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View Poll Results: Valkyria Chronicles - Episode 25 Rating
Perfect 10 6 11.76%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 4 7.84%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 8 15.69%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 9.80%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 3.92%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 3 5.88%
4 out of 10 : Poor 4 7.84%
3 out of 10 : Bad 2 3.92%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 1.96%
1 out of 10 : Painful 16 31.37%
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Old 2009-09-22, 00:48   Link #81
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Alrightyyyyyy! Since some people think my poll was rigged for Fabio to win last time (just because there was 13 votes for Fabio and none for the others...) I've decided to make a legit anime VC favorite character poll.

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If it's missing characters that more than 2 people will actually vote for, let me know.



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BTW Sassarai, have you ever though of making a site for all your Funky Tags you make. They are funny, and cracks me up LOL.
I'll think about it if I get enough requests. Kinda embarrassed over my funky jobs so I usually end up deleting them sooner or later. I keep my good ones (that I actually spend more than 5 mins on) in my "Half arse" album on my profile page though! I even shot a artistic picture of a bum sleeping on a bench while I was in San Fran!



I was thinking about making that image of DBZ Alicia into a comic. Something like...

Alicia: Her power level is over 9000. Why is she so strong?
Selvaria: It is because I have someone important that I must protect!
*Selvaria knocks Alicia to the ground*
Alicia: I also have people important to me that I must protect!
KYAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!! *fangirl-ish scream*
*Stabs Selvaria*

The end.

That would be a great reenactment of episode 24 o_O Then I got super lazy!

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Old 2009-09-22, 05:35   Link #82
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You have forgotten that it is Faldio who found out that Alicia is Valkyria even though it causes a single tragedy. But the results ended in preventing a complete loss to the Gallian army.
There is no certitude about it

As you mention code geass. I haven't seen it to be honest. But I have counter examples.
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1. Record of Lodoss war: Parns dad, Tessius, who has got striped from his ranks although he deserved higher discipline, because he saved Fawns daughter from an allied nation and it was forbidden to save her. Tessius acted against this order and saved his daughter.
Tessius have been punished to disobey to the order, he was no longer a knight. And it's not him who save the daughter of Fawn, it's Parn many time later.

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2. National Treasure 2: Ben Gates, who has kidnapped the president to retrieve the Book of the Presidents. He also got pardoned at the end.
Ha, ha ha, you are talking about one of the more incoherent movie of the last years. The first Ben Gates was good, but the second is really bad.






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She is a Darcsen. Now start thinking what you have learned about the first episodes about the Darcsen then you know why they are being ignored or avoided.

In addition think about who the Darcsen may be in the real world dring WWI and WWII.
Why are you talking about the WWI? The WWI have nothing to do with the Jewish.

Isara is the daughter of the most notable man of Bhrul, A war hero. And she live here until her birth. Brhul is not a big town, It's really impossible that nobody know her.



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First of all, Alicia was a town militia soldier. Nothing more than a town squad with not very effective basic training or combat experience. She learns with the time to get the situation better handled. Also military ethics surely were assigned to her with her new role as a sergeant.
But she fight during the battle of Vasel, She have experienced War at this moment, why did she fear to fight in the Fifth episode and not in the forth?



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Soldiers only have to obey orders if they are reasonable or if they are not committing a crime to the Humanitarian Rights or something equal to the Geneva convention in VC world.
Damon don't tell them to commit a crime to Humanitarian Rights in the fifth episode.
And why Alicia give order to Faldio and Welkin who are her superior.




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Are you serious? Their no way that a spray like that fix a wig.

I have wear some Wig for spectacle, and even If a wig don't move during common activity, It move during intense exercice.
The only way to fix a wig to your head durin intense activity is to shave your hair and stick it to your head with special glue.



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Because he was convinced it has to be Alicia. The Ragnite piece reacted on Alicia but not on Cordelia.
Did he try to use the Ragnite piece on Cordelia?

and if he is convince that Cordelia is not a Valkyrur, Why is he so suprised when she tell him in the episode 23?



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Because the Squad was already assigned to the front ending up as canon fodder for Selveria. Not being on time will mean that Alicia can get a disciplinary act after the mission.
Another reason can be that she requested to stay in the camp.
Alicia said to Faldio that her unit waiting her. And She is second officer of Welkin, Do you really think she can going talking to Faldio without nobody knows?



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Because Tanks are noisy and they are in the middle of a battlefield?
Are you serious? You really think that the military camp with all the officer and the princess could be in the middle of the battlefied where some sniper or tank from the ennemi could shoot them?

No, the military camp is away to the Battlefield. something like 2 or 3 Km.



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Even if they were seen the soldiers would not have intervened just to be sure that the princess remains unharmed until Faldio reaches a place where he is vincible and the princess will be in no harm.
There is sniper in an army, it was easy to them to shoot Faldio with no problem



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They were kids and a lot of time was inbetween so they may have forgotten each other in the meantime.
there is no certitude about it and why did she remember during the battle, then?


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That is what is in question. From game side. Damon was a total idiot gathering all regular troops together. Selveria wiped them all out in a blaze of glory with exceptions of some militia troops and Squad 7.
but in the game, the militia notice the Marmota, they try to stop it and trap it.


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Because tanks can be a hindrance in urban fights. Urban fights without a tank is more flexible and therefore the Edelweiss is kept behind.
So why did they use Tank during the battle of Vasel and during the capture of Brhul?
It was Urban fight.

And until Malberry Show, the Eldelweiss have a fantastic weapon for Urban fight, the smoke bomb created by Isara.
But the creator of the anime have forgotten that.
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Old 2009-09-22, 06:03   Link #83
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Why are you talking about the WWI? The WWI have nothing to do with the Jewish.

Isara is the daughter of the most notable man of Bhrul, A war hero. And she live here until her birth. Brhul is not a big town, It's really impossible that nobody know her.
Sorry but you failed the game and the anime. Isara has been adopted by Welkins father. She is Darcsen heritage (maybe a war orphan, can't remember that exactly. She has dark (black) hair and she wears a scarf like the Darcsens wear in tradition

Even though she is adopted by "normal" her heritage cannot be denied nor does she need to deny because she is accepted as she is by her stepfather and brother.

As I take WWI and WWII in comparision. VC plays in a fictional timeline of a fictional Europe. You see. EUROPE. The role of the Darcsens is very clear.

I'll reply to the rest, as I am now preparing for Octoberfest. BetoJR, don't spill your drink on your keyboard again. Cheers
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Old 2009-09-22, 06:18   Link #84
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Me? Oh, I would never... erm... what were we talking about, again?
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Me? Oh, I would never... erm... what were we talking about, again?
You mean Buns?
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Old 2009-09-22, 08:00   Link #86
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Sorry but you failed the game and the anime. Isara has been adopted by Welkins father. She is Darcsen heritage (maybe a war orphan, can't remember that exactly. She has dark (black) hair and she wears a scarf like the Darcsens wear in tradition

Even though she is adopted by "normal" her heritage cannot be denied nor does she need to deny because she is accepted as she is by her stepfather and brother.
Even if she was adopted, It was more than 12 years before the game. I remember than Alicia is surprised in the game that Isara is'nt the real sister of Welkin, so most of the villager think she is really the daughter of the general.

They must to know her, but Alicia didn't even know who she is when she met her in her house.

Isara live at bhrul until she was kid, It's impossible that Alicia didn't know her.

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As I take WWI and WWII in comparision. VC plays in a fictional timeline of a fictional Europe. You see. EUROPE. The role of the Darcsens is very clear.
So, just take the WWII, you need History lesson, the WWI have nothing to do with the Jewish.

And I know what is Europe, I am french!!
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Even if she was adopted, It was more than 12 years before the game. I remember than Alicia is surprised in the game that Isara is'nt the real sister of Welkin, so most of the villager think she is really the daughter of the general.

They must to know her, but Alicia didn't even know who she is when she met her in her house.

Isara live at bhrul until she was kid, It's impossible that Alicia didn't know her.
While in the game, the townspeople knew who Isara was, but they knew her as the adopted daughter of the famous war hero and a Darc. This is partially because the relationship between Welkin's father and the Darc. professor (who was Isara's father) was well known and publicized information.

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So, just take the WWII, you need History lesson, the WWI have nothing to do with the Jewish.
Actually, it did, to some degree. WWI is mainly used by National Socialist propagandists to reinforce the notion of the lack of Jewish patriotism/participation for the Groe Deutschen Vaterland during WWI. Moreover, Jews were blamed for intentionally backstabbing the German Empire.

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Actually, it did, to some degree. WWI is mainly used by National Socialist propagandists to reinforce the notion of the lack of Jewish patriotism/participation for the Groe Deutschen Vaterland during WWI. Moreover, Jews were blamed for intentionally backstabbing the German Empire.
I think he meant Jews importance is much greater field than Germany-local. As you know WWI was caused mostly by colonization differences and influence spheres mismatches.

Jews involvement was not very important in that context. Differently from WWII where hatred for Jews and obsessive antisemitism took the idealogical ground.
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While in the game, the townspeople knew who Isara was, but they knew her as the adopted daughter of the famous war hero and a Darc. This is partially because the relationship between Welkin's father and the Darc. professor (who was Isara's father) was well known and publicized information.


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More of that, in the anime, even Alicia don't know Isara. But Alicia work at the Bakery, and in a small village like Brhul, the Bakery is the core of the village.

If someone know everybody in the village, it's the Baker
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If someone know everybody in the village, it's the Baker
What lf lsara doesn't like bread.....
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So, just take the WWII, you need History lesson, the WWI have nothing to do with the Jewish.

And I know what is Europe, I am french!!
Sorry french boy, but do you really think you are in a position to lecture a german about taking history lesson? I am very well aware of my nations history although I am an asian living about 25 years in Germany and also served military duty in germany through transcription. You are not in no position to do so. in WWI about 120 k jews served in military duty and about 12 k have died. The jews are very bond to the German social system. they mostly had the professionality in goldsmithing, bankiers and so on. Before the death Otto von Hindenburg, the Reichspraesident of the Weimar Republic the NSD where kept on bay and they antisemithism view. When von Hindneburg died Adolf Hitler who was the Reichskanzler took the role of the dictator because he did not elected a new Reichspraesident but procclaiming himself the Fuehrer of the German Nation. With this time era, the genocide started. And lateron WWII.

Going back to the Darcsens heritage even if they know Isara was a Darcsen, she was mostly dealt as a Darcsen outside of Bruhl. And even the own townspeople see her as a lowlife person. See episode two or three.
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What lf lsara doesn't like bread.....
In a small village in Europa in 1930 everybody eat bread. because it's one of the main meal.

It's nutritif, easy to make and cheap, it's also in our culture.

Even now, in France, there is no table where you can't find Bread during the Lunch.

Don't forget that the main place of Bhrul is its Mill, so the Bakery is the second main place of the village.


Father Hentai, there is also som jews in the french army in the WWI because, it's one of the religion of the country, and also in france, it was the jew who had the money.



But, it's not the reason of the WWI.

The event of what you're talking take place after the war when the germany was very poor.
The jewish was more rich in the people dues to their position, so, there was many people who was Jealous. Hitler use this when he came to the power, but it was many years after the WWI.

During the WWI there no hate for the jews.


And for Isara, even if they don't like her, they must to know her, but they don't even know her.

And do you think the people of Bhrul really could treat the daughter of the most notable man of the town like they do in the second episode? the daughter a hero of the war?

For the episode Two , It's about that I am complaining, the reaction of the people of Brhul is really improbable for someone who live in the village until 15 years and is the daughter of the local hero.

For the episode 3, it's different, there is no problem about the event. Rosie and the darcsen hater don't know her.

the episode 3 is ok, I think, too much funny moment, but it wasn't incoherent.

The episode 3, Fouzen, episode 9 and 10, Malberry show and the recapture of brhul was the only good episode of the anime for me
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But, it's not the reason of the WWI.
No it wasn't, nor was it the cause for WWII. Just as Darcs were not the cause of the 1st or 2nd Europa war. However, they are related because both races played a role in influencing the policies and ideologies of many countries.

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The jewish was more rich in the people dues to their position, so, there was many people who was Jealous. Hitler use this when he came to the power, but it was many years after the WWI.
More than being rich, it was being different that made Jews, alongside Gypsies, homosexuals, etc. etc. such easy targets.

Although Hitler had no problems making an alliance with the Chinese, and later the Japanese, or receiving guests from East Asia for state-visits. Hell, a former Defense Minister of the Chinese Nationalist party was trained in Germany and even participated in the invasion of Poland. But thats another story...

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During the WWI there no hate for the jews.
You sure about that?

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And for Isara, even if they don't like her, they must to know her, but they don't even know her.
The anime was being stupid. This notion alone should act as a reply to the rest of your post.

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More than being rich, it was being different that made Jews, alongside Gypsies, homosexuals, etc. etc. such easy targets.
A jew isn't really different when you see him in the street, The main reason of the hate of the jew is the propagande made by Hitler who hated jews (even if his mother was Jew) to a people really poor who wanted revenge.




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You sure about that?
there was, but, It was a minority.

There was no more than in any christian country about people who did'nt have the same religion.

I know by a German friend there was also some hate about catholic people who like "the whore of Babylon".

The same friend was surprised about the school program about the WW in France. He said me it was really more complete in France.
He said me that the German avoid to talk of the WWII at school.
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A jew isn't really different when you see him in the street, The main reason of the hate of the jew is the propagande made by Hitler who hated jews (even if his mother was Jew) to a people really poor who wanted revenge.
We may be going off topic, so I will make this brief.

Assuming the Jews were rich and Germans were poor is a fallacy. There were many reasons why the Jews were part of the National Socialist racial agenda, being allegedly better off is but one of the many reasons and certainly not the primary reason.

As for your friend's view on education. In former East Germany, there was certainly a hush-hush attitude in regards to the topic of World War II being part of the mandatory education. In West Germany, there exist a more conservative handling of the same subject-matter. However, that is not to say information is being omitted. Moreover, no restriction exists for those who wish to explore deeper into the subject.

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Apparently there's a huge amount of votes that are being directed to being painful right now. I guess most people have lost faith in the anime I guess.

As for me, I'd give this episode a 6/10. Can't wait for the last episode (or there might be more).
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Apparently there's a huge amount of votes that are being directed to being painful right now. I guess most people have lost faith in the anime I guess.

As for me, I'd give this episode a 6/10. Can't wait for the last episode (or there might be more).
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaats!!! My comp says you voted for painful.


Then you got this Dude who is still voting o_O

I've finally decided, I'm giving this episode the full Fabio stars!


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I've finally decided, I'm giving this episode the full Fabio stars!

I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Well he did snipe people one handed while driving a manual jeep, so for heroic action hero points he gets full marks!

Of course, the fact that Fabio isn't meant to be a heroic action hero, rather a zealous patriot, is besides the point...
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