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Old 2009-06-16, 16:31   Link #20081
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Schneizel serves zero
zero doesnt need emotional support
zero also doesnt need FOOD while were at it
zero is a CHARACTER, suzaku is the actor
and its the ACTOR that can collapes for lack of support
asking Schneizel to comfort the ACTOR under the mask is risky
just picture what would happen the moment that Schneizel's mind starts to view suzaku as SUZAKU rather then zero
he has no loyalty to suzaku
only the character that he plays
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Old 2009-06-16, 16:55   Link #20082
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Can someone explain to me why you're all talking about Zerozaku and Schniezel in the Kallen thread?
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Old 2009-06-16, 16:58   Link #20083
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Can someone explain to me why you're all talking about Zerozaku and Schniezel in the Kallen thread?
its complicated
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:28   Link #20084
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Honestly, I don't even see Kallen going out her way to help Suzaku emotionally about being Zero about the burden(He accepted the role and seems ok with it). She has her own life to attend to than worrying about Suzaku(Which she never really did much of during the series). If Suzaku came to her for help, she'll more than likely tell him since he agreed with the role with Lelouch. He has to live with it.

I don't even think Suzaku needs any emotional help. If he does, Nunnally right there next to him. Nunnally being around him alot more often than Kallen.
Yeah, that's my opinion too. I think Blade is underestimating Suzaku's will of fire. I don't think Kallen would say "deal with it" if Suzaku wanted her help or something like that, afterall, it was lelouch's dream and that means a lot for her, but i don't see Suzaku seeking her aid at all. Suzaku got what he always wanted and Nunnally is always there to say "ganbare" for him, i think that's enough.

My idea of Kallen and Suzaku getting together was more because Kallen wanted to help Suzaku to achieve lelouch's dream, they get closer and things happen. That i can see happening. Not Suzaku looking for Kallen's help.
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:33   Link #20085
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Uh... sorry to burst in here and... possibly provoke wank (hopefully away from asuki) but...

wtf is this? http://i42.tinypic.com/r8fmdj.jpg

Gurren Lagann what? When did that happen? (yes, this is relevant)
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:33   Link #20086
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suzaku wont be LOOKING for anything
but if you think that SUZAKU is the one with the "will of fire" then you are forgetting that kallen is JUST as stuborn (possibly more)
what do you think would ever happen if you put the two of them alone in the same ROOM together in the future
i'd say that after talking it out and agreeing to put the past behind them
they could end up as friends again
and from there, who knows where it could go
not like suzaku has many other choices

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Uh... sorry to burst in here and... possibly provoke wank (hopefully away from asuki) but...

wtf is this? http://i42.tinypic.com/r8fmdj.jpg

Gurren Lagann what? When did that happen? (yes, this is relevant)
i think sky has a fan
a HATE fan, but a fan none the less
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:39   Link #20087
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Uh... sorry to burst in here and... possibly provoke wank (hopefully away from asuki) but...

wtf is this? http://i42.tinypic.com/r8fmdj.jpg

Gurren Lagann what? When did that happen? (yes, this is relevant)
Wtf is that? Where did you find this? I mean, someone hate Incorrupts because she compared Kalulu to gurren lagann? That's some crazy stuff, hehe.

Blade, my brothaaaa, why would Kallen and Suzaku would be in the same room? I mean, Kallen got her life now, Suzaku too, and there's nothing related between them now, just things from the past, so i don't think they got some time to spend together at all.
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:40   Link #20088
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I'm just confused about the Gurren Lagann thing, cause I'm fairly sure that has to be some kind of troll.
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:41   Link #20089
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one word
nunnaly
the like between them
and the reason why they are likely to meet many times in the future

@snowdevil_crow
sky made a post like that a few pages ago (or maybe in the RT)
look it up
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:41   Link #20090
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Unless Suzaku goes looking, which he's too proud to do, it won't ever happen. Kallen seems to have placed herself as far away from that life as she can. Even considering Nunnally, Suzaku would probably excuse himself.
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:43   Link #20091
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Wtf is that? Where did you find this? I mean, someone hate Incorrupts because she compared Kalulu to gurren lagann? That's some crazy stuff, hehe.
No, apparently i am hated, because that post i made was too epic, and it was not in favor of their ship, lol. So they hate me cause i am epic? Woah, nice. Thanks for bringing this up to my attention, i had not checked Fandom Secrets today, gonna reply there.

You can all go back to Zerozaku/Kallen now, lulz
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:45   Link #20092
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Wow, that link you posted Snow... Just, wow... And lol. What a bunch of crazy stuff.

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nunnaly
the like between them
and the reason why they are likely to meet many times in the future
Well, you got me there, cause i'm sure Nunnally and Kallen will meet sometime at the future, they developed a close bond between them, but i don't think it would be easy to extendo this to Zerozaku. It's not like Suzaku is with Nunnally all the time or that he will even get in their way sometime. At the last picture drama, Suzaku did not say a thing to them, even if he likes everyone there. That means something. I guess Suzaku died for real, there's just Zero now.
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:46   Link #20093
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Unless Suzaku goes looking, which he's too proud to do, it won't ever happen. Kallen seems to have placed herself as far away from that life as she can. Even considering Nunnally, Suzaku would probably excuse himself.
how long would it take nunnaly to start probing into WHY he does that
shierly tried her best to get suzaku and lelouch to being friends again, why wouldnt nunnaly try and do the same
she DOES know that kallen is one of the only people on earth who know who suzaku is, so it would be a terrible waste for them not to get along after all
how many other potential friends does he have ?
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:49   Link #20094
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how long would it take nunnaly to start probing into WHY he does that
shierly tried her best to get suzaku and lelouch to being friends again, why wouldnt nunnaly try and do the same
she DOES know that kallen is one of the only people on earth who know who suzaku is, so it would be a terrible waste for them not to get along after all
how many other potential friends does he have ?
Maybe he just doesn't want to stand around reminding her of the man she loved. Bad enough she has to see him on TV every now and then, it'd be annoying as hell to have him hanging around in the middle of their chat.
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:50   Link #20095
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@snowdevil_crow
sky made a post like that a few pages ago (or maybe in the RT)
look it up
Ah, I see.

Oh, hold on, I think I might remember seeing a picture or two.

... but honestly that secret doesn't even make sense xD
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:52   Link #20096
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Maybe he just doesn't want to stand around reminding her of the man she loved. Bad enough she has to see him on TV every now and then, it'd be annoying as hell to have him hanging around in the middle of their chat.
again
what makes you think nunnaly wouldnt try to play peace maker ?
what make you think that kallen actually THINKS of him in that regard
she does have his picture on her wall
again, i can TOTALLY see nunnaly trying to rebuild that bridge
especially since its practiclly the ONLY bridge he has left
and even MORE especially if the only reason that the bridge isnt intact is due to a misunderstanding on suzaku's part about kallen hating him
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:55   Link #20097
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again
what makes you think nunnaly wouldnt try to play peace maker ?
what make you think that kallen actually THINKS of him in that regard
she does have his picture on her wall
again, i can TOTALLY see nunnaly trying to rebuild that bridge
especially since its practiclly the ONLY bridge he has left
Well, what makes you think Nunnally would try to play peace maker?

Seriously, Blade, i don't think there's even a need for Nunnally to do that, i think everything is right between Suzaku and Kallen. Nunnally trying to get them together would be weird.
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Old 2009-06-16, 17:57   Link #20098
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Well, what makes you think Nunnally would try to play peace maker?

Seriously, Blade, i don't think there's even a need for Nunnally to do that, i think everything is right between Suzaku and Kallen. Nunnally trying to get them together would be weird.
i dont think she would try and hook them up
i think that any problems they might have taking that first step towards reconciling could and WOULD be solved by nunnaly (if such a problem really exists)

and about my reason why i think she would try and play peace maker
just think about this
how long would she stand to have the only two people she can talk to about her brother behaving like they cant stand to be in each other's company
especially when thats NOT the case at all
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Old 2009-06-16, 18:01   Link #20099
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But what problems? It was everything according to Lelouch's keikaku. If Kallen got some problem with someone, that person is Lelouch, not Suzaku. Kallen even said that she understood Suzaku's position till the final fight. I think they're pretty even and fine with themselves at the end of the series and both loved Lelouch very deeply and knows that. There's no resentment between them.

No need for Nunna to try and be the peacemaker when everything is already peaceful. Now let's grab a kalulu beer, blade.
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Old 2009-06-16, 18:05   Link #20100
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kalulu is already IN
but its also over in a way
it cant really go anywhere at this stage

and your making a basic mistake
everything i said about nunnaly is in the case where kallen and suzaku ARENT on speaking terms
if they are then nunnaly's not needed at all
but it also solves the main problem that you raised about suzaku not being willing to turn to kallen for support

P.S
suzaku and kallen have MUCH to sort out beyond ZERO-R
they spent a VERY long time as enemies
and there is still that whole refrain bit that could stands as a VERY big herdle to cross
kallen may be willing to accept him as zero, but that doesnt mean that everything is "right" between them
and thats where nunnaly could come in (if needed)
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