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Old 2009-08-07, 08:45   Link #101
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I'm guessing it's because they think that it's rather depressing from Saber's standpoint. The Grail turned out to be something different from what she wanted, so she was unable to fulfill her wish. Not only that, she has no real purpose other than to find a new 'conclusion' to her own life by viewing the life of Shirou because she sees how Shirou is similar to her, but ended up following a different path.

It's a 'slap to the face' to fans of Fate (the route) because at the very end, Saber was proud of her life, and thus accepted the concluding result that she has lived a good life as King and did not regret anything. This is different to UBW Good where she couldn't fulfill her wishes, and was unable to arrive at the same conclusion she did in Fate (the route), thus losing her 'conclusion'. Saber was reduced to someone who's purpose in life was to find a purpose in life. At least that's what from what I understand..

Of course, as a Saber fan, I don't see any problem with UBW Good 'sunny day'. It's as close to a harem ending as Shirou can get.

Now Ilya on the other hand...
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Old 2009-08-07, 09:18   Link #102
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Well, Illya's fate the same in every ending. Even in Fate.
I think HF true ending is close to harem too. Shirou's strickly monogamic in that, but
he has 3 girls(perhaps including Sakura) in love with him and he often sees them(as opossed to the UBW Sakura).

Anyways I hope they make Gilgamesh's GoB much better. As I said from a machine gun fire to a carpet bombing.
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Old 2009-08-07, 11:38   Link #103
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Well, Illya's fate the same in every ending. Even in Fate.
Spoiler for Got warned:

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Old 2009-08-07, 12:07   Link #104
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Put them in spoiler tags.
And spoiler for Illya's fate:
Spoiler for Visual Novels:
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Old 2009-08-07, 12:34   Link #105
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Put them in spoiler tags.
And spoiler for Illya's fate:
Spoiler for Visual Novels:
Spoiler for Origins of Archer:


Spoiler for Illyasviel:


I do wonder what length this movie will be.. two hours long like Rakkyo 5?
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Old 2009-08-07, 12:55   Link #106
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I know that rumor. I even teased Flinch(Illya's first knight) with it.
Anyways, I hope they make the movie at least 3 hours long. Even if it's not HF UBW has quite nice action scenes and I'm looking forward to all of them.
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Old 2009-08-07, 13:08   Link #107
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Put them in spoiler tags.
And spoiler for Illya's fate:
Spoiler for Visual Novels:
Well, you're talking about all of F S/N route's ends, so I'm not totally wrong.

You talk about sequel, which, I really don't know, so thanks for pointing it out.
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Old 2009-08-07, 13:11   Link #108
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droll, ive died and gone to heaven, eat it saber, eat it sakura, ubw is coming through pushing the fail train to the side. Hopefully they can catch the intensity, and the quirkiness of the relationship between rin and shiro, oh and no dragon please
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Old 2009-08-07, 14:34   Link #109
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In all honesty the CG dragon was the FUNNIEST part of the anime, save for the complete reversal of the date with Saber. Sadly, Ilya's body was rushed towards the end to prepare her to become the grail, in turn shortening her life span even more than it normally would've been.

Just imagine how different everything would've been had Kiritsugu managed to get Ilya away from Acht. I think Kiritsugu, Ilya, and Shiro all would've lived a very happy life together.
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Old 2009-08-07, 15:34   Link #110
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I thought the dragon was cool
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Old 2009-08-07, 19:07   Link #111
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I found the dragon to be entertaining... imagry. Ugly as hell, but entertaining nonetheless.
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Old 2009-08-07, 20:30   Link #112
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Since this is gonna be ubw, I'm looking forward to epic EMIYA music.
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Old 2009-08-08, 00:54   Link #113
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that is true, that is one of the most epic songs i know
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Old 2009-08-08, 01:51   Link #114
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I much prefer Die Lorelei. It's a... interesting song to say the least. For those of you who don't know what it's about, look it up: it's fairly entertaining. It was used as Ilya's theme if you're not aware.
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Old 2009-08-08, 02:46   Link #115
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I can't wait to watch this, whatever arc it may lead to.
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Old 2009-08-08, 05:20   Link #116
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Even if they repeat Fate?
And why do you think that DEEN will make a bad movie. Doesn't the fact that it's a film make overall animation etc. better??
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Old 2009-08-08, 10:34   Link #117
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Live-Action would be interesting, to say the least.
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Old 2009-08-08, 14:01   Link #118
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Live-action would be very, very interesting.
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Old 2009-08-08, 14:10   Link #119
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how can i see UBW , HF ?
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Old 2009-08-08, 14:47   Link #120
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You mean UBW and HF routes? Fate Stay Night has a manga. It's the slightly altered version of the UBW route. Not to mention the anime has some parts from UBW(mainly on the Rider and Caster arcs).
But for certain? Play the FSN game. FSN was originally a Visual Novel made by Type Moon. In the case if you doesn't know what kind of game is it: It's an interactive story, with pictures(and some effects), sounds and perhaps biunch of text to read. In short an interactive novel with certain choices in various parts. The original game is Japanesse but thanks to Mirror Moon an english patch's downloadable for it. Currenly the HF part of the VN hasn't got an anime or even a manga yet.
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