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View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi (2009) - Episode 11 Rating
Perfect 10 43 28.10%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 39 25.49%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 30 19.61%
7 out of 10 : Good 22 14.38%
6 out of 10 : Average 12 7.84%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 1.31%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.65%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.65%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 1.96%
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Old 2009-08-24, 12:47   Link #241
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But it doesn't work as well for this type of show (Haruhi) where drama and tension are as important as any humor. Perhaps if they tuned the art depending on the mood like some shows do (rather like a very mild form of hyperdeformation)?
Might be that. These first episodes (EE and Sighs part I and II) have a really light tone, so the new art is not really a problem. It will be, however,on part III or/and IV. Lets wait and see how they are doing it.
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Old 2009-08-24, 14:32   Link #242
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But it doesn't work as well for this type of show (Haruhi) where drama and tension are as important as any humor. Perhaps if they tuned the art depending on the mood like some shows do (rather like a very mild form of hyperdeformation)?

Haruhi is above using general anime stylistic effects. One of the reasons I originally liked it.

Shame it doesn't use pratfalls though.
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Old 2009-08-24, 14:38   Link #243
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Haruhi is above using general anime stylistic effects. One of the reasons I originally liked it.

Shame it doesn't use pratfalls though.
Agreed on liking the absence of stylistic effects... the first season had a lot of parallel to "dramedy style" like Hataraki Man (or even Kanon 2006). I guess like Heatth said, we'll see how it works on the 'serious' episodes upcoming.
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Old 2009-08-24, 14:42   Link #244
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Haruhi is above using general anime stylistic effects. One of the reasons I originally liked it.

Shame it doesn't use pratfalls though.
This is true. However, it would be better if the style get more serious when we arrive in that scene. K-ON! style don't fit at all!

See like that: This episode had a better art then last week's. The next one might follow improving.
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Haruhi is above using general anime stylistic effects. One of the reasons I originally liked it.
Agreed. I liked how Haruhi avoided the more cliched anime stylistic effects.


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Shame it doesn't use pratfalls though.
What do you mean by "pratfalls", exactly? I'm not sure what the term means precisely.
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Old 2009-08-24, 14:50   Link #246
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Old 2009-08-24, 14:53   Link #247
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Look up "Three Stooges" or "The Marx Brothers"
Hasn't poor Mikuru suffered enough already? Please, think of the moeblobs!
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Look up "Three Stooges" or "The Marx Brothers"
... Ah, so slapstick comedy and humiliation then?

Hhhmmm... this is a hit and miss for me personally. Bakemonogatari plays this perfectly, but I've seen other anime overplay it badly (a lot of harem comedies come to mind).

Also, I'm not sure which Haruhi character I would want to inflict the pratfalls on... it would ruin Koizumi's image and style, it usually doesn't feel right to me when it's done to female characters, and Kyon suffers enough as it is.

Edit: Maybe trade-off Haruhi's crazy financial penalties for Kyon suffering pratfalls. It would be funnier, and make more sense to me.
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Old 2009-08-24, 15:03   Link #249
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Perhaps "pratfall" is the wrong term... normally, it simply refers to falling on one's ass.

A better word would be "facefault", I suppose.

But you know what I'm talking about. Character A says something silly or unexpected. Character B falls over from the shock.

It's one of my very favorite anime comedy tropes, and I'd love to see it used in Haruhi if it could be.
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Perhaps "pratfall" is the wrong term... normally, it simply refers to falling on one's ass.

A better word would be "facefault", I suppose.

But you know what I'm talking about. Character A says something silly or unexpected. Character B falls over from the shock.

It's one of my very favorite anime comedy tropes, and I'd love to see it used in Haruhi if it could be.
Oh, now I see what you mean. Really exaggerated over-reactions, precisely like what Bakemonogatari does. Yes, that's truly hilarious, and I love it too. Kyon could use some variety to go with the facepalm, agreed. And it would be neat to see Haruhi "faint" over Kyon saying something particularly annoying to her, or see Mikuru go into shock over one of Haruhi's plans.
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Old 2009-08-24, 15:10   Link #251
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Tsuruya needs to be in there somewhere. She could fit either roll, though if she's the "faller", then she'd obviously be cracking up afterwards.
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Old 2009-08-24, 15:17   Link #252
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Oh, now I see what you mean. Really exaggerated over-reactions, precisely like what Bakemonogatari does. Yes, that's truly hilarious, and I love it too. Kyon could use some variety to go with the facepalm, agreed. And it would be neat to see Haruhi "faint" over Kyon saying something particularly annoying to her, or see Mikuru go into shock over one of Haruhi's plans.
I disagree. Facefaut are funny, but would feel unrealistc in Haruhi. Kyon did have one, on Live A Live, though. Taht one was well done, because it wasn't instantaneous. It was growing on his face. Also, if he did it every time, that scene wouldn't be as funny.
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OR, Haruhi magically flipped that part of the video in post-production using her special powers.
Hahaha, the novel readers know that the editing of the video was quite "magical."

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Hasn't poor Mikuru suffered enough already? Please, think of the moeblobs!
Why do we care about what happens to Mikuru so much? She turns out fine (very fine ).

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Old 2009-08-24, 18:16   Link #254
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Is it just me or has Haruhi been answering to questions that Kyon only asked in his inner monologue?
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Is it just me or has Haruhi been answering to questions that Kyon only asked in his inner monologue?
Happens all the time in the light novels... it happened a couple of times during first season.
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Is it just me or has Haruhi been answering to questions that Kyon only asked in his inner monologue?
Kyon's face is like an open book... and Haruhi had become a master in reading it.
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Old 2009-08-24, 18:24   Link #257
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My only problem is that the style doesn't seem to work well with Haruhi. Still, I've long gotten over that and really, the art style typically doesn't bother me.

Edit: Also, yeah. "Mind reading" has been done by Haruhi and Itsuki, I'm not so sure about Yuki or Mikuru though.
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We could assume Kyon mutters more than he realizes... or that something more intrinsically strange is going on
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OR, Haruhi magically flipped that part of the video in post-production using her special powers.
then it wouldn't look the same......
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Old 2009-08-24, 22:00   Link #260
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We could assume Kyon mutters more than he realizes... or that something more intrinsically strange is going on
This is the way I always took it too. Sometimes he's simply letting things slip under his breath. Other times like when she guessed that he viewed the town search with Mikuru as a date was by the expression on his face.
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