Saki's early play against Koromo.
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Old 2009-06-08, 21:58   Link #1102
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Bingo. Although I think that there's something up with Yumi, the club president as well.
I'll just note down this statement for now.
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Old 2009-06-09, 00:14   Link #1103
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Spoiler for speculation time!:


I'm reading between the lines, really.
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Old 2009-06-09, 01:17   Link #1104
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Spoiler for speculation time!:
She didn't break down though... Her family didn't have the money to get into Kazekoshi so she went to Kiyosumi. And she never wanted to leave the competition. Granted, she could have gone to the individual competition but according to her, she was more interested and wanted to go as a team.
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Old 2009-06-09, 06:24   Link #1105
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Hisa's "special power" has been foreshadowed multiple times in the show, including the preview for the next episose... Mako complained about how Hisa always "Chooses the waits with the worst odds". Not sure how that is a special power instead of just an unconventional playing style, but maybe it's exactly that unconventional playing style that is what throws off her opponents.
She seems like a greedy player and likes to win BIG with one hand to me

I was rather surprised at Mako being thrown off by a pure noob...what's more, said noob actually managed to crawl to 2nd place of the leader board...talk about luck(?)

But I have a feeling that Hisa will kick some serious ass especially since Mihoko shat bricks when realising that she faced off against her before. Kowaiii~
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Old 2009-06-09, 06:31   Link #1106
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Sometimes, beginner's luck is a bit of a skill. Since beginners usually play pretty chaotically, they automatically become the dark horse and may stump players who have advanced strategies in mind. Especially when discarded tiles figure so heavily into the Mahjong game, if you're doing it chaotically, then it becomes a bit of a weapon. I mean, even in fighting games (videogames), other card/board games, beginner's luck can actually wear down veterans from time to time because their tactics are either so chaotic or so pure as to how they play, it disrupts in-depth planning.
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Old 2009-06-09, 06:36   Link #1107
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Not if you know what kind of beginner mistakes they make.
Mako was right, if she had seen more newbies she would have won.
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Old 2009-06-09, 06:38   Link #1108
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Not if you know what kind of beginner mistakes they make.
Mako was right, if she had seen more newbies she would have won.
She didn't watch Kyou enough? Or maybe he isn't a newb, just not very good?
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Old 2009-06-09, 06:38   Link #1109
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I wonder when exactly Hisas power was foreshadowed? o_o I dont remember her seeing playing even once. Maybe my memory is bad. Im not watching previews so that is out too, seems like I have to wait for the next episode to see her awesomeness.

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She didn't watch Kyou enough? Or maybe he isn't a newb, just not very good?
We dont know how long Kaori and Kyou have been in their clubs. Maybe Kyou is just for a longer time playing mahjong. Maybe he studied before going to high-school. Maybe he just learns faster than Kaori. Or maybe he got better by playing with monsters like Saki/Nodoka/Mako/Hisa.

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Not if you know what kind of beginner mistakes they make.
Mako was right, if she had seen more newbies she would have won.
Have fun predicting moves of a novice. Thats as possible as winning with a rinshan kaiho regularly.

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What it also shows is how seriously cheating is considered, and how difficult it is to regain trust again. This is why Saki is very much a sports anime where something like Akagi isn't.
Im NOT planning to do it, but how exactly are you cheating in Mahjong? I mean sneaking in tiles wont work, it will be discovered the second 5 of the same tiles are open. Changing tiles on the dead wall would require VERY fast hands and still depend extremely on luck. I just dont see a way. Oh maybe changing tiles in your hand and your discards.
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Old 2009-06-09, 06:38   Link #1110
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I think it's kind of like in poker, you always see some amateur piss off the pros by playing unpredictably and recklessly, throwing their mind games off.
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Old 2009-06-09, 06:41   Link #1111
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I wonder when exactly Hisas power was foreshadowed? o_o I dont remember her seeing playing even once. Maybe my memory is bad. Im not watching previews so that is out too, seems like I have to wait for the next episode to see her awesomeness.
I can only remember the conversation between Mako and Hisa in episode 8, specifically at around 8:42.
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Old 2009-06-09, 06:53   Link #1112
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But I have a feeling that Hisa will kick some serious ass especially since Mihoko shat bricks when realising that she faced off against her before.
Well, Hisa will play against the weakest member of Kazekoshi, Seika Bundo, the former number 78 of the club.
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Old 2009-06-09, 07:25   Link #1113
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Well, Hisa will play against the weakest member of Kazekoshi, Seika Bundo, the former number 78 of the club.
Not anymore.
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Old 2009-06-09, 07:43   Link #1114
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I don't quite get Kazekoshi's player placement strategy though.

Especially Bundo's style later we'll see, she's more suited as the first player.
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Old 2009-06-09, 07:46   Link #1115
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I think it's kind of like in poker, you always see some amateur piss off the pros by playing unpredictably and recklessly, throwing their mind games off.
Exactly. Playing totally newbie style means you HAVE no style. So mindgames basically does not work, period.

Obviously, some games like Poker or Mahjong where discards and playing styles dictate the match benefits from newbie style rather than something like Chess where a newbie mistake could easily be exploited. But concealed hands are totally another matter. It's basically like Mu-shin or the no-mindedness martial artists and Bushido teach. Even after YEARS of practice and techniques drilled into them, they are taught to empty their minds and lose form to confuse the enemies and make sure no moves are seen. With newbies, that is already built into their circumstance.
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Old 2009-06-09, 10:03   Link #1116
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I don't quite get Kazekoshi's player placement strategy though.

Especially Bundo's style later we'll see, she's more suited as the first player.
Well, we know last year, Mihoko played the fukushou (vice-captain?) Touka but she notes that Jun really hurt them -- probably early in the match since Ryuumonbuchi's line up seems to be the same.

So apparently she felt she had to make sure Jun didn't go off so that Kazekoshi didn't start with a deficit. Her "special power" and her ability to hide in the flow and direct others toward Jun just seems to be a perfect counter to Jun.

That being said, yes, it is pretty perplexing! Maybe she just wants / hopes that the middle three players will lose points but at a slow enough rate that Kazekoshi will be equal and near the top going into the final round.
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Old 2009-06-09, 12:56   Link #1117
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That being said, yes, it is pretty perplexing! Maybe she just wants / hopes that the middle three players will lose points but at a slow enough rate that Kazekoshi will be equal and near the top going into the final round.
Her only mistake is underestimating Koromo.
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Old 2009-06-09, 16:02   Link #1118
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I'm just speculating, but something just hit me. Momoka's (the ghost girl) aura seems very similar to Fujita's aura in episode 4. Could there be some connection?
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Old 2009-06-09, 19:38   Link #1119
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Old 2009-06-09, 22:12   Link #1120
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After wandered around internet, I found something interesting.

OP2's name : [bloooomin']
ED3(?)'s name : 四角い宇宙で待ってるよ] (Shikakui Uchuu de Matteru yo)

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ANN also put ED3's name on their website

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ency...e.php?id=10527

..............................................

Tsuruga team in ED2 ^^ (Next is Ryuumonbushi's ?)


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