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Old 2009-10-05, 12:17   Link #241
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pretty interesting premise. I don't expect anything great from this series though. Decent and if a bit more than that, then I'll take that as bonus. The characters are ok, fairly typical. What I don't like most is Cecily's design. A Knight dressed like a maid? Come on!
Well, this is Generic JRPG-ish anime, as such it's maid armor or thong armor, take your pick

IMHO, the best knight design I've seen recently was that girl from Regios, the one with curly blond hair.
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Old 2009-10-05, 12:29   Link #242
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Cecily is there as a fanservice character and that’s fact, I mean it’s a female knight wearing boob-plates along with a miniskirt. Hell it’s freaking obvious the main girls are meant to be a male-bait eyecandies. At least so far it’s building a plot.

And like they say, in shonen fantasy j-rpgs women wears revealing clothes….Yeah one of the few rare exceptions is Regios…
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Old 2009-10-05, 12:38   Link #243
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Screen shots + Story of next episode....
http://www.blasmi.com/story/02/index.html
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Old 2009-10-05, 12:45   Link #244
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AnimeNewsNetwork has (sofar) 12 episodes on their list. And since I don't see how this lighthearted anime will have more than 13 episodes, seeing cecily training in swordcombat is a poinless waste of time for us. Time would be better spend on the story or the cast.
Well, her getting better seems to be part of the story, and she is part of the cast. Honestly, I thought this should've been obvious or at least expected by now.

Personally, the only thing worth criticizing about Cecily at this point is her armour. Seriously, for something like that to be made of metal is a waste. It might not be as heavy, but it's obvious the anime is blatantly going for something maid-like in appearance.

Cecily announcing her name and heritage is reminiscent of samurai of yore, when at the battlefield they would announce their descent and the accomplishments of their clan. When she pulls out her broken sword it's a symbolic gesture more than anything, showing her dedication to what she believes in, for herself and in front of Luke who refused to forge her a new sword. The problem here is that the 'name-announcing' could get pretty old after a while, and the anime doesn't really need to remind its audience of this fact every now and then.

I think at this point it's utterly silly to criticize Cecily for being such a noob at her profession, because well, that's the point. Characters who start from zero are everywhere, and they exist in order to portray a story of growth. If her character doesn't grow and develop from this, then that's worth criticizing.
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Old 2009-10-05, 12:49   Link #245
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Personally, the only thing worth criticizing about Cecily at this point is her armour. Seriously, for something like that to be made of metal is sort of a waste. It might not be as heavy, but it's obvious the anime is going for something maid-like in appearance.
It's a surprisingly common trope for only one purpose:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BreastPlate
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Old 2009-10-05, 12:49   Link #246
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Why complain if Cecily is an eyecandy knight? It IS an anime.
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Old 2009-10-05, 12:51   Link #247
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Let's be fair.

Luke, I think, is just as much eyecandy to the female veiwers.
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Old 2009-10-05, 13:05   Link #248
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Luke, I think, is just as much eyecandy to the female veiwers.
Exactly. Both are pretty much on the same level when it comes to fanservice for their target audience.
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Old 2009-10-05, 13:25   Link #249
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No one’s actually complaining about Cecily’s character, she’s interesting as it is. If I could sum it up the only major complaints about her so far are her out of place maid-knight outfit (obviously) and her frequent family title declarations. I can live with the outfit because it was meant to be fanservice and pleases one's male eyes so no objection here. But if you start announcing your dad’s name more than 4 times in a single episode....

If you ignore her outfit and title declarations she’s could be a favorite for some.

And Luke against a cute maid-knight, hot spirit-sword girl and moe elf-mascot in a fanservice bout? Sorry even if Luke’s a badass but his bishieness loses this one, hardcore.
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Old 2009-10-05, 13:28   Link #250
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And Luke against a cute maid-knight, hot spirit-sword girl and moe elf-mascot in a fanservice bout? Sorry even if Luke’s a badass but his bishieness loses this one, hardcore.
Well there has to be something for the girls. I wouldn't be surpised if the bad guy turned out to be a Draco in Leather Pants.
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Old 2009-10-05, 13:32   Link #251
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....but I like Luke's bishie-ness ( actually it's one of the more selfish reasons why I watched this)
Though in some shots he looks totally girly. Not that I'm complaining lol.

Wasn't the bad guy in the OP?
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Old 2009-10-05, 13:37   Link #252
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Wasn't the bad guy in the OP?
I wouldn't know. I usually skip them unless they're masterpieces. Even then I usually skip them or else don't pay much attention.
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Old 2009-10-05, 14:06   Link #253
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No one’s actually complaining about Cecily’s character, she’s interesting as it is.
Nope. Go back a few pages.

She's been quite the centre of attention lately... which only makes sense considering she carries the role of co-protagonist on her shoulders.
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Old 2009-10-05, 14:26   Link #254
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I see Cecily's frequent naming of herself to be an indication of her lack of confidence. She's over-compensating; partly to convince others of her worthiness to be a knight, partly to convince herself of her worthiness to be a knight. I hope that as her abilities and confidence grow, her need to declare her name will diminish. (Notice that I'm assuming her abilites will grow. Otherwise, the story will quickly become tiresome in my opinion.)
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Old 2009-10-05, 14:33   Link #255
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I see Cecily's frequent naming of herself to be an indication of her lack of confidence. She's over-compensating; partly to convince others of her worthiness to be a knight, partly to convince herself of her worthiness to be a knight. I hope that as her abilities and confidence grow, her need to declare her name will diminish. (Notice that I'm assuming her abilites will grow. Otherwise, the story will quickly become tiresome in my opinion.)
Her development should be one of the main factors as the story progresses. If not like you said, then the show will seem quite tiresome if she ends up being the same old Cecily without any change from this first episode. I'm almost tempted to start reading the manga now because of that, just to find out.
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Old 2009-10-05, 14:35   Link #256
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Her development should be one of the main factors as the story progresses. If not like you said, then the show will seem quite tiresome if she ends up being the same old Cecily without any change from this first episode. I'm almost tempted to start reading the manga now because of that, just to find out.
*laughs* Impatient, much?

Any show can hang on character development. This one clearly needs that to happen, or Cecily will quickly grind many would-be fans out.
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Old 2009-10-05, 14:38   Link #257
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*laughs* Impatient, much?
No, not at all. It's called discussing the future of the series.
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Old 2009-10-05, 15:01   Link #258
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I don't think there will be much character development since this anime has, sofar, only 12 episodes.
I think the writers will aim more for the action seq, much easier than character development. And later some (small) drama about luke's "dark" past.
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Old 2009-10-05, 15:29   Link #259
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pretty magic sword forging circle.
that alone, with the music convinced to follow the series.

and Lisa.
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Old 2009-10-05, 15:49   Link #260
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Luke's character design reminds me of Renton from Eureka 7. But looking at the respective ANN encyclopedia entries, I didn't see any connection between the two character design production staffs. Still, in terms of looks, Luke and Renton could be cousins. But not in terms of personalities.
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