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View Poll Results: Valkyria Chronicles - Episode 12 Rating
Perfect 10 5 15.63%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 6 18.75%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 7 21.88%
7 out of 10 : Good 7 21.88%
6 out of 10 : Average 4 12.50%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 3.13%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 3.13%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 3.13%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2009-06-20, 13:14   Link #1
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Old 2009-06-20, 16:55   Link #2
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Found the episode. Concludes the Cordelia kidnapping two-part episodes.
Spoiler for Episode 12:
This episode had a lot more talking than I imagined. Still, it had enough excitement to be really good.
Spoiler for Next Episode:
Dang... the preview cut off before it finished...
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Old 2009-06-20, 17:04   Link #3
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omg....
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Old 2009-06-20, 19:05   Link #4
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Found the episode. Concludes the Cordelia kidnapping two-part episodes.
Since you asked, I will provide a few key points.

Spoiler for Episode 12:


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Old 2009-06-20, 19:19   Link #5
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Spoiler for ep12:
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Old 2009-06-20, 21:47   Link #6
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Welkin's attitude was amusing at first but now it has really grown old.

I like Kana, I mean Alicia, and I hope that idiot Welkin will mature some to not cause Alicia unneeded drama. Yeah, I'm going for the whole Alicia X Welkin thing, not the Alicia X Faldio. It's so much more amusing when Alicia and Welkins are together and interacting! Currently one is a one sided love and the other is a yet to be self realized love... hmm...
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Old 2009-06-21, 04:13   Link #7
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Old 2009-06-21, 05:58   Link #8
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Whew what an episode. A bit disappointed they only showed Selvaria glowing... what about the beat down! Can Selvaria even fight without her sword?

And zomgz, bombshell from Faldio. Dun Dun Dun

@Runty, to answer your questions.
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Old 2009-06-21, 08:06   Link #9
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Old 2009-06-21, 08:46   Link #10
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Ah, you are not giving him a complete answer. The key point here is that both Welkin and Alicia shared a mutual feeling that allowed them to sync their actions, in which Faldio wondered if it was trust or something else between them.

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Old 2009-06-21, 18:12   Link #11
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Ooh LOVE TRIANGLE. XD Anything with a Faldio is a ten. The bright side to all this is that Welkin's woodlike dense head will finally get a rocking. He annoyed me at first but now Welkin's awkward facial expressions are starting to look amusing. Must see more.
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Old 2009-06-21, 18:20   Link #12
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Valkyria anime seems to repeat a misconception found in many media of its kind. Many anime seem to suppose that if you are operating firearm, you can easily target your victim's limbs and easily avoid a deathblow even in the most compromising of situations.

Problem is, anybody who fired a gun before knows that its next to impossible to do. Nor is it ever the first thing that comes to mind.

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Ooh LOVE TRIANGLE. XD Anything with a Faldio is a ten. The bright side to all this is that Welkin's woodlike dense head will finally get a rocking. He annoyed me at first but now Welkin's awkward facial expressions are starting to look amusing. Must see more.
I must say, your logic is very amusing. Very amusing indeed. Somehow I get the feeling that if Faldio was female, you'd probably hate the character.

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Valkyria anime seems to repeat a misconception found in many media of its kind. Many anime seem to suppose that if you are operating firearm, you can easily target your victim's limbs and easily avoid a deathblow even in the most compromising of situations.

Problem is, anybody who fired a gun before knows that its next to impossible to do. Nor is it ever the first thing that comes to mind.
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Limb? Pretty sure he hit the guy in the shoulder (right) but you're just talking about shooting a guy in general and that there's always a chance that it's a deathblow?
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Old 2009-06-21, 21:39   Link #14
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Limb? Pretty sure he hit the guy in the shoulder (right) but you're just talking about shooting a guy in general and that there's always a chance that it's a deathblow?
Allow me to clarify, I am saying in many anime, it would not appear to be difficult to merely disable an individual through the use of firearms even under stress, and not actually outright killing the victim.

Many shows have depicted scenarios where characters fired guns at a target only to disable the victim's hands in order to disarm them, or to merely remove the weapon from the said victim's grasp. As someone experienced with firearms, I must say, such perfect aim is just not possible, especially under stress. That is, unless you are Rip Van Winkle. Though last time I checked, Welkin is only human.

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Old 2009-06-21, 22:16   Link #15
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Firing to disarm is not impossible, but it's a gift which few can master.

Also, Rip Van Winkle's musket is magical.
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Firing to disarm is not impossible, but it's a gift which few can master.
I hate to burst your bubble, but what you are proposing is not exactly a gift I'd consider wanting to have. Sure, it is very possible, give me 30 seconds of a standstill and I can pop a weapon off an operator. But I will tell you this, disarming a victim is definitely not the first thing to ever cross my mind when I am operating a firearm, let alone the situation being one where I am under stress. No sir, I aim to kill. My victim's survivability is the lowest of my priorities.

And ask yourself this, when was the last time you heard a police officer who deliberately shot a weapon off a criminal?

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Also, Rip Van Winkle's musket is magical.
And one only she can operate. So again, unless you are her, you are not going to have pinpoint accuracy.

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In Singapore, firing off shots means writing reports the length of the Golden Gate Bridge. Hence, most of our officers just don't bother. Tasers are more frequently used. Also, I guess Singaporean law is unique in the sense that if you're convicted of discharging a firearm with intention to wound or kill, you're going to be hanged.
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Question though...

Any incident with Singaporean law enforcers where taser weapons brought controversy like what happened in other parts of the world?
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Well, I'm not aware of any incident where the Taser caused a death. So, I think the weapon is relatively fuss-free over here.
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Well, I'm not aware of any incident where the Taser caused a death. So, I think the weapon is relatively fuss-free over here.
Well, throughout the world there have been plenty of deaths caused by the use of electro-shock equipment in police work. Taser blasts can have the potential to impair breathing and respiration. Some other safety issues regarding tasers are that it can cause heart attacks in certain subjects and can cause risks in someone who is in a state of excited delirium.

Tasers and other electro-shock weapons can be dangerous to use on people with certain medical conditions, but since police officers typically don't know about a person's medical history, there is a risk of death with virtually any suspect.
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