2009-09-01, 12:56 | Link #2024 | |
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Spoiler for ep5:
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2009-09-01, 19:30 | Link #2026 |
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Serious inquiry: Possibility of Furudo Erika being the culprit.
Before anyone say anything: Yes, I know about the red texts. Yes, I know about Knox #1&7. Yes, I know ura-tea party heavily hints that Battler is the one did it. Spoiler for Intro:
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As argued, Erika isn't complete off the hook. Perhaps no one is ever off the hook unless they died before the game happened (then you get the whole legacy-murder possiblity).
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2009-09-01, 20:20 | Link #2027 | |
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And I'll admit that I don't like the idea and would view it as mostly a cop-out to label her. The two witches do seem to view everything as one giant game, with appropriate moves like bringing in Ange and Erika between the various games. Due to that, I do in fact view Erika as a newcomer and hence count her out. That said, a question I have about her: Spoiler for Erika and Shkanon:
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2009-09-01, 20:28 | Link #2028 | |
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Also Antera Caramichael, aout what you said on the chapel key... Spoiler for Episode 2:
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2009-09-01, 22:07 | Link #2029 | |
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2009-09-01, 23:36 | Link #2030 | |
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2. Furudo Erika increasing count doesn't matter. Furudo Erika (meta) doesn't have to be the same as Furudo Erika (real world). Just like meta-Battler doesn't necessary equal to real life Battler, even in ep1~4. Side: Shannon=Kanon theory is still alive. I've already aruged it about 10 pages back. It even got a bit bigger becuase of the analysis of the red text regarding Shannon and autumn. Because Berun is in control of piece-Battler from time to time (smart comments and support of Erika), and LD also controls piece-Battler from time to time (Kinzo's study)
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2009-09-02, 05:15 | Link #2033 | |
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Not only do Shannon and Kanon look oddly alike, (same facial structure) until EP5, Battler had never seen them in the same room. Since Erika's POV is the only one to be trusted in EP5, though, Ryukishi did a thing with them in the same room from Battler's POV as a red herring xDDD Basically, the theory is Shannon\Kanon doesn't exist or died so Kanon\Shannon dresses up as them. It would lower the person limit and give way for a Person X, but it would also ruin our canon ships. xDD Last edited by Volcanic; 2009-09-02 at 07:31. |
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2009-09-02, 06:45 | Link #2034 | |
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From an anti-fantasy perspective you can't say that, you need to imagine they did all those things by their own will, but those behaviors are completely at odd with rationality.
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2009-09-02, 16:46 | Link #2035 | |
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Let's say that a nearly infinite number of kakera exist, each with a different possibility. If the witches have some leeway to choose which kakera the games take place in, then they can "control" certain actions as long as those actions could possibly be logically consistent. Though the characters' behaviors might not seem consistent at a glance, there could be hidden factors and missing scenes that explain most of them. Well, I don't think it's quite that simple. Again, remember what Ronove said at the beginning about this game "having no love". Put that together with my meta world theory. There's a chance that Ronove was referring to the large number of "falsehoods" in EP5. That means there's likely to be several scenes that are simply not true (probably every scene where pieces talk to the Meta World). However, I'm pretty sure that a huge part of the game is at least close to the truth, or Ryuukishi wouldn't have made a core arc out of it. Here's a bit of my crazy theory to try and explain Erika's actions in EP5. Again, just a theory. (Sorry it's a bit rushed, busy with translation stuff) Spoiler for Erika is the 'culprit' theory:
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2009-09-03, 11:30 | Link #2039 |
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Spoiler for .:
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Edit: Of course, if you subscribe to certain other Kakera theories, you can get a different explanation. It's not necessarily true that each kakera is a different universe.
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