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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 17 Rating
Perfect 10 37 29.13%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 43 33.86%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 33 25.98%
7 out of 10 : Good 10 7.87%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 0.79%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.79%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.79%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 0.79%
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Old 2009-10-23, 00:33   Link #81
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I sorta liked this episode, but I'd give it an 8/10.
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Old 2009-10-23, 00:36   Link #82
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I don't get the fail?
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Old 2009-10-23, 00:37   Link #83
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Her foot is underneath the table.
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Old 2009-10-23, 00:40   Link #84
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Should it be above the table? Sorry, I sometimes just don't get things
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Old 2009-10-23, 00:41   Link #85
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Should it be above the table? Sorry, I sometimes just don't get things
I thought that too lol XD
It looks like I epic failed though lol, I didn't notice that there was a table there XD
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I'm so confused... Nevermind
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Old 2009-10-23, 01:32   Link #87
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*before this ep*
Wow deen suck for not mentioning Ange!

*after this ep*
wow deen suck for mentioning ange!

L O L

Also I love how every VN reader acts like they remembered the two sentences that mentioned Ange even though odds are the majority forgot period but hey lets all act like we did, we can fool everyone!

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Yeah, for some reason the anime decided to only mention her now She's Kyrie's six year old daughter and Battler's half-sister. She gets sick before Oct. 4th and stays behind while everyone goes off to the island
Don't act like the VN was much better in regards to Ange, she was mentioned briefly twice and most of the dialogue between the cousins was like she never existed in the first place. You know stuff like Jessica saying that all the cousins are reunited.... heck you think Maria would say something considering they are closer in age.. looks like a certain writer forgot something...
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Old 2009-10-23, 02:14   Link #88
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Wow, what an amazing episode I really loved that Beato has turned around you can really see she has a beautiful side now. To bad shannon was revived then died it really was a lovely moment. Cant wait to see Beato rescue Jessica ^_^ look forward to it.
It was sad regarding Shannon though I expected it. Didn't Virgilia say something like the fate of something restored by endless magic can't be avoided? Like how the vase got smashed again except by a different cause?

I do wonder how Beato plans on evening the odds. It's crazy to just go down there and revive Kanon if he's got to deal with the Siestas. Of course I think in close range he'd have the edge but not like Evatrice would play it to his advantage. If this is going to turn into a full magical brawl wonder if the stakes will stand beside their former master?

I can at least be remembered for the most over the top reaction to the mention of Ange . Who needs to check the website ? Still has to be a reason for her getting mentioned at this point. If we was mostly ignored after the start of the VN then there has to be some reason. Can't imagine she is unknown to the family. Something unusual that leaves her normally not mentioned? Almost makes me think the board will be shuffled to have her play a role next time but at the same time I can't see Beato dragging Battler's little sister into it. Would just feel counter to her current development.
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Old 2009-10-23, 02:28   Link #89
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It was sad regarding Shannon though I expected it. Didn't Virgilia say something like the fate of something restored by endless magic can't be avoided? Like how the vase got smashed again except by a different cause?
she was't talking about endless magic back than. she couldn't avoid the fate of the vase, because she did not possess endless magic. i think she never did. endless magic can avoid that fate. (but it still has some limitations from what i got?)
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Old 2009-10-23, 02:56   Link #90
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*before this ep*
Wow deen suck for not mentioning Ange!

*after this ep*
wow deen suck for mentioning ange!

L O L

Also I love how every VN reader acts like they remembered the two sentences that mentioned Ange even though odds are the majority forgot period but hey lets all act like we did, we can fool everyone!



Don't act like the VN was much better in regards to Ange, she was mentioned briefly twice and most of the dialogue between the cousins was like she never existed in the first place. You know stuff like Jessica saying that all the cousins are reunited.... heck you think Maria would say something considering they are closer in age.. looks like a certain writer forgot something...
No, many people speculated about Ange before EP3 came out. I think we even had a translation note that came along with one of our early patches about her name.

People speculating seriously about the game wondered about her often even as early as EP1, especially in the Japanese world. Most people didn't pay her much mind, but there were an awful lot who knew about her. There are other reasons too, but I won't go into them on this thread.
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Old 2009-10-23, 03:39   Link #91
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No, many people speculated about Ange before EP3 came out. I think we even had a translation note that came along with one of our early patches about her name.

People speculating seriously about the game wondered about her often even as early as EP1, especially in the Japanese world. Most people didn't pay her much mind, but there were an awful lot who knew about her. There are other reasons too, but I won't go into them on this thread.
That's just the VN players over-analysed every single detail in the game. Not just Ange, but many other characters are speculated as well, the other "-non" servant for example.
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Old 2009-10-23, 04:22   Link #92
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Pretty solid episode, finally Ange is introduced and we see Eva-B so happy to kill anyone (i like her voice more and more)
Funny to see Ronove and Lucifer cover Beato when she go to help George. For the face of Krauss and Natsuhi when they are strangled to death i don't think is so bad, sirely the quality is quality but you can't think that someone has a beautiful face when they're strangled lol
Like the previous episodes, for the story, i can say that this time Beato almost made me puked, sry but see the cruel Endless Witch crying, talking of love, appreciate other people and talking of friendship at the end was really disgusting
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Old 2009-10-23, 04:23   Link #93
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I loled when eva-beatrice killed shannon again, does that make me a bad person?
I laughed at that scene in the VN as well, simply because of Beato's "oh crap" expression.
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Old 2009-10-23, 05:43   Link #94
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I've got a crazy theory. Tell me I'm wrong.
Beatrice has blue eyes.
Vergilia has blue eyes.
Evatrice has blue eyes.
One spoiler character who also will become a name-Beatrice has blue eyes.
Witches have blue eyes.
Battler has blue eyes.
Will we see Battrice at some point? Slay the dragon--become the dragon?
Spoiler for first he would have to find the gold:
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Old 2009-10-23, 06:03   Link #95
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Ok .
Beatrice (golden) act like a good girl now and Battler give her some morals ...
And omg she was crying ....
Well , people die , people cry , people play hide and seek ...
What happens to the detective's part?

So confused and nonsense .

Ow , they introduced Angel , Battler's sister .
I guess , she's the girl in the OP .

Did Battler acknowledge the witchs ? It seems yes in this episode .
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Ok .
Beatrice (golden) act like a good girl now and Battler give her some morals ...
And omg she was crying ....
Well , people die , people cry , people play hide and seek ...
What happens to the detective's part?

So confused and nonsense .

Ow , they introduced Angel , Battler's sister .
I guess , she's the girl in the OP .

Did Battler acknowledge the witchs ? It seems yes in this episode .
Well, I guess I should congratulate you for being the first one to deduce who she is. But, uh, her name's Ange, not Angel.

He still hasn't accepted magic was involved in the murders.
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Old 2009-10-23, 06:49   Link #97
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I can't be the only fan who liked her better in BWA-HAHAHA! mode, can I?
You are not the only one. I liked her more evil, but Eva Beato is making up for her now, though I don't find Eva beato as good with Bwa-hahaha.

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Ok .
Beatrice (golden) act like a good girl now and Battler give her some morals ...
And omg she was crying ....
Did Battler acknowledge the witchs ? It seems yes in this episode .
Yeah, I guess the only way Beato could be acknowledge was by her reforming and trying to help the people in this scenario. Now, what good is that if that world is a creation of beato. will the people in the world where Meta Battler come from be alive and well? So we get a new evil witch and the old evil witch is now nice.

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Old 2009-10-23, 07:55   Link #98
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That's just the VN players over-analysed every single detail in the game. Not just Ange, but many other characters are speculated as well, the other "-non" servant for example.
Of course people over-analyze detail, Umineko is a friggin mystery where people pay attention to detail.
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Old 2009-10-23, 08:14   Link #99
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In the game all human characters have black eyes (or brown like Eva) and all the witches have blue eyes, while demons have red.
Maria has blue eyes in the VN.
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