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Old 2009-10-05, 16:46   Link #261
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*laughs* Impatient, much?

Any show can hang on character development. This one clearly needs that to happen, or Cecily will quickly grind many would-be fans out.
I wouldnt call it being impatient. Anyone with half a sense can come up with a character its how the character is presented which decides if they are successful or not. If the writers do a poor job in Cecily character development then of course eye candy alone wont satisfy most viewers. Discussing such facts is only naturally and encouraged. Honestly my biggest fear is how fast will they develop her obvious immaturity and her swordsmanship. Too slow and it will drag the hell on, but too fast and it wont seem realistic.


btw did anyone else get a "Princess Bride" vibe when Cecily kept introducing herself? Everytime she did i couldnt help to think "my name is inigo montoya you killed my father prepare to die"
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Old 2009-10-05, 16:49   Link #262
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btw did anyone else get a "Princess Bride" vibe when Cecily kept introducing herself? Everytime she did i couldnt help to think "my name is inigo montoya you killed my father prepare to die"
I didn't think of it at the time. But now that you mention it...
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Old 2009-10-05, 17:08   Link #263
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Great animation [and production values, BTW] and a funny mood catched me. Yes, it's THE generic fantasy drama anime with tidbits of moe, but who cares?

Also, Luke - what a tsundere!

Expect better reviews next time, XD.
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Old 2009-10-05, 17:25   Link #264
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Just saw it.

I'm the only one who chuckled when Luke told Cecily to buy him some time only for the monster to do nothing while Cecily looked on in wonder? It must have been a RPG monster and it wasn't its turn.

Other than that, solid first episode, nice animation. I expect Cecily to get better and I'm looking forward to the proper introduction of Aria.
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Old 2009-10-05, 17:26   Link #265
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btw did anyone else get a "Princess Bride" vibe when Cecily kept introducing herself? Everytime she did i couldnt help to think "my name is inigo montoya you killed my father prepare to die"
Princess Bride had a good background on why he kept saying his name. This anime didn't have any. Probably by the end, if she still say it, it will be like Princess bride.
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Old 2009-10-05, 18:05   Link #266
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I'm the only one who chuckled when Luke told Cecily to buy him some time only for the monster to do nothing while Cecily looked on in wonder? It must have been a RPG monster and it wasn't its turn.
I was sort of chuckling. Actually, I hoped Luke would criticize her for not keeping the monster being while he spellcast. But since the episode ended before he delivered any post-spell lines, maybe he'll get the chance to be scathing at the beginning of the next episode.
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Old 2009-10-05, 18:15   Link #267
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Well, her getting better seems to be part of the story, and she is part of the cast. Honestly, I thought this should've been obvious or at least expected by now.

Personally, the only thing worth criticizing about Cecily at this point is her armour. Seriously, for something like that to be made of metal is a waste. It might not be as heavy, but it's obvious the anime is blatantly going for something maid-like in appearance.

Cecily announcing her name and heritage is reminiscent of samurai of yore, when at the battlefield they would announce their descent and the accomplishments of their clan. When she pulls out her broken sword it's a symbolic gesture more than anything, showing her dedication to what she believes in, for herself and in front of Luke who refused to forge her a new sword. The problem here is that the 'name-announcing' could get pretty old after a while, and the anime doesn't really need to remind its audience of this fact every now and then.

I think at this point it's utterly silly to criticize Cecily for being such a noob at her profession, because well, that's the point. Characters who start from zero are everywhere, and they exist in order to portray a story of growth. If her character doesn't grow and develop from this, then that's worth criticizing.
Mmm can't speak for others, but I was more commenting on her personality in general not really anything relating to her being a "noob" as it were.

But thats just entirely personal bias talking...I wouldn't say she's a "bad" character just not the type I can derive much enjoyment from watching in general. For now I'm hedging my bets that the loli with the nifty eyes and the girl dressed in green can balance the show out for me in the end.
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Old 2009-10-05, 18:51   Link #268
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Just saw it.

I'm the only one who chuckled when Luke told Cecily to buy him some time only for the monster to do nothing while Cecily looked on in wonder? It must have been a RPG monster and it wasn't its turn.

Other than that, solid first episode, nice animation. I expect Cecily to get better and I'm looking forward to the proper introduction of Aria.
Good thing it wasn't the monsters turn. Or else she would have been hit in the side of the head while not paying attention to it. I guess the monster was pretty curious as well so everyone just stopped to watch .

It will be nice when Cecily gets more skilled. A good person just needs to pick up the ability. At least she will get plenty of combat experience in order to push her development .
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Old 2009-10-05, 20:24   Link #269
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Sorry for the noob question, but what the hell is "bishiness"? I'm assuming it has something to do with bishoujo? And i have nooo idea what that means lol. i could google it...but it'd be better if someone here explained it .

Anyway, the monsters in here are s00 ugly. And I'm not sure if anyone else picked up on this, but when Luke said that the name of the store was NOT Lisa, but rather Liza, Lisa did this little "sad face" thing...perhaps suggesting Liza is her older sister/mother? Perhaps the forging "partner" of Luke's father? Maybe?
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Old 2009-10-05, 20:36   Link #270
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could google it...but it'd be better if someone here explained it .
Why work when you can make others work for you. The argument goes something like "Luke is a bishounen", or bishie in Western slang, a pretty boy to draw in female viewers and provide fan-service for the female audience. This is common in girl's manga/anime. Bishoujo is the female equivalent. Blacksmith seems to aim for both, though there are of course more pretty girls since it looks like some kind of harem show.

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Anyway, the monsters in here are s00 ugly.
Just another byproduct of the mediocricity and generic-ness of this show. IMHO it's like they are not even trying with the monster designs. I cried/facepalmed when I saw that monster. But then they totally topped that with the ultra-lame forging sequence.
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Old 2009-10-05, 21:00   Link #271
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Why work when you can make others work for you. The argument goes something like "Luke is a bishounen", or bishie in Western slang, a pretty boy to draw in female viewers and provide fan-service for the female audience. This is common in girl's manga/anime. Bishoujo is the female equivalent. Blacksmith seems to aim for both, though there are of course more pretty girls since it looks like some kind of harem show.


Just another byproduct of the mediocricity and generic-ness of this show. IMHO it's like they are not even trying with the monster designs. I cried/facepalmed when I saw that monster. But then they totally topped that with the ultra-lame forging sequence.
yeah tell me about it, the only reason i played that sequence over and over was just because the BGM sounded so familiar and i wanted to remember what it was from...hoping that if i listened to it enough times i would finally remember...so far no luck lawl.

And thanks for the explanation. And you're exactly right, why work when i have plenty of online friends(slaves)..just kidding.
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Old 2009-10-05, 21:01   Link #272
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Anyway, the monsters in here are s00 ugly.
You want pretty monsters?
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Old 2009-10-05, 21:09   Link #273
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Just saw it.

I'm the only one who chuckled when Luke told Cecily to buy him some time only for the monster to do nothing while Cecily looked on in wonder? It must have been a RPG monster and it wasn't its turn.

Other than that, solid first episode, nice animation. I expect Cecily to get better and I'm looking forward to the proper introduction of Aria.
If by chuckled you mean facepalm'd then no you weren't the only one. Despite that fact however it didn't take away from the very end of the episode being the highlight for me.
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Old 2009-10-05, 21:09   Link #274
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Compared to that crazed oldman berserker fellow, the monsters are as pretty as carebears.
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Old 2009-10-05, 21:09   Link #275
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You want pretty monsters?
hahaa there's just such a stark contrast between character design (cute, moe) and the monsters (lack of originality, *cough* ugly as hell, and just...plain boring). Since it is the first episode, I'll just have to wait and see ;P.


And Yes, i was hoping for monsters wearing tutus and pink ribbons
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Old 2009-10-05, 21:26   Link #276
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Mmm can't speak for others, but I was more commenting on her personality in general not really anything relating to her being a "noob" as it were.

But thats just entirely personal bias talking...I wouldn't say she's a "bad" character just not the type I can derive much enjoyment from watching in general. For now I'm hedging my bets that the loli with the nifty eyes and the girl dressed in green can balance the show out for me in the end.
I agree with this completely. Her attitude does nothing for me. Actually her character type is one of my greatest annoyances in anime. If 90% of the character focus ends up being on her, I may not make it through the 12 episodes.
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Old 2009-10-05, 21:30   Link #277
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I'm optimistically thinking of her personality as having lots of room to grow. I'm not really expecting too much though, given the length of the series.
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Old 2009-10-05, 21:49   Link #278
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So it's set in stone that this series is 12 episodes? Oh boy...she has got some work to doo
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Old 2009-10-05, 22:04   Link #279
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I'm the only one who chuckled when Luke told Cecily to buy him some time only for the monster to do nothing while Cecily looked on in wonder? It must have been a RPG monster and it wasn't its turn.
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If by chuckled you mean facepalm'd then no you weren't the only one. Despite that fact however it didn't take away from the very end of the episode being the highlight for me.
I lol'd too at that part and thought it's a turn based RPG event with poor direction.

But after a while I realized it has something to do with what Cecily was wearing. It'stoo distracting even for the eye of an ice-demon, which I assume is male judging from how it derived (from the eye patched guy). If you thought of it that way the buying time part is not that surprising.





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Old 2009-10-05, 22:07   Link #280
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Luke reminds me of Akizuki...
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