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Old 2009-08-12, 23:07   Link #10421
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He will indeed, but after this latest chapter, it kind of proves that he needs more training.
With time and a few more battle he will learn training can only go so far. Experience get you further. Tsukane is making tremendous progress with the few that he has taken on so as more people he fight seriously he will most likely improve.
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Old 2009-08-12, 23:12   Link #10422
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Main thing is when that holy lock is gone, we'll he able to control himself or want a human hamburger. I'd be more worried about that, then his fighting skills. Of course I guess that might go hand in hand. Although with this new arc, I get a feeling Fairy Tale will come calling...
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Old 2009-08-12, 23:13   Link #10423
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When it comes to training, remember, this is still shounen: the main guy will always need more training, no matter how powerful he gets
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Old 2009-08-13, 01:02   Link #10424
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I guess the anime IS accurate on the "growth" effects when Moka is unsealed. Fun fact, yes?
LOL...I thought that was just stupid fan service in the anime!

Funny how the physical changes, with exception to the hair color and eyes, don't show up at all in the manga though. Probably due to the fact that those are Japanese measurements, the physical changes aren't all that much noticeable. In reality she went from a full B-cup to a smallish C-cup. Not that noticeable of a change and definitely not over-exaggerated like the anime....but still nice

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Old 2009-08-13, 06:30   Link #10425
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When it comes to training, remember, this is still shounen: the main guy will always need more training, no matter how powerful he gets
And the bad guys will always get stronger, no matter what! haha.
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Old 2009-08-13, 08:55   Link #10426
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^ Spoken like a true lolicon.
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Old 2009-08-13, 09:53   Link #10427
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And the bad guys will always get stronger, no matter what! haha.
And then the hero will have to train even more to become stronger!

Ah, how I love shounen.
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Old 2009-08-13, 11:37   Link #10428
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So our top good guys tiers are :

Ura-Moka, Gin, Tsukune(ghoul/vamp) and Yukari.

and mid tiers are Kurumu and Mizore.

Pretty much I agree with guidebook seeing it logically and through monster books and research, witches do pose more of a threat due to spells, seeing her control Tsukune with the voodoo doll is a threat enough to have you controlled by her. Ruby probably should be as the same level as Yukari since both are witches.

So Mizore is a Sagittarius...Hmm the archer. No wonder she hit my heart with her arrow now Iam in love and frozen... lol j/k

Also I thought Kurumu was a D...she was a Gcup! ZOMG!!!

Also looking at Ruby and Moka in the anime Ruby seems taller right? But I guess due to her shoes that has higher heels rather than of a school shoes makes her look taller. Man I love R+V the guidebook!

Probably the guidebook will keep this thread alive in this month. Thanks alot GrrDraxin for the insights and data on the guidebook.
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Old 2009-08-13, 11:45   Link #10429
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Yukari is a low tier, why the hell would you think she's in the upper?
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Old 2009-08-13, 11:46   Link #10430
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Yukari is a low tier, why the hell would you think she's in the upper?
In the guidebook it says that her threat level out of 5 is a 4.
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Old 2009-08-13, 11:48   Link #10431
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Ok then Who's the Top Tier when it comes to MOE?

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Old 2009-08-13, 13:21   Link #10432
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Hey, where'd you get those images? I know(some of) those are from the ps2 game. They need to include inner Moka. But in the words of Tatewaki Kuno, "Argh! Whichever shall I choose?! I love them all!" *wham*

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Yukari is a low tier, why the hell would you think she's in the upper?
That becomes clear when you average the power of ALL witches and not just Yukari and Ruby. Remember that Yukari's father is also rated as a 4. So I'm guessing that they take the average of all the witches seen to date Yukari, Ruby, Ruby's master, and Yukari's mother into account for their power level to come up with that number. Just like Yukari's father probably represents all magic using males, to which we've only seen him to represent so far.
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Old 2009-08-13, 16:32   Link #10433
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Old 2009-08-13, 21:11   Link #10434
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Sadly there is no Inner Moka closeups only outer, many I need to get that game.

as for Kyero Fox's images. Like M.Bision says in SF. "YES THIS IS DELICIOUS!!!!" pics of Mizore I mean.
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Old 2009-08-13, 22:06   Link #10435
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I wonder how we'll handle an extra month of waiting...
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Old 2009-08-13, 22:17   Link #10436
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Well if we have more questions about the R+V characters and other baddies we can ask GrrDraxin.

Also I wanted to ask. Was Daddy StarBucks or Moka's dad mentioned in the guidebook along with his wives and Moka's sisters?

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Old 2009-08-14, 02:38   Link #10437
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Well if we have more questions about the R+V characters and other baddies we can ask GrrDraxin.

Also I wanted to ask. Was Daddy StarBucks or Moka's dad mentioned in the guidebook along with his wives and Moka's sisters?

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Yes you can ask me questions. Nice Miz image, though it's a shop, but all good.

Uhm, who's Daddy StarBucks?

And no, Moka's father was not mentioned that I could tell. The book only has subjects covered in the manga thus far. Though Kahlua is mentioned in some detail.... but nothing outside of that, since the book was published right around the Snow Village arc of the story. There is also no mention of Moka's eldest sister. Not even the 4 sister image seen when Kokoa and again for Kahlua appeared, not a hint of it.

There is a relationship diagram for the major characters. It's setup in a way that most of the NP club members are the core group including Gin. However since this latest arc with Sun-sempai, there may be a smaller update companion book published to help cover the latest additions.

They also have a section that intermixes some Claymore characters and info. Though I have no clue what significance it has to R+V. I suspect that it may be Ikeda's own fanfiction of it.

There's a character mini Q&A. A section for things like the school overview, but not anything for a floor plan, and other locations around the school. The Bestiary detailing 32 monsters/characters, and a small section for the monstrels. As well as a detailing of the making of R+V, such as the studio layout and equipment and tools used.
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Old 2009-08-14, 02:55   Link #10438
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Daddy starbucks is an inside joke due to the names of the daughters that we've meet so far ex. Moka=Mocha, Kokoa=Coco, and Khaula
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Old 2009-08-14, 03:24   Link #10439
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Daddy starbucks is an inside joke due to the names of the daughters that we've meet so far ex. Moka=Mocha, Kokoa=Coco, and Khaula
Ah, I see now, I'll have to remember that. Hmm, it'd be interesting if we find out that Starbuck is the middle name (even if they don't use it) of one of the sisters, or of their father. I can hardly wait to see what Moka's oldest sister's name is.

I'd be very disappointed if it didn't have anything to do with coffee, chocolate, alcohol, or any kind of drink. Since it's a common theme that their names are some sort of drink, and it has to be a murky brown drink at that.

I guess the DBZ quirk of naming people after various "things" leaked it's way here. Saiyans being vegetables, Bulma's family name about under garments and such. But then they did do a Dr. Slump parody during the growing drops arc, so no surprise there.

Fun thing to do: input the kanji of each character's name into a translator and see what comes out. It's entertaining when using various different translators on the web.

Also, yongshun, is that Mizore with a gun in your sig? Or is it a shop, cuz I don't recall Mizore ever holding a gun like that.... ever. Moka and them, yes. But not Mizore.
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Old 2009-08-14, 07:26   Link #10440
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Yes you can ask me questions. Nice Miz image, though it's a shop, but all good.
Glad to here that.

No that's not shopped, it's the actual DVD ripped where nipples, non-bats on the panties and no smoke or lighting filters are taken out..

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