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View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi (2009) - Episode 07 Rating
Perfect 10 26 9.25%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 9 3.20%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 11 3.91%
7 out of 10 : Good 16 5.69%
6 out of 10 : Average 11 3.91%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 14 4.98%
4 out of 10 : Poor 9 3.20%
3 out of 10 : Bad 8 2.85%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 11 3.91%
1 out of 10 : Painful 166 59.07%
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Old 2009-07-23, 18:38   Link #261
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People tend to overstate the show's importance because they want to believe that it's an anime that changed the world... but it's still a little explosion on a remote corner of a distant moon... or something.
What the hell, relentless.

Anyway, still waiting for the subs...
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Old 2009-07-23, 18:42   Link #262
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Three. Years.

Three years with no anime. Two with no new books.

We've all been waiting. Day in, day out. Waiting for more Haruhi.

And they give us this. And tell us nothing. Nothing at all.

Three. Fucking. Years.
Okay, you win. No amount of logic, bursts of optimism, or attempts at understanding the situation rationally can possibly compare with "three fucking years" of pent-up obsessive fanboy frustration. I give.


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What the hell, relentless.
Don't ask me where that analogy came from, because I have no idea...
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Old 2009-07-23, 18:45   Link #263
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As a reality check, it sold well, but not that well. I don't know about "cultural stopping power". People tend to overstate the show's importance because they want to believe that it's an anime that changed the world... but it's still a little explosion on a remote corner of a distant moon... or something. If a Hollywood movie had the sort of returns the Haruhi anime had, it'd be seen as a colossal failure. Same with a major video game, even. It's all a matter of perspective, cost, and scale.
Within the niche of the anime community, it was pretty significant.

Right now it doesn't feel like it even qaulifies as an explosion of any kind. More like a fart.
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Old 2009-07-23, 18:45   Link #264
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Okay, you win. No amount of logic, bursts of optimism, or attempts at understanding the situation rationally can possibly compare with "three fucking years" of pent-up obsessive fanboy frustration. I give.
I'm just saying, try to look at it from the perspective of the angry fanboys.

I'm sorry if I offended you.

But, like I said, I don't believe logic or rationality has anything do with this decision. It doesn't make sense from any standpoint I can see.

Anyone here good at any kind of reasoning want to give it a try?
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Old 2009-07-23, 18:47   Link #265
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They are trying to lower people's expectations on Haruhi so they can get us in awe all over again,which was impossible at the start of hte season since the expectations where impossibly high.
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Old 2009-07-23, 18:50   Link #266
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Right now it doesn't feel like it even qaulifies as an explosion of any kind. More like a fart.
Well, hey. Every time Haruhi farts, the new fastest moving thread on AnimeSuki Forums results. That's gotta count for something.
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Old 2009-07-23, 18:50   Link #267
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Obviously Kadokawa / KyoAni trolling is obvious. Yamakan is god!

Now I've learned to check to make sure Endless Eight actually...ends, before wasting time to watch it. Haven't watched it for two weeks lol (this and last week)

Is there any possibility for Ordet / A1-Pictures to animate Haruhi? It's becoming rather obvious that all the real "creativity" or "innovation" that was in the original Haruhi series went with Yamakan. Takemoto and the rest of KyoAni doesn't have a single frigging clue what they are doing - I am going to watch the DVD sales tank (I myself included won't be buying the Endless Eight-packed DVDs for sure)


Obligatory 1/10 rating once again (my third straight 1/10 rating for Haruhi)
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Old 2009-07-23, 18:51   Link #268
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They are trying to lower people's expectations on Haruhi so they can get us in awe all over again,which was impossible at the start of hte season since the expectations where impossibly high.
Not many of the later stories are that awe-inspiring.

Makes SOME sense though. Any other ideas?

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Old 2009-07-23, 18:55   Link #269
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They are trying to lower people's expectations on Haruhi so they can get us in awe all over again,which was impossible at the start of hte season since the expectations where impossibly high.
A fanbase with to high of expectations is better than a fan base that has lost interest.
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:00   Link #270
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In complete and utter seriousness, I really think that they may be intentionally trying to kill the anime.

This feels a bit like End of Eva to me, or the Buu Saga in Dragon Ball Z - where one or more of the key people behind the anime are just sick and tired of the anime and/or are massively pissed off with the fans... and hence are sincerely and actively trying to kill the anime and/or piss off the fans.

Quite hilariously, this attempt to kill the anime in Dragon Ball Z's case resulted in the Vegeta/Bulma pairing that was meant to disgust fans but became the most popular shipping in the show.

However, if KyoAni and/or Kadokawa are deliberately trying to kill Haruhi they're much more coolly efficient than that. Honestly, this is now how I want to see them - as pure evil genius', like a great classic anime villain, trying to take down the Haruhi anime.

I prefer that idea to moronic incompetence on Endless Eight Kyon's level...
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:05   Link #271
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In complete and utter seriousness, I really think that they may be intentionally trying to kill the anime.

This feels a bit like End of Eva to me, or the Buu Saga in Dragon Ball Z - where one or more of the key people behind the anime are just sick and tired of the anime and/or are massively pissed off with the fans... and hence are sincerely and actively trying to kill the anime and/or piss off the fans.

Quite hilariously, this attempt to kill the anime in Dragon Ball Z's case resulted in the Vegeta/Bulma pairing that was meant to disgust fans but became the most popular shipping in the show.

However, if KyoAni and/or Kadokawa are deliberately trying to kill Haruhi they're much more coolly efficient than that. Honestly, this is now how I want to see them - as pure evil genius', like a great classic anime villain, trying to take down the Haruhi anime.
That's quite a bit contrived...
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I prefer that idea to moronic incompetence on Endless Eight Kyon's level...
... but I can understand this
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:09   Link #272
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They are trying to lower people's expectations on Haruhi so they can get us in awe all over again,which was impossible at the start of hte season since the expectations where impossibly high.
BRILLIANT!
Kyo ani is god tier trolls.
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:12   Link #273
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This feels a bit like End of Eva to me
But End of Eva, although intentionally a massive troll, was actually really really good.

Endless Eight is... not.

In the end, I think this will be more successful at doing what it was meant to do.

The word "end' appears three times in this post. Four now.
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:20   Link #274
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ROFL. Now it's torture, is it?! (Again, I suppose we could go with the "how do you think Yuki feels?!" bit. )

The only reason some people haven't "cracked" (and won't) is because they don't have the same degree of emotional investment in seeing the show continue right away. Rather than be angry about it, they're probably just looking at the show with detached, abstract curiosity/fascination. In other words, you only get mad if you take it personally. Most other people would just stop caring.
I think "they" are eventually going to lose this sense of "detached, abstract curiosity/fascination". And it might not even be appropriate to call this party a "they" since that faction seems to have been nearly whittled down from a plural to singular.
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:25   Link #275
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It could be argued that the time, money, work and art for five episodes has been lost.

All this isn't free, and when you see that it took three years for a new season (or whatever you wish to call this) for Haruhi, and that some other franchises are still waiting for their own follow-up (say hello to my avatar), I can understand that each episode wasted is painfully felt for fans. It's an episode that will not be spent into a good story...
I agree, it seems a waste more than anything. More nicely animated episodes of a series isn't a bad thing (even if it's the same one over and over...) However, the resources blown reanimating the same episode repeatedly could have been used to polish future episodes.

As it stands, Endless Eight has delayed more substantial content from being aired, and the wastefullness of its creation will be cited if any future Haruhi episodes are poorly produced or simply never animated at all.

Only if and when Haruhi series is completed animated without a noticable lapse in quality will Endless Eight lose it's stigma (and maybe be appreciated as 'extra episodes'). However, that's a pretty big if and a pretty distant when.

Fortunately, I'm neither a novel reader nor a Haruhi fanatic, so I can bear to wait with mild disappointment until some worthwhile Haruhi is animated. However, I am a fanatic of other things and fully understand the white hot murderous rage felt when your favorite story is being butchered before your eyes.
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I guess this season is endless eight.

Ah well, I stopped caring a while ago.
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:33   Link #277
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Do we all know the dialogue enough to follow along without subtitles? Maybe this is some Japanese trick to teach us all Japanese so that fansubs will no longer be a problem.
Spoiler for Differences and Items of Interest:
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:34   Link #278
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Would the people who are upset have rather had no Haruhi at all?

What if the show had just been further delayed instead showing E8s?

Im asking this seriously not trolling.
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:36   Link #279
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4. Haruhi shows jealousy when Kyon gushes over Mikuru's tea.[/SPOILER]
Dere Dere Haruhi

I gotta get the subs.

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Would the people who are upset have rather had no Haruhi at all?

What if the show had just been further delayed instead showing E8s?

Im asking this seriously not trolling.
It'd be worse, true.

Of course that doesn't change the current status.
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Old 2009-07-23, 19:36   Link #280
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