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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 15 Rating
Perfect 10 32 21.48%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 45 30.20%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 43 28.86%
7 out of 10 : Good 18 12.08%
6 out of 10 : Average 6 4.03%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.67%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.67%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.01%
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Old 2009-10-07, 12:51   Link #21
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Ah, my apologies.
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Old 2009-10-07, 12:52   Link #22
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No flashback as expected so eva found the gold because she is a mastermind NICE DEEN.

I really need to know if they used happines of the marrionete =(
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Old 2009-10-07, 12:53   Link #23
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Am I the only one who think that the coronation scene seems a little... empty (If I remember corectly, the room were crowded in the VN, it more looks like a little party here...)?
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Old 2009-10-07, 12:55   Link #24
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Am I the only one who think that the coronation scene seems a little... empty
Same here and i think there were docens of goats but well is our imagination.
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Am I the only one who think that the coronation scene seems a little... empty (If I remember corectly, the room were crowded in the VN, it more looks like a little party here...)?
DEEN tends to make huge rooms with not much space taken.
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Old 2009-10-07, 13:21   Link #26
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Eh... there was.. NO HAPPINESS OF MARIONETTE!

u2_nighteyes plays during the whole torture sequence and there's some track I've never heard before during the coronation scene.


DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN.
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Old 2009-10-07, 13:33   Link #27
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Eh... there was.. NO HAPPINESS OF MARIONETTE!

u2_nighteyes plays during the whole torture sequence and there's some track I've never heard before during the coronation scene.


DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN.
I'm really not sure why they do this. I mean, sure, "the differences between various forms of media", etc. but... I can't see why they change or remove half of the tracks like this.

What is with this studio?
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Old 2009-10-07, 13:37   Link #28
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They used an original song during the ceremony. Seems they couldn't use happiness of marionette. Oh well. I like the song but I don't think IT'S THE BEST THING EVER like some people.
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Old 2009-10-07, 13:38   Link #29
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Because Kyoto Animation has spoiled people on what a studio can do with adaptations.

Studio DEEN is probably taking what would have been considered the normal way of doing things...if there was no KyoAni making them look bad.
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DEEN has budget issues. Being able to use every game track would cost a lot of money. They can't use all that music for free.
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Seems they couldn't use happiness of marionette.
But why couldn't they? What was preventing them from doing this? Did Beatrice herself burst into Studio DEEN and demand to bury them in cakes if they didn't use a different track?

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Because Kyoto Animation has spoiled people on what a studio can do with adaptations.

Studio DEEN is probably taking what would have been considered the normal way of doing things...if there was no KyoAni making them look bad.
No, KyoAni has raised the bar for adaptations. That's not quite the same thing.

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DEEN has budget issues. Being able to use every game track would cost a lot of money. They can't use all that music for free.
Wait, is that really how it works? Track by track? That seems kind of... odd.
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Old 2009-10-07, 13:45   Link #32
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And so they used the budget to make a brand new track instead.

???
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Old 2009-10-07, 13:49   Link #33
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NO HAPPINESS OF MARIONETTE???????????

GOD i don't even know why i still see the anime, an amazing fail deen i better go to read the prologue to episode 5 again that 10 minutes are better that all the anime together.
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Old 2009-10-07, 13:57   Link #34
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huuh?!
I don't understand your reaction
VN is VN, anime is anime .. no happiness of marionette and then ?!
you still have it on your pc, can hear it whenever you want !
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That scene without happines of the marionette is 10 times more common, in the sound novel i was almost crying in the anime it was like CONGRATULATION EVA BLA BLA BLA GOODBYE.

it lacks any kind of emotion.

Also they used A LOT of dai bgm and one of the best ones and one of the favourite of the fans they chose to take it out, i don`t understand deen AT ALL.
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Old 2009-10-07, 14:01   Link #36
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The original song is not bad. It has a nice eerie feel to it, but it's just no HoM ;_;

TBH; I think Nighteyes for the Torture scene wasn't a bad choice. In the VN, we experience the thoughts and feeling of Evatrice, and the icnredible joy and freedom she feels thanks to her newfound powers. Moon Rabbit's Dance is good for that purpose because it just intensifies that feeling. However, in the anime, since all thoughts and descriptions are cut, it seems more like a childish act of cruelty, so Nighteyes fits the scene better in that regard.

Evatrice's voice bugs me though. Didn't she have a completely different voice when she appeared in Episode 12? Now she sounds almost exactly like Adult Eva, only screechier.
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Old 2009-10-07, 14:02   Link #37
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huuh?!
I don't understand your reaction
VN is VN, anime is anime .. no happiness of marionette and then ?!
you still have it on your pc, can hear it whenever you want !
Although I don't exactly think all details should be kept, the whole "VN is VN and anime is anime" isn't pertinent at all: the anime is another medium by itself, but it is an adaptation above anything else.
By this definition, the objective of such is to provide the essence of the source material, with an actual adaptation into the anime format.

The problem isn't actually why they didn't use X or Y track. The problem is: why do they use some of them, but then just misplace others or totally ignore some. That's how I see the reactions
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Ugh... this episode was pretty nice for an adaption. But god... I now remember why EP3 made me so sick and why I began hating EvaBeatrice so much. @_@;

It's nothing against DEEN... but I don't think I'll be able to watch this episode again (subbed), so I may as well rate it now...
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I have noticed that on the last episode
young eva tend to be the same like eva !
even if it was 1000 better when it was her first appearance !
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The problem isn't actually why they didn't use X or Y track. The problem is: why do they use some of them, but then just misplace others or totally ignore some. That's how I see the reactions
EXACTLY that's how i feel.


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Evatrice's voice bugs me though. Didn't she have a completely different voice when she appeared in Episode 12? Now she sounds almost exactly like Adult Eva, only screechier.
Same here, i LOVE her voice in episode 12.
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