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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 12 Rating
Perfect 10 77 44.51%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 57 32.95%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 22 12.72%
7 out of 10 : Good 11 6.36%
6 out of 10 : Average 4 2.31%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 2 1.16%
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Old 2009-09-17, 04:47   Link #81
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(and probably the rest of the arc)
Let's not get our hopes up now. Remember episode 6 (first episode of Turn) was done really well too.
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Old 2009-09-17, 05:10   Link #82
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"Normal practice"? Lol what.
I've seen it done a lot, especially in video games, actually.

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Let's not get our hopes up now. Remember episode 6 (first episode of Turn) was done really well too.
But, but, they HAVE to do this arc well.
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Old 2009-09-17, 06:12   Link #83
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The OP changed is very nice than the previous one, hope the ED will also change...
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Old 2009-09-17, 06:24   Link #84
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I liked the new OP too ^^ Especially how Jessica and Kanon are *together* Hehe~
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Old 2009-09-17, 07:03   Link #85
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Old 2009-09-17, 07:05   Link #86
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In Turn, Beatrice is portrayed wearing the ring when she gives Shannon the brooch. Also, Maria gets the letter a little after noon.
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Old 2009-09-17, 07:10   Link #87
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Hm, now let the game beginn once again....but this time Bernkastel will play a more important rule.....but i wonder anyways what role she took in the previous episodes as she didn't deny that she was not only an observer.

Also, i was like wtf. .... 2 Beatrice? So i guess it is a title to obtain and Maria wants to become the next Beatrice? Still riddled about that.

Also that young Eva appearing in Eva's head....is this the work of Bernkastel?

Rosa killed the "real" Beatrice ? _o Now my head is twisting.....

I am really thrilled how the game this time will alternate from the other ones.
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Old 2009-09-17, 07:29   Link #88
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Hm, now let the game beginn once again....but this time Bernkastel will play a more important rule.....but i wonder anyways what role she took in the previous episodes as she didn't deny that she was not only an observer.

Also, i was like wtf. .... 2 Beatrice? So i guess it is a title to obtain and Maria wants to become the next Beatrice? Still riddled about that.

Also that young Eva appearing in Eva's head....is this the work of Bernkastel?

Rosa killed the "real" Beatrice ? _o Now my head is twisting.....

I am really thrilled how the game this time will alternate from the other ones.
Young Eva is a figment of her regrets and anger of not being considered a capable heir to the family, as emphasized by her flashback.

The reality of "Rosa killed Beatrice" will be revealed in the nest episode so there's no need so far to wrack brains over it.
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Old 2009-09-17, 07:30   Link #89
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I like episode 12.~

Was one of the episodes without coloring errors.
But my friends (anime-only) are like "WTF.", because of the new characters in the OP and Rosa saying that she killed Beatrice.
They really wanted to know more but I won't tell them, mwahaha. <D'

Overall a good episode, I hope they'll keep up the great work. (Please, DEEN. )

Does anyone know why it's "Sacrifice a sheep to god" at the end of the ED?... D:

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Old 2009-09-17, 07:31   Link #90
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Rosa killed the "real" Beatrice ? _o Now my head is twisting.....
Genji said that Beatrice died some time before in ep5 ^^
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Old 2009-09-17, 07:31   Link #91
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initially got a bit annoyed by some weird(if not crappy) graphics that would look bad if got screencaptured, eg. Loli Beatrice. I cannot enjoy the loli-ness because the drawing of her face is just so inconsistent.
Went back to see the OP again once I read people commenting on it, like the changes, but then again, got disappointed by lamdaDelta's eyes......but it's only like 1 sec anyway...

I am kind of fussy on the animation inconsistency, but I thought the whole episode is quite tight if not possibly skipped a lot of critical scenes(and thankfully according to people here that it's not). Love the Endless Witch's (I'll just call her that since I am yet to know the other Beatrice's title/name) outburst and Battler's comment after the beach scene.
now with Sugita providing Ronove's voice, I am allowed to laugh at whatever he says right?
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Old 2009-09-17, 07:54   Link #92
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Agh, I was hoping to hear Battler's "Please, let it end......!" but oh well, I know it wasn't necessary.

Good episode, and I love the new opening. I wonder what the portrait will become in Episode 4 though
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Old 2009-09-17, 07:55   Link #93
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Liked the new OP, certainly better than the previous
Evil young eva surely is good to see
Virgilia's VA was really good and funny to see a young Beato.
And for finish Ronove was awesome to see and listening xDD
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Old 2009-09-17, 08:06   Link #94
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Well, like everyone said, it is a great episode, and I absolute love the new OP XD

However, I may be wrong or mishear it but they left out the "Call me Beato" part in the previous episodes and now Battler started to call her Beato out of nowhere (in their discussion about the number of person)
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Old 2009-09-17, 08:16   Link #95
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However, I may be wrong or mishear it but they left out the "Call me Beato" part in the previous episodes and now Battler started to call her Beato out of nowhere (in their discussion about the number of person)
Yea I was just going to say the same thing, she never even gave him permission !

Nothing bad I can say about the episode, although I imagined Ronove to be a bit different. The opening had some cheap looking transitions but also some nice animation.
Briefly, a great episode
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Old 2009-09-17, 08:19   Link #96
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So is beatrice having the ring before getting the ring a mistake or a clue?
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Old 2009-09-17, 08:23   Link #97
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First thing - Spoiler in Opening really piss me off - but the rest...
Why can they do right only flashback episodes? This one was allright for most of time. Nice directing and nice screenplay. Even the music was used right. When compared with the scened from EP2 it almost feels like watching different series. However its too late, that should start in EP2 when the metaworld scenes started.

Evas flashback should be longer - "Hey I am your younger self do you remember? Sudenly believe in magic and all will be alright." - thats just not enough.
No smoking Rudolf and Hideyoshi on boat. Also skipping the scenes with Battler and seven Sisters and than mentioning it looks kinda stupid.
I dont like Renove - hes not slick enough. He looks and speaks like submissive homosexual than a one of the most powerful demons that works like butler to kill some time.
Last scene where Rosa suddenly says she killed Beatrice was out of place.

There was a lot of very lazy animation (the inheritance discussion scene again, beach scene) on the other hand few scenes were done really well (Eva flashback, Metaworld).

DEEN is trying to make the series graduating just like VN was graduating through all episodes. But the novel started at high quality and was only adding more awesome parts, DEEN started very poor and is slowly through mediocre quality to actually good one. I still expect next espisodes to fall in quality again, just like it was in second arc.

EDIT: I forgot one Minor fail - "Beatrice" with opened eyes.

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Old 2009-09-17, 08:33   Link #98
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EDIT: I forgot one Minor fail - "Beatrice" with opened eyes.
I'm sure you forgot more, please rewatch and than play through the VN scenes so everyone knows what they're missing out

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Old 2009-09-17, 09:03   Link #99
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First thing - Spoiler in Opening really piss me off - but the rest...
One thing that I find very funny is that why you mention them as spoiler Supposing you take an anime only viewer stance, actually it serves more like anticipation boost and/or curiosity baiter. I mean, like the OP animations would be a spoiler if no one has not said anything about it, they would only be "might be" spoilers if you know what I mean ^_____^
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Seriously, VN purists are their own worst enemies.
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