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Old 2009-10-14, 21:29   Link #261
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I'd agree as far as the actual powers are concerned: I'd want her to keep them. However, I also don't want her to end up still pinning her life's hopes on encountering strange outside forces. Especially if she retains her powers and learns of them, I'd hope she'd become a much more active agent in making the world extraordinary.

Also, with regards to what you said about her relinquishing her powers for Kyon being unsatisfactory, that would in turn rob Kyon of a major opportunity for his own growth, which would be to suck it up and say "I know a girl who is effectively a god, has caused me no end to trouble and is the last sort of person I'd wanted to admit existed...and I love her/care about her/whatever anyway."

So yeah. We're agreed on that.
Exactly.

I get what you meant now; it would be very odd for Haruhi, aware of her vast powers, to still be wanting to encounter strange outside forces.

She herself is a strange force, and if she knows this, she should come to become happy in her own skin.

That, to me, would be a good way for the franchise to end. With Haruhi finding what she always wanted to find... but finding it in her own person, instead of in the outside world.

And, at the same time perhaps, she finds that since she's extraordinary, a relationship with a "normal" guy named Kyon, is something that appeals to her as a way of keeping her grounded. The ultimate ying/yang juxtaposition ending.
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Old 2009-10-14, 21:33   Link #262
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Exactly.

I get what you meant now; it would be very odd for Haruhi, aware of her vast powers, to still be wanting to encounter strange outside forces.

She herself is a strange force, and if she knows this, she should come to become happy in her own skin.

That, to me, would be a good way for the franchise to end. With Haruhi finding what she always wanted to find... but finding it in her own person, instead of in the outside world.

And, at the same time perhaps, she finds that since she's extraordinary, a relationship with a "normal" guy named Kyon, is something that appeals to her as a way of keeping her grounded. The ultimate ying/yang juxtaposition ending.
And I think, additionally, she might come to appreciate a bit more that there are varying manifestations of the strange and wonderful that didn't fit into her simplistic paradigm. Case in point: Kyon is a 'normal' human in most senses, but he is also possessed of a personality that Haruhi's not likely to find in too many other places. There's a reason everyone wants Stupid Sexy Kyon.
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Old 2009-10-14, 21:45   Link #263
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I really wish for her to keep her powers.
If she looses them I will kill Tanigawa.
Oh, btw, how long does it take for a Translation to come out on Baka-Tsuki, (whenever the novel DOES come out)
I also wish that Haruhi realizes she's what she's been looking for and is a bit kind of..shaken(?) by it. 'Cuz, if you someone you know just walks up to you and says "You're God " your first instinct is to not believe them, but, maybe if it was Kyon, she's believe.
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Old 2009-10-14, 21:47   Link #264
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And I think, additionally, she might come to appreciate a bit more that there are varying manifestations of the strange and wonderful that didn't fit into her simplistic paradigm. Case in point: Kyon is a 'normal' human in most senses, but he is also possessed of a personality that Haruhi's not likely to find in too many other places. There's a reason everyone wants Stupid Sexy Kyon.
Kyon's personality is... unusual. That's certainly true. Why the girls go for him, I'm not quite sure. Perhaps he, ironically, comes across as a good listener; this would certainly be true if we assume that most/all of his narration is purely in his head, and not being mumbled out.

He is perhaps more attentive than your average guy. He is classy in his own way; like a lot of harem leads, he's not taking advantage of the girls that are interested in him. And, in Kyon's case, he has good reasons to be indecisive over the girls... there's a lot of risk, in all directions.
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Old 2009-10-14, 21:47   Link #265
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Haruhi: Best anime character that ever walked the earth.

I mean, she pretty much can do what she wants, or she will destroy the world, she's invincible.

Hell, she's a freaken god.

Plus, without her, the serise wouldn't be that interesting.

Would be like some, nothing happening sarcasm buff (Not that Kyons sarcasm is bad, I actually consider it to be another main highlight of the anime, it just wouldn't be the same without Haruhi around).


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Kyon's personality is... unusual. That's certainly true. Why the girls go for him, I'm not quite sure. Perhaps he, ironically, comes across as a good listener; this would certainly be true if we assume that most/all of his narration is purely in his head, and not being mumbled out.

He is perhaps more attentive than your average guy. He is classy in his own way; like a lot of harem leads, he's not taking advantage of the girls that are interested in him. And, in Kyon's case, he has good reasons to be indecisive over the girls... there's a lot of risk, in all directions.
Maybe it's because he always has a sarcastic comment about something, Kyon's pretty cool, when you think about it.
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Main one: If he chooses anyone other than Haruhi, the world ends
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Old 2009-10-14, 21:53   Link #267
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Main one: If he chooses anyone other than Haruhi, the world ends
Marrying Haruhi would be hilarious.

Cause Haruhi might replay the marriage 10000000 times.

So he would have to find someway to make it not as romantic and stuff.

I'd LOVE to see that.
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Haruhi: NO! I'm re-doing this! We have to have Mikuru and Yuki dancing the Hare Hare Yukai in the background or I WON'T GET MARRIED!!!
Kyon: yare, yare..
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Old 2009-10-14, 22:12   Link #269
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Haruhi: NO! I'm re-doing this! We have to have Mikuru and Yuki dancing the Hare Hare Yukai in the background or I WON'T GET MARRIED!!!
Kyon: yare, yare..
Lolz, I was meaning like in the endless 8 episodes.
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Koizumi: We've entered an endless recursion of time..
Kyon: AGAIN?! FOR HOW FUCKING LONG?
Koizumi: you tell him, Nagato.
Yuki: This would be 10238627362859753842368905096858297245868'th time you've gotten married.
Kyon: OH SHI-
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Koizumi: We've entered an endless recursion of time..
Kyon: AGAIN?! FOR HOW FUCKING LONG?
Koizumi: you tell him, Nagato.
Yuki: This would be 10238627362859753842368905096858297245868'th time you've gotten married.
Kyon: OH SHI-
Poor Kyon-kun.

Oh well, at least it will be a memorable marrage, LOL.
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Old 2009-10-14, 22:26   Link #272
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Oh well, at least it will be a memorable marrage, LOL.
For Yuki. Everyone else forgets it right afterward.
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I wonder what Kyon has to do this time to make the loops stop?
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For Yuki. Everyone else forgets it right afterward.
right, we wouldn't want that to happen to her again
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Forget the wedding, what if she replays the honeymoon?
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For Yuki. Everyone else forgets it right afterward.
He gets desa vu's

Poor Yuki actually when you think about it, she has to put up with the same thing over and over.
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Old 2009-10-14, 22:42   Link #277
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Ya know, I have to wonder at that whole "If Kyon chooses anyone other than Haruhi, the world ends" thing. Sure, presently I wouldn't place any bets to the contrary, but down the line...well. I guess you can say I have a lot of faith in Haruhi's growth. I think, when she finally gets to a point where she can be totally honest with herself, she'll learn a lot, and one of the things I expect/hope she'd learn is that her feelings for Kyon don't demand he be her possession, because let's face it, even at her sweetest moments, she's still presently thinking of him as her Kyon before she's thinking of him as just Kyon. I don't see that always being the case, though, because outgrowing that would fit neatly alongside outgrowing her other perceived needs for outside factors to revolve around her.

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Old 2009-10-14, 22:44   Link #278
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What i would reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally like to see is what kind of "penalties" Haruhi would come up with every time Kyon is late after finding out about her powers

no mercy for the fool
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Ya know, I have to wonder at that whole "If Kyon chooses anyone other than Haruhi, the world ends" thing. Sure, presently I wouldn't place any bets to the contrary, but down the line...well. I guess you can say I have a lot of faith in Haruhi's growth. I think, when she finally gets to a point where she can be totally honest with herself, she'll learn a lot, and one of the things I expect/hope she'd learn is that her feelings for Kyon don't demand he be her possession, because let's face it, even at her sweetest moments, she's still presently thinking of him as her Kyon before she's thinking of him as just Kyon. I don't see that always being the case, though, because outgrowing that would fit neatly alongside outgrowing her other perceived needs for outside factors to revolve around her.



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I can just imagen Koizumi walking in on them, to tell them pretty much the same thing, and Kyon being like "Get the f**k out of here."
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Koizumi:Well then, let's begin ;D *takes off clothes*
Kyon:GET.OUT.
Haruhi: NOO! KOIZUMI-KUN! LEAVE!
Koizumi: If that is what you wish. *leaves without clothes*
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