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Old 2009-07-16, 16:19   Link #61
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When tjalorak mentioned Kokushi-Musou, I counted Saki's discards and it looks like there are 7 (Kana had 8th when she throwed away Suanko), which is exactly number of tiles what she need to change, coincidence? Maybe
Personally I prefer to already finish it, because it's way too looong and if author decide to prolong it again by some bonus rounds anime will cover it first

Btw what exactly means 13 sided wait in case of Kokushi-Musou? To have all terminals/dragons/winds prepared and waiting for pair?
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Old 2009-07-16, 16:22   Link #62
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Of course, Yumi also sighed first before she made her first discard. I took that to mean her hand sort of sucked. Although she looked very cute sighing.
Hey! I took it in a "Alright. Here we go" way. I do that

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will cover it first

Btw what exactly means 13 sided wait in case of Kokushi-Musou? To have all terminals/dragons/winds prepared and waiting for pair?
Yes, that's correct.
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Old 2009-07-16, 16:23   Link #63
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Btw what exactly means 13 sided wait in case of Kokushi-Musou? To have all terminals/dragons/winds prepared and waiting for pair?
Yup. In which case, it would count as a double yakuman, I believe. A little bit of an overkill though.

First, I think it would be funny for Saki to win with a hand that her sister has won with before. That would really start the rumor mill running.

Second, hey, this time she'd actually take the ron instead of as in an earlier chapter when she let Yuki win instead of taking a 9 pin. Character growth! Playing for fun means no mercy in mahjong! Nodoka would be happy anyway.
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Old 2009-07-16, 16:51   Link #64
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Teru won with Kokushi-Musou? Interesting ...
Where was it mentioned? Can not remember it.

Anyway about rumour mill, it's already spinning high-spead and I expect question about her relation to Teru will be one of the first in interview.
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Old 2009-07-16, 16:57   Link #65
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Teru won with Kokushi-Musou? Interesting ...
Where was it mentioned? Can not remember it.
Actually, I think it was only mentioned in passing during the third hand of this final match, when Yumi was going for a Kokushi and Saki noticed, and was wondering whether to risk a Kan or not.
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Old 2009-07-16, 17:16   Link #66
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Anyway about rumour mill, it's already spinning high-spead and I expect question about her relation to Teru will be one of the first in interview.
Hahaha. The reporters are still in denial and no one else has put together Miyanaga as a last name right? They just know she happens to be a very good player. Given Amae's presence, maybe they just think she's another Amae who came out of nowhere.

Can anyone translate roughly what Fujita-pro says in this chapter?
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Old 2009-07-16, 17:47   Link #67
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Hahaha. The reporters are still in denial and no one else has put together Miyanaga as a last name right? They just know she happens to be a very good player. Given Amae's presence, maybe they just think she's another Amae who came out of nowhere.
They are in denial after first Rinshan Kaiho, after second they are only staring, later there is another one followed by Tsumo with 3 Kans. If they are not atleast currious then they are bad Mahjong reporters and if they don't ask about her family name then they are even worse

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Can anyone translate roughly what Fujita-pro says in this chapter?
My Japanese is far from fluent, so if I got it wrong someone correct me pls . How I understand it, Fujita-pro said her something like "She will be back for you".
And my english is far from fluent too, so sorry if it doesn't make sense
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Old 2009-07-16, 19:53   Link #68
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Fujita: She's... she's... hesitating...?
*smirk*
You're finally playing it/taking it seriously huh?
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Old 2009-07-17, 02:19   Link #69
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Ah, sorry, i thought tjalorak meant that pause chapter where Fujita-pro was talking to Koromo (btw where i got this, wasn't your post bit different tjalorak ). In #51 she is smirking over Koromo's hesitating as Proto said.
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Old 2009-07-17, 03:11   Link #70
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wah..that kana even destroy her tsumo just to take koromo down with her. it will be funny if koromo throw that 1 ball(I mean pin, we usually call it "ball" when we play mahjong, fun purpose) and then 3 people win at the same time .

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I thought "scooping the moon out of sea" is chinese mahjong only~~.
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Old 2009-07-17, 03:37   Link #71
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So. . this is the last hand ? o.o;
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Old 2009-07-17, 03:50   Link #72
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Hmmm i guess next chapter:-

Koromo discard 7 bamboo and she get double ron by Kana and Yumi...
And the point is back to all 4 can win... lol...
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Old 2009-07-17, 05:04   Link #73
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Hmmm i guess next chapter:-

Koromo discard 7 bamboo and she get double ron by Kana and Yumi...
And the point is back to all 4 can win... lol...
I think you meant 7 circles. The problem is that she doesn't have it. And even if she had it Kana cannot take with ron because she discarded it earlier. That means she is in furiten and cannot win from someone else's discard.

I'm also waiting when the reporters (and everyone else) gets to know that Saki is Teru's younger sister. That will be a major shock for everyone.

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Old 2009-07-17, 05:08   Link #74
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Yeah i forgot she furiten...
I really hope we get bonus hand with everyone have equal chance for win...
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Old 2009-07-17, 05:25   Link #75
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I'm also waiting when the reporters (and everyone else) gets to know that Saki is Teru's younger sister. That will be a major shock for everyone.
It will be shock even for her own team, I expect she told that story only to Nodoka and not anyone else

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Yeah i forgot she furiten...
I really hope we get bonus hand with everyone have equal chance for win...
I hope not, endlessly delaying inevitable is no longer fun.
Right now I'm fan of Kokushi-Musou possibility discussed above, because it will be real appropriate conclusion of finals which makes Saki stand out of bunch
Anyway, we will see in 3 weeks ...
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Old 2009-07-17, 12:05   Link #76
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Somehow I want the author going against all conventions and having someone apart from Saki winning. I just hate it when the conclusion is so foreseeable, yet you don't want it to happen. -_-
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Old 2009-07-17, 13:22   Link #77
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Indeed, but the problem with that is that then we'd have to go all over again.
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Old 2009-07-17, 14:07   Link #78
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Indeed, but the problem with that is that then we'd have to go all over again.
And without Hisa too! It's her first, last, and only try at the nationals.

I wonder if the manga-ka is going to cover the individual tournaments too.
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Old 2009-07-17, 14:57   Link #79
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Somehow I want the author going against all conventions and having someone apart from Saki winning. I just hate it when the conclusion is so foreseeable, yet you don't want it to happen. -_-
Hehe
unfortunately Saki mangaka limited possibilities to zero almost from the start
- Teru is 3rd year
- Nodoko will be forced to leave school
- Hisa is 3rd year too

if they loose, manga is finished, because all story driving points are wasted.

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I wonder if the manga-ka is going to cover the individual tournaments too.
Don't think so, we can presume team tournament is main event, so team finals will be last match of the day. Maybe some flashbacks, but what is point of that, story should move on.
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Old 2009-07-17, 16:19   Link #80
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I'm still a bit confused about the scoring on Saki's tsumo after 3 kans. Did she get the 2,000/24,000 points shown in ch49 or 8000 points from everyone in ch48? Also, what yakus did she have for that hand?

So far no one knows about the relationship between Saki and Teru besides Nodoka right? I would assume that Hisa might know, and also Fujita. I am also guessing that Mihoko (whatever the name of the captain from Kazakoshi) suspect it, and also Koromo. I am also guessing that Koromo played against and lost to Teru once before.

At this point (up to chapter 51), are the reportors still doubting any relationships between the two? I cannot read Japanese well, so I have no idea what the reportors are talking about.

Also, Fujita mentioned in previous episode that there had been 3 breakout players in previous years, and 3 siluhuttes. One being Teru, the other being Koromo. Who was the other one?
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