2009-09-28, 11:17 | Link #2142 |
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I have no idea what I am... But I just like to say "Progressive Christian", because if I am a Christian I am not a close-minded one and do not believe in using the Bible to make personal prejudices look good. (I believe it happens, but I do not believe in doing it myself.)
But sometimes I'm Agnostic, too. I don't really know what to believe. But most of the time I at least keep a belief in God. There was a few years that I was an atheist...
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As I said, I put humans in the "animals" slot too, but imo there are some difference. Which lead me to: Quote:
I may have missed it, but I never heard, for example, stories about "pedophile meercat". Their reproduction is regulated and it seems that there is an instinctives rules to, for example, not try to procreate with a newborn meercat. So why such thing happens in humans societies, and not, for example, among the meerkats? So to reply to your question, maybe the humans world would be less dangerous if all and every humans were respecting instinctively some rules without even thinking about objecting (like not trying to rape a 2yo baby). I don't really know. I also wonder if we would be more united if there was a species more powerful than us, and scare us. (It happens that i wonder how humanity will feel if aliens arrive, and show how much they are powerful in comparison to us ). That's why I made that assumption about god in my previous post. Maybe it helped humans to think there is a being more powerful than them (whether god exists or not for real). I did see different kind of love behaviors in the documentaries about animals that I watched (for example, Macaw VS Meerkat VS Cheetah), so why not? Last edited by Narona; 2009-09-28 at 11:57. |
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2009-09-28, 11:55 | Link #2144 | |
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I'm still in the midst of thinking about it...maybe I'll try reading something later or something.
But I guess, right now, we can go with that, "Animals" equaling Humans that is. Kinda hard for me to accept though. Quote:
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2009-09-28, 12:02 | Link #2145 | ||
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While they seem to respect some rules (like no pedophile individual. at leats among the animals i saw in documentaries. Maybe it exists in some species after all), as I said to Chainlegacy, Love/affection feelings among Macaw was quite different than among Cheetahs in the documentaries I watched) Quote:
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2009-09-28, 12:49 | Link #2147 | |
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But as I said earlier on this topic, I find that more probable that human being was created by Alien than by god (since I don't believe in God to begin with). For me, it's a possibility even if most people think that's just crazy In that scenario, God is just a way to describe a powerful being who are not human : An alien. By the way, some people always wondered that if alien exist why don't they show up ? For me it's because, if they show up, it will be a social disaster. I mean, for example, how people who believe in God will react if they learn than God is just an Alien ? It will be disastrous. Something that I find interesting are scientist who believe in God. I always wondered how they can be scientist and believe in God ?
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2009-09-28, 12:59 | Link #2148 | ||
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2009-09-28, 13:21 | Link #2149 | |
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Certainly, love differs from species to species, but there is an evolutionary link that has been handed down that has caused that love to branch into the many different forms we see in the animals of today. So, while different in execution, the base for that love is the same in humans and other animals. |
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2009-09-28, 13:31 | Link #2150 | ||
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2009-09-28, 14:43 | Link #2152 |
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Limbo was a concept brought about in medival times I dont think a lot of people believe it today and original sin was wiped away by Christ as I have said before.
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2009-09-28, 15:08 | Link #2153 |
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So many different views... An interesting read through the thread, to be sure.
Religion is a touchy subject, and therefore I steer clear of it, mostly. I refuse to be lumped into any category or "group" in anyway. I don't believe in any religion, but I have respect for faith. To me, faith is more wonderful than a lebel of a religion. ^.^ In that regard you can faith in anything, regardless of if it's truly a deity or not. Whatever makes you feel whole as a person, or gives you strength in times of need. Many would call me an athiest simply based on solid fact. But there's more to me then a word can really describe. Besides, I don't agree with most of what athiests say anyway. *shrug* Categorize me if you like, it won't effect me... That's what I always say. I like to stick with the "I don't really know" thought. I don't know if there is a God, or heaven or hell... I don't know anything beyond what science has shown me... So I will accpet the unknown, and live my life as a decent person. And, if I'm lucky, I will have all the ultimate knowledge when I die. I also think that we, as humans, wouldn't be able to handle the true knowledge of "what's out there" in our current state. There could be solid proof of one thing or another, and one group of people would still shout out against it. That's they way humans are now. *shrug* If God were to show himself, I know myself and many, many others who would question him, and want answers from him before believing even then. Buuut... that's just my opinion. ^.^ I respect everyone's views, though too. |
2009-09-28, 15:31 | Link #2154 | ||
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As an apocryphal alternative to outright Hell. So, yeah.
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And even if babies are spared, it's hardly the only thing that makes me think unbelievers are really unpopular with Christians - as a matter of doctrine, not actual feelings from the actual Christians. |
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2009-09-28, 17:18 | Link #2156 | |
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Recents posts moved to a new thread, Varieties of Theism: Monotheism, Polytheism, Deism, Pantheism, and More
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2009-09-29, 03:57 | Link #2157 | ||
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But if your a religious scientist, I'm pretty sure you could scientifically and religiously tie in things well. In fact, my religion believes, if science and religion were truly the correct ones, they would complement each other. Speaking of science, True "science" is actually debatable. The science with no laws (passing speeds of light), as oppose to the science with the universal "laws" we have, is the science that extends above "science". Our "science" is....a system. We're following that system. But *that* system may not be the only system. So what I'm saying is, science and its laws can alternately change within different *dimensions*. Quote:
Interesting theory. So, what's *your* religion? Last edited by Cipher; 2009-09-29 at 04:09. |
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2009-09-29, 10:06 | Link #2158 | |
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I am very annoyed by the fact that people cannot distinguish the differences between science, which is a system of logic and experimentation to understand how the world works, and nature, which is how the world works. |
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2009-09-29, 10:14 | Link #2159 | ||
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Ok, seems out of topic, but, in a twisted sense, I'm seeing "Science" as a form of religion...somehow. |
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2009-09-29, 10:18 | Link #2160 | ||
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"Science" as a religion only occurs when a person is under the impression that our knowledge is absolutely correct, rather than understanding that our current knowledge of natural laws is an approximation that fits the data we've gathered. Newton's laws fit his knowledge at the time, but Einstein's fit even better because he had more data available. There are also strange dogma that scientists have had that were proven wrong, such as brain neurons not being able to grow in adulthood. |
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