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Old 2009-07-06, 14:10   Link #261
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"Bara-Bea" sounds cute and short .

Or we could always just call her Go-chan (go= 5. heh.) .
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:19   Link #262
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Where was it confirmed that there is a shipwrecked character?
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:21   Link #263
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In one of those screenshots, who aren't confirmed but seem rather real~
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:32   Link #264
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I know the idea that the new witch is connected to or even the personification of Maria's rose has been thrown around already, but I arrived at the same conclusion.

1.) MARIA has been stated to be able to create something out of nothing. She turned a stuffed lion into a little boy and a bunch of bunny figurines into bunny-eared sniper girls, so turning a rose into a girl doesn't seem that far-fetched.

2.) The witch has several roses on her hat, and a red rose pattern on her pantyhose.

3.) Her dress is pink and white - which are the exact same colors as the candy wrapper George used to mark the rose.

4.) As stated before, the "Bara" part of Umineko no Naku Koro ni Bara can have several meanings, one of them being "rose".
Even better, the color of the sick rose itself in the anime is pink. In the novel the color of the rose has never been stated.

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Uhm, about Maria creating the Siesta Sisters... Sure, the bunnies were her toys, but the TIPS mention something about that the Siesta Corps were formed by Pendragon. Apparently, 451 & 45 are only being lend out to Beatrice due to a long relationship with the Pendragon family? I don't know if that's important in any way, but it the identity of Pendragon kinda bugs me since Ep 4. So yeah, has anyone an idea regarding that?
The Siestas are called "Pendragon's memorial troops". The animal orchestra was given to Maria from Rosa as a gift after she came back from a travel. memorial... souvenir... the concept is quite similar... but that of course would mean that Pendragon is Rosa ^^;

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I'd like to see the version proposed by Bernkastel... for the lols.
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:33   Link #265
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King Arthur. That's why they're so British, too.
Ah, okay thanks. And I was already excited to meet that Pendragon one day. |D~

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... but that of course would mean that Pendragon is Rosa ^^;
Thehe, our lovely Rosa is not only a Black Witch but also a dragon? %D

I still highly doubt that the new girl is a Beatrice, like the Beatrices we knew before. Only because she has no family crest. Heh, yeah, kinda nitpicking here.
Anyway. She could be some new kind of witch and putting an end to the succession of the Golden Witches. So to say, having no Endless Magic, and that she doesn't inherit the title of the Golden Witch by a former one. Which would explain the title and her portrait (violently taking the place of someone else).

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Old 2009-07-06, 14:33   Link #266
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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster. After looking at those revealing screenies of EP5 I am now going to reveal my theory on what game the are playing. I started this theory when I was in mid ep3 and only strengthened it after reading ep 4 and now reading that 3rd pic of ep5.

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I think that the big problem with this is that it means that it's impossible to deny the witch if in the very game they play, the game they're playing in Purgatorio is referenced. Nobody in game is supposed to actually know about that place (in terms of the game) or that they're part of a game, or else there's no way to arrive at a purely anti-fantasy conclusion.


As for the Siestas and Pendragon, maybe that's the name of the manufacturer?
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:35   Link #267
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To get a purely anti-fantasy ending the game shouldn't even exist
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:39   Link #268
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but technically "the end" becomes "JI ENDO" while "the land" becomes "ZA RANDO"

they are quite different from a japanese perspective
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:40   Link #269
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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster. After looking at those revealing screenies of EP5 I am now going to reveal my theory on what game the are playing. I started this theory when I was in mid ep3 and only strengthened it after reading ep 4 and now reading that 3rd pic of ep5.

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While I applaude you for this very creative and fresh idea, there is one major problem: With your interpretation, the epitaph would only be solvable from a Meta-POV, since it references the repeating events. However, this would make it impossible for any of the "pieces" on the board to solve it, which Eva managed in Episode 3. So unless she somehow had insight of the whole meta-duel between Battler and Beato, she shouldn't have been able to do it.
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:44   Link #270
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The truly significant thing here is

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Old 2009-07-06, 14:44   Link #271
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Even better, the color of the sick rose itself in the anime is pink. In the novel the color of the rose has never been stated.
I know, but I am more fond of the idea that the candy wrapper becomes the clothing of the personified rose, hence the color similarities.
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:50   Link #272
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:53   Link #273
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That actually makes sense D:

and yeah, I'm pretty sure she's Maria's rose... *and I'll keep saying it until the game proves otherwise*
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:53   Link #274
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...and someone dug him up and burned him in the incinerator?
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Old 2009-07-06, 14:55   Link #275
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I don't think it was really him in the incinerator... or if it was, then yeah maybe someone did that... to hide that he was actually

Spoiler for EP4:
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Old 2009-07-06, 15:03   Link #276
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The thing is that if it isn't him in the incinerator, but he's already dead, you have to figure out why Kinzo is dead AND his death is faked.

It's a lot easier to just combine the two events.
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Old 2009-07-06, 15:05   Link #277
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except you need to figure out how they dealt with the stench. But yeah my theory is quite far-fetched.
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Old 2009-07-06, 15:09   Link #278
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Oh, hi. =D/ I never talked here, and my english is a ****. I'm a brazilian girl and I love Umineko and Higurashi s2
I think that girl is like Hanyuu =/ You know, Hanyuu just appeared in the answers arcs and she is a ghost... Beato said that only have 18 people in the island, but and the ghost? >: And the dead body in the portrait may be is her body lol

.....Or may be she is just a ET, rs
(sorry if a said something wrong in english)
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Old 2009-07-06, 15:10   Link #279
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...and someone dug him up and burned him in the incinerator?
Which would also explain why the Rose suddenly disappears every time O_O

IT ALL MAKES SENSE
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Old 2009-07-06, 15:18   Link #280
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Or you could just say Gohda used the rose in his cooking, haha.
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