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View Poll Results: Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 17 Rating
Perfect 10 37 29.13%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 43 33.86%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 33 25.98%
7 out of 10 : Good 10 7.87%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 0.79%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.79%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.79%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 0.79%
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Old 2009-10-26, 08:00   Link #201
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From EP3 TIPS:
07151129。
Small Ougonkyou is opened if it recites.

Mystery number is revealed in EP4, but besides it may also be significant.(+o+)
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Old 2009-10-26, 08:10   Link #202
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It could be a play on number pronunciations. I wouldn't know how to arrange them to make sense, though this kind of thing is pretty common in anime. Japanese fans probably have logical sentences for the numbers already xD

07151129

Rei na higo ii tsuku
Rei na higoi itsuku

Shiz like that?

It might also have something to do with some sort of math puzzle or Roman letters that correspond to the numbers.
In the japanese forums "ii niku" was often suggested as a way to read 1129. Which basically means "good meat".

Anyway this kind of reasoning never lead to anything.
The same apply for
geographic coordinates
dates
conversion to letters
conversion in hexadecimal or other systems
magic square or matrix
hours 07:15 - 11:29

Ryukishi in an interview said that this number is a very cruel riddle. He said the same about the epitaph, however in the case of the epitaph we have at least some infos.
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Old 2009-10-26, 11:12   Link #203
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it means that in 11 years he's turning 29~
that's true, lol (first time I heard that one,btw).

1129 is kanon's birthdate (devil's proof).
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Old 2009-10-26, 11:26   Link #204
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1129 is kanon's birthdate (devil's proof).
Jessica stated that this wasn't the case.
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Old 2009-10-26, 12:08   Link #205
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Not in red, I mean she does not even know his real name. Still, I prefer the theory that i points to battler, birthday + age.
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Old 2009-10-26, 12:18   Link #206
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I mean she does not even know his real name.
It isn't her fault that he didn't want to tell her and the time he wanted he died xDD

Well the number could mean anything the date was just something Battler come up with. But why wrtieng dates down on a door? For what do people use dates(birthdays and such) anyway?
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Old 2009-10-26, 12:27   Link #207
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For what do people use dates(birthdays and such) anyway?
In retrospect I think the answer to this question is blatantly obvious.

But the problem is... even if you know this is a date, what exactly do you gain from such a knowledge?
And that is the main reason I didn't really waste too much time speculating about this number.

The only way it can be remotely useful is if it's somehow related to the epitpah, in case this is a key or a code.
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Old 2009-10-26, 12:51   Link #208
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The only way it can be remotely useful is if it's somehow related to the epitpah, in case this is a key or a code.

Which would fit the sentence that the epitaph is a riddle made lin a "childish" way. But why would the key to epitaph appear after the epitaph was solved.

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In retrospect I think the answer to this question is blatantly obvious.
I know that I don't use dates for anything
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Old 2009-10-26, 16:07   Link #209
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I just typed 0715 in Google and on the second page, there was a Youtube video--Japanese--called 0715 in which some BDSM scenario was playing out, where a woman was licking someone else's feet. I thought it was gross and it most likely has no bearing on the riddle, but I was reminded to how Beato made people lick her feet, as well.
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Old 2009-10-26, 22:24   Link #210
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i tried searching November 29 year 715 and I got a webpage by NASA about a solar eclipse that took place that day. they have a map showing the path and if you follow the start point and go straight north-west you end up at the Izu islands around Niijima. Also, if you follow the end point north-east you end up hitting Northern Angola about around the village of Capulo, which is north of the city Luanda.
here is a link http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEsearc...?Ecl=-07151129
also if you look at the site address it says "07151129" at the end.

the above might not be important but it is very interesting

EDIT:

I think the eclipse might be pointing to the approximate location of When They Cry 5 and 6. its like the path of the solar eclipse is pointing from Rokkenjima to Central Africa.
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Old 2009-10-26, 23:10   Link #211
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That's a very funny thing you have found, but technically that's -715 not 715. It corresponds to 716 BC.

Also it's kinda a stretch to say it points to the izu island. The eclipse itself is far from that area, and since it's a curve is it really allright to continue in a straight line from the eastern tip?
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Old 2009-10-27, 14:35   Link #212
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I just typed 0715 in Google and on the second page, there was a Youtube video--Japanese--called 0715
The text is Chinese, not Japanese. A nitpick, I know =p
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Old 2009-10-27, 15:53   Link #213
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The text is Chinese, not Japanese. A nitpick, I know =p
ah, I see.
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Old 2009-10-27, 19:39   Link #214
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07151129

Didn't Kyrie mention that she had a stillborn child? Perhaps that day was November 29th of the same year of Battler's birth.

Maybe Kyrie wrote it?
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Old 2009-10-27, 19:41   Link #215
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07151129

Didn't Kyrie mention that she had a stillborn child? Perhaps that day was November 29th of the same year of Battler's birth.

Maybe Kyrie wrote it?
The anime didn't mention (for whatever reason) that Kyrie and Asumu were due to deliver on the same day.
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Old 2009-10-27, 19:43   Link #216
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07151129

Didn't Kyrie mention that she had a stillborn child? Perhaps that day was November 29th of the same year of Battler's birth.

Maybe Kyrie wrote it?

I also thought along the same lines.

But I guess since Ryukishi said that this is a nasty riddle, it mightn't be so simple..

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Old 2009-10-27, 19:56   Link #217
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The anime didn't mention (for whatever reason) that Kyrie and Asumu were due to deliver on the same day.
You're right.

"...As fate would have it, our delivery dates were on the same day." (VN EP3)

Maybe November 29th is the day that Asumu died, the day when she learned that she can possibly get together with Rudolf again. Note the emphasis on envy.

But then again, if it were true, that wouldn't be useful information, would it?
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Old 2009-10-27, 20:00   Link #218
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Maybe November 29th is the day that Asumu died, the day when she learned that she can possibly get together with Rudolf again. Note the emphasis on envy.
But Battler would have noticed it almost immediately.
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Old 2009-10-27, 20:07   Link #219
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But Battler would have noticed it almost immediately.
Not necessarily, but...

Or maybe it's the day that Battler declared himself not-an-Ushiromiya.

I could list a million obscure dates. This is no good.
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Old 2009-10-27, 20:08   Link #220
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Is it really worth wracking your mind over something Ryukishi himself stated was VERY tricky with only one piece of information to go from? =p

It's obvious it has some importance but I'd wait till we get some more information on it before making guesses on what it could mean. *nod nod*
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